Classic Brochure Page Numbering

My first brochure! Using Classic template. I have the cover finished and saved but SOMEHOW the "inside" got saved on "page 3". In other words, now when I look at my page thumbnails, I see: Page 1 (with my cover)
Page 2 (blank, other than template columns)
Page 3 (with my inside)
Page 4 (blank)
How do I merge pgs. 3 and 2? I'm not permitted to delete the blank pages alone without the their above finished product. I am not allowed to cut and paste from 3 to 2. Clear as mud???? Oy. Help, please?
Penpalee

Hi, Penpalee, Welcome to the Forum.
It sounds like an object of some sort has gotten too close to the bottom of the page and forced a new page. Perhaps you have Wrap on. If so, try either turning it off or reducing the "Extra Space" (at the bottom in the Wrap Inspector).
It might help to Show Layout and Invisibles (in the view menu) to see if that extra page contains a page or section break. If so, find the offending object and either reduce its size (or move it up a tad) or turn Wrap off if you don't need it.
Walt

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