Classic is overheating my PowerBook

I have a job to do in PageMaker, so I installed it in Classic. It started okay, but a couple minutes later my PowerBook's fan came on, faster than I've ever heard it before. A check in Activity Monitor found TrueBlueEnvironment (which I understand is Classic) using over 90% of the CPU -- and there wasn't even a document open in PageMaker, only the app. I had to quit PM to get the fan to stop. Is there any way I can limit Classic so it won't take so much CPU? This job could be done in 64MB of RAM in OS 9, with plenty to spare -- but my nice new 17" PowerBook won't boot in 9.

Classic has few adjustments. You can adjust:
• the memory for an application, or
• the memory of the Classic environment itself.
As a guess, if you're trying to run a version of PageMaker that was designed for 68K Macs instead of PPC (PowerPC) Macs, what you're seeing it may be due to transcoding. This was a technology that I believe was built into PPC versions of the Mac OS to let 68K apps run unchanged, but they would not perform well.
You've not stated what version of Mac OS 9 you are using for Classic, but I've found with Tiger one should be using Mac OS 9.2.2: there are issues that can crop up in Classic if you're using an earlier version. You can find the Mac OS 9 updates to 9.2.2 here.
Classic works best with applications designed for Mac OS 9. You'll get problematic results with Mac apps designed for earlier versions of the Mac OS.
PageMaker is a dead app: it has been for years. Time to think about getting a native Mac OS X app, like InDesign.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X

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