Classic on eMac 10.3.9

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Please advise me, I don't seem to use Classic. Is it safe to delete it to release more memory as I am running low and am experiencing freezes?
Also I cannot send a fax but it is supposed to be installed on my system but I cannot find the fax browser, please help.
Chris

It is safe to delete classic if you don't plan on using it, but that has nothing to do with the computer running slow. Deleting classic will only free up hard drive space.
You want more memory. Having only 256MB is your problem.
I would go up to 1gb and you'll notice a major speed increase.
Check Other World Computing for prices, if you are comfortable installing it yourself (really easy). Macsales.com

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Hey Joe-eMac and Welcome to Apple Discussions,
My problem is that I cannot seem to get Classic (OS9.2.2) to load on this eMAC (1 GHz, USB2).
Well according to LEM:
http://www.lowendmac.com/imacs/emac-2004-1.25-ghz.html
The eMac 1/1.25 GHz (2004) requires Mac OS X 10.3.3 or later. So the machine won't boot directly into OS 9.2.2. The USB 1.1 1GHz would.
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I'm new to posting in forums & unsure about which OS to post in.
I run a Mac computer lab at an elementary school. I need to add some licensed software that only works on OS 9. How do I do that without losing the ability to use the OS 10.3.9 & 10.2.8 programs which I mistakenly deleted before upgrading?
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My experience is mostly PC but I'm slowly learning Mac.
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Article #42929 - Using Restore Discs with Mac OS X 10.2 through 10.3..3
Article #151871 - Mac OS X 10.3: Installing Classic
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86209
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