Classic Planning applications vs PMA Applications

Hello Experts,
"For Classic Planning applications, databases are created and maintained within Planning. For
Performance Management Architect applications, applications are created in Performance
Management Architect and deployed to Planning."
Can anyone explain me, what is better to install --> Classic Planning Application or Performance Management Architect Application? Which is easier to work, what are the advantages and disadvantages? I´ve planned to install Planning 11.1.1.3.
Thanks a lot!

Here is my 2 cents.
I just did EPMA and was told by many that they aren't using it or haven't used it so didn't have much back up.
But I have to tell you I like EPMA much better that Classic planning once you get the hang of it. Also this is where Oracle is going with the product you might as well jump on the band wagon sooner rather than later (ie get used to Classic Planning then having to make the switch).
I find that Classic Planning requires a lot of clicks to get some stuff done and is a bit more streamline in EPMA.
That said EPMA still needs a lot of work. For example your Alias are kind of hidden in Dimension mode. Where I would rather the default be visible instead of having to go to alias and hit F2 to see 1 or all of them.
One of the biggest reasons I like EPMA is Calc Manager. Business Rules sucks if you have to do a lot of calc (way way too many clicks). So as soon as I saw the power of Calc Manager I will never go back to Classic planning and business rules.
Still EPMA is where things are going so you should go there first unless you find a bug then fall back to classic.
One approach people have done though is to create the environment in classic planning and migrate it to EPMA. But if you don't know classic just load direct to EPMA in my opinion.
Let's see what others say.

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