Classical Piano Sample

Anyone have an idea on the best piano sample? I use Leopard & LE8. So far the best I've heard is Ivory Italian Grand.
Also, I'd like to be able to mark my questions/replies as "solved", but see no "solved" button.
Thanks,
Charlie

Thanks for the help. I left a another message saying that I listened to the Yamaha, Bosendorfer, and Steinway that come with Logic Pro Studio. I thought the Yamaha was the best of the three only because it's the brighter. The Bosen and Yamaha tend to sound dull (lacking overtones) from the "small" octave down. (The "small" octave is the octave below middle c).
The Yamaha being brighter tends to keep more of the overtones so those lower octaves tend to have more life in the sound.
The "Italian Ivory Grand" sample I heard on the net seems superior to all 3 that come with Apple software. The amazing thing being that the price of the piano and it's "hardware key" is a little less than Logic Pro Studio.
Thanks, I'll be waiting for other replies ... and I'm happy to get any input.
Charlie

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Hi,
thanks for the explanation!
Sorry, no classical piano in Logic Express... I have to admit that the "grand piano" and "Yamaha grand piano" are quite good. But my Yamaha P80 digital piano and the Sampletank Free's "HQ piano" sound better. Too bad Sampletank free is not Intel compatible...
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