Clean Install Mavericks... Time Machine backups...

Hey,
I've been having some minor issues with the 'spinning beach ball'/system freezing up, or not even being able to boot up and having to re-install Mavericks...
So I brought it in to a Apple store, and they suggested doing a clean install... I've held off until now, I'm getting a new SSD and will be doing this clean install in a week or so. Is it possible to do a clean install in Mavericks on a new SSD and still have my Time Machine backups available?
I know the one time I changed the name of the hard drive and Time Machine didn't like that... I'm assuming I'll have to name the new drive the same as the old drive was?
I'd rather not restore as they said at the Apple store that could re-introduce the problem, so I'd like to do a clean install, then restore from backup some files/apps and my email.
Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated!

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2. HDD (Other Personal Documents).
I did Time Machine Backup in HDD partition. So now i want to do clean install from the Time Machine Backup without format the whole drive since my system not booting meant that system crashed and cant boot in anyway (Just consider ). Also I have MAC bootable USB stick.
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Having never seen a setup like that, I'm not sure how it will work.
In theory, just erase the Mac OS volume, then install, choosing to recover from a Time Machine backup.
When you boot into Recovery, open Disk Utility and select the Mac OS volume, not the whole disk. Erase it, then quit DU and restore from the Time Machine backup. However, this is the part I'm not certain of. I would imagine the partition with TM backup will be mounted, but I don't know.
If you can't see the Time Machine backup from the Recovery HD on the drive, try it from the USB Recovery stick (it is a Recovery USB and not the old Lion install USB, correct?)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4718
If you don't have a "built-in" recovery HD because of your partitioning, then you would have to boot from that USB Recovery disk.
Your setup is severely flawed. A backup on the same drive as the data is not a backup. You will lose everything with a disk failure.
Also, partitioning off your OS on a Mac is not necessary and is probably counterproductive. OS X is not Windows.

Mavericks install and Time Machine backup disk

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This disk is used for Time Machine Backups
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TM reported fail on next day backup so I open TM to see what was there. I was shocked to discover all backups gone except one following migration and in progress backup that failed. Never asked if old back ups to be deleted just disappeared.
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While in Time Machine, press the key combination shift-command-C. The front window will show all mounted volumes. All snapshots should now be accessible. Select the one you want and navigate to the files you want to restore.
If you need to restore from a backup of the hidden user Library folder, first select a snapshot, then press shift-command-G. A Go to Folder dialog will open. In it, you'll enter the path to the folder. The dialog will help you by automatically completing the parts of the path when you start to type them.
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Cannot clean install- Only time machine works

Hello!
I am currently running into aa few problems with my Macbook pro 15" mid 2009 laptop. I have had some troubles with the computer consistently beachballing, and freezing up so I decided I had enough and wanted to start from sqaure one. So I bought new Ram (corsair 2x 4gb 1066MHz), and a new hard drive (Seagate Momentus XT 500gb) and subsequently installed the two.
Now for the root of my problem- I cannnot for the lfe of me get Lion or snow leopard to install! It gets about 80% of the way and the installation will fail saying to contact the software manufacturer. Luckily I have a bootable external drive which I have used for diagnostics and I am coming up empty. Disc utility is claiming the drive is perfectly fine, and Memtest is saying the ram is fine. I was searching for a solution so I decided totry and install from a time machine backup which worked fine. Very weird.
Any ideas on what would cause my computer to reject a clean install?

You may have a hardware fault. Make a "Genius" appointment at an Apple Store to have the machine tested.

Clean Install VS Time Machine for "out of the box" performance

Hi all ^^
Just under a year a go I made the leap of PC to Mac and have never looked back, im super happy with my Mac however I have been experiancing a decrease in performance since Ive been using it, back when I was using a PC I clean installed the OS once a year and then proceeded to add my files back, thus restoring my PC to full performance.
Ive been reading around these forums looking at Time Machine backups, hoping to see 'how much' gets restored when you perform a recovery from time machine, and from what I have read is that everything gets restored. So my question is purely for some advice and clarification
"If I want to restore my Macbook to its "out of the box" performance, Is it viable for me to use a Time Machine back up?"
if not
"If Time Machine Back ups wont help restoring performance, Would it be possible to Clean Install and then extract purely the Files from my TM Back up?" I read another user had issues, the Mac recognised the files belonged to another mac and he couldent use them.
So I wont waffle on any furthur, but im looking for the easist way to clean install or restore performance to my Mac, a long term solution I can use each year
Please and Thank you
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Thankyou for your answer
Im quite a clean freak when it comes to my PC, I keep my desktop bare, things I dont use remain unloaded.etc
I think as I am without a Defrag or Disk Clean up tool I feel abit helpless to maintain optimal standards. I not very experianced with the in's and out's of computers but all I really want on my Mac are my Files, Applications and the OS, nothing more.
I appreciate your time and experiance, so ild ask instead: In your experiance is it worth performing a clean install? I have hadly any junk on my Mac, and from the tone of your post you beleive a program such as MacKeeper would be sufficent?
Futhurmore a clean install once a year isnt worth it? I depend alot on what people have told me, so I may have fallen victim to a rumour :S

Clean install, migration, time machine

I am not a MAC OSX specialist in any way, but I would like to share what I have found out the hard way about the clean install.
1) Never do this unless you are absolutely sure that you have complete back up. Time machine cannot restore to the latest backup status, it can only go back to full backups and those are not made very often. In my case it was July 29, 2012. What a surprise! . Do the vital backups by hand. I propose copying your home folder to an external disc or usb pen drive. Copy Application folder as well. Why? If you are fond of iWorks'09 and hate new versions and you do clean install your favourite software is gone. You may just as well erase your Time Machine disc and start backup from clean drive. I didn't do it.
2) Make copies of your mails.
3) If you purchased software outside AppStore make notes of serial codes. Mail backup helps.
4) When making USB drive bootable do it this way: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=18081307&postcount=3 it preserves RECOVERY partition which is needed for FIND MY MAC option and it is usefull to have it anyway. Place the USB intended for clean install directly into your MAC, don't use USB hub.
5) Migration assistant never worked for me. The reason might have been that my last full Time Machine backup was done 18 months ago, and it was 10.8... I have read quite a lot about getting restore from the Time Machine, and dwelled on the subject myself.
I can't give explanation why that happened but that is found out the hard way:
- I discoverd that long name of the user should be different than the one you used before clean install.
- After doing trial and error attempts I made short user name the same as in my user before clean install, and started it with a capital letter. Why? That gave me access to my time machine. When the I had a different short user name than stored in time machine then upon entry into time machine all the backups well dimed and going back was not possible. With the same short name the backups were accessible. The system complained that I had no permissions to access the folders. But that is possible to change. When you look up Time Machine folders in Finder, those that are restricted to you have got red circle with a white line inside. Ctrl click on the restricted folder and select Get info. Add yourself as a user that has the access and change permissions to read and write. Your Documents folder appear in every back up in Time Machine. The best it is to change the permissions in the latest backup.
At the end of the day I managed to recover my mail. Data from other programs and my old MBP is up runnning again and faster. It takes however, a lot of work to make it.
The biggest pitty is that I lost my Pages v4.3 and now don't have an option to recover it.

Are you sure its not shown? It should have a yellow or green icon, and list the name of the system and HD that was backed-up, not the one it's on.
If not, try to repair the backups, per #A5 in Time Machine - Troubleshooting.

Can I install a time machine backup after creating a fusiondrive via terminal?

Hi!
I have a Macbook Pro early 2011 with ssd and hdd. I would like to have a Fusiondrive and found a way to create it in the terminal. Do I have to reinstall Lion again or can I use my latest backup which I made from ssd and hdd? there are no further partitions except bootcamp.
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You should reinstall OS X and then, restore the Time Machine backup using Setup Assistant. That's because Fusion Drive is created by software, and if you restore the whole Time Machine backup, you will disable Fusion Drive.
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New install, old time machine backup?

I have a 2009 Mac Pro, original HD still inside, Mavericks installed. I just installed Yosemite on a new internal drive. The Mavs time machine backup is on a 3rd internal drive.
My question: how can I get the new Yosemite installation to utilize my estalbished Time Machine backup, and carry forward?
thank you!
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There is a way to force the backup history to be inherited, but I consider it too complicated for most users to carry out, and it won't do any good if you've already started using Time Machine with the new setup. If you're familiar with the shell and want to try it, search the tmutil(8) manual page for the terms "inheritbackup" and "associatedisk."
Otherwise I suggest you set the backup drive aside and stop using it until you're sure you'll no longer need the data. Then erase it and start over. Meanwhile, start a new backup on another drive. You need more than one backup to be safe anyway.

Migration Assistant or Install From Time Machine Backup?

Hi,
I have a question. I currently have an older iMac and I'm thinking of buying a new iMac. I'd like to transfer EVERYTHING on my old iMac to my new iMac, so that the new iMac is identical in terms of Applications installed, Mail, Documents, Dashboard setup, etc.
Which is the best technique to use to do this? Migration Assistant or installing OS X from your Time Machine Backups? Why is one better than the other? Really, I want the cleanest, most accurate solution, so that nothing is lost, and so I can continue on from where I left off.

Reuben Feffer wrote:
what if I have an expensive piece of software installed on my old iMac? Will Migration Assistant copy that over to my new iMac, without messing up the number of activations?
Yes, but depending on which you may need to deactivate and re-activate. This question would be better put to the software vendor. I am guessing Quark?
Reuben Feffer wrote:
And what about things like the way I've customised my Desktop, icon sizes, and such. Will they automatically be copied over to the new iMac, or will I have to start again from scratch?
Not to worry, all your settings will be brought over. It will be identical to your old Mac.
Read this on Migration Manager. for a fuller understanding.
-mj
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Can i downgrade from Yosemite to Mavericks by using Mavericks Time Machine Backup?

Hey guys! Well I am in the position of needing to buy a new Mac, but I need it to be on Mavericks due to programs that I run and stability issues. I would love to get one of the new mac minis, but am aware that they ship with OS X Yosemite. Is it true that I can downgrade to Mavericks by restoring the new mac mini from a Time Machine backup that was done on Mavericks? I have heard that this will work but wanted to make sure before I move forward.
Just to be clear, I would take a Mac Mini that has Yosemite on it and restore it from a Time Machine backup that was done from my old Mac (Mac Book Pro 17") that was on the latest version of Mavericks.
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There should be a hidden Recovery HD on your Time Machine backup drive. Boot using OPTION booting:
Boot Using OPTION key:
1. Restart the computer.
2. Immediately after the chime press and hold down the
"OPTION" key.
3. Release the key when the boot manager appears.
4. Select the icon labeled Recovery HD 10.10.
5. Click on the arrow button below the icon.
Then do this:
Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
After DU loads select the volume you wish to erase from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
Quit Disk Utility and return to the Main Menu.
Select Restore from a Time Machine backup and click on the Continue button.

Combine fresh system install and Time Machine Backup

Hi all !
There´s a question that´s more generally Leopard and Snow Leopard related:
In trying to find causes of a system slowdown I decided to go for a complete fresh system install. BUT I also want to use my data saved in the time machine backup without spoiling the freshly created system folder.
I also want to update the system to the current OS version before restoring from BU.
Is there a way to keep the fresh system folder deriving from a fresh installation and just replace the rest of the data (that´s not present yet) with the time machine backup ?
I think the handy command "Restore System from Backup" from the OSX system installer wouldnt be a good idea. It would copy ALL the files from the backup, and would overwrite my fresh system folder, so that I´ll end up with the same old, probably faulty system.
Could the migration tool do the job ?
Thanks for your knowledge !

habschi2 wrote:
In trying to find causes of a system slowdown I decided to go for a complete fresh system install. BUT I also want to use my data saved in the time machine >backup without spoiling the freshly created system folder.
You should be able to migrate, for example, just your data using TM. But, TM is a bit unpredictable. Why not make a bootable clone of your internal on an external. It would serve fail-safe purposes, migrations purposes, and data-backup purposes. At the end of your install, you could, as groups only, migrate your data, users, settings, and apps--using your discretion. I would migrate only my data and my settings.
Is there a way to keep the fresh system folder deriving from a fresh installation and just replace the rest of the data (that´s not present yet) with >the time machine backup ?
See above.
I think the handy command "Restore System from Backup" from the OSX system installer wouldnt be a good idea. It would copy ALL the files from the backup, and would overwrite my fresh system folder, so that I´ll end up with the same >old, probably faulty system.
Absolutely correct.
Could the migration tool do the job ?
You can use Migration Assistant with TM, but I have never done so. So, I can't advise. The clone I mentioned takes care of all you issues in a very straight forward manner without dealing with the confusion of TM and MA that can arise.
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Hard Drive Erase, Clean Install and Time Machine

I am currently running OS X 10.10.3 and I want to do a clean install. All my content is backed up with Time Machine via external drive.
First, how do I erase my hard drive and install a fresh version of OS X 10.10.3?
Second, is it better to use a USB drive for the clean install or just you the Recovery Mode?
Last, once i finally have a clean installation of OS X 10.10.3, am i able to access my external drive via time machine to bring back some of my old files...i have read that the folder in the external drive is not accessible and not accessible through time machine.
I appreciate the response and guidance!

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All of these are good questions to have when erasing and installing OS X Yosemite. To answer your first question you would need to boot to either your Recovery HD or through the Recovery USB and follow the steps in the first article below. Either option will get the task accomplished and will install OS X Yosemite. For your final question about restoring from a Time Machine back up, you will see the option to restore when going through the setup process of your Mac. Let me know if the information below is of help or need further assistance.
OS X Yosemite: Erase and reinstall OS X
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18869
OS X: About Recovery Disk Assistant
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202294
OS X Yosemite: Recover your entire system
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH18848
Take it easy,
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After installing mavericks time machine no longer visible in finder. how can I get back to see it?

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1. I have got a 2010 MacBook Pro with a 320 Gb HDD which seems to be on its way to lala land (crashes almost once every quarter year)
2. I have backed up my Mac with TimeMachine to uptodate
3. I have created a boot disk and purchased a new 1 Tb HDD to be installed
4. I plan to install new HDD in a bit
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Shall I make a clean install of Mavericks (and if so, how do I get all my e-mail and other data onto the new HDD), or should I just go with the latest TimeMachine update?
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