Clear Cmos or other first

I have an 845PE Max2 Fir 2.53 proc. 2- 512 sticks Corsair 3200 ram. No oc just high performance setting by spd. When starting computer I get only the first screen then it stops ( the screen with MSI logo and with the option to enter bios ) tried delete and tab keys = nothing it just stops. If I use the restart button or ctl alt del it starts ok and everything seems to work ok. ( D bracket says initializing floppy drive controller when it stops - one red light at top right corner. ) This problem just started. System assembled 1 year ago and has always worked fine until now. I checked floppy controller in device manager and it says no problems. Is there anything to do before clearing cmos. Although I need to get into bios regardless. Just thought there may be something to do first. Thanks for any suggestions.
Den

Assaf that was an excelent response. It made me remember when a printer I had on another comp. caused the same thing by having it on before starting the computer. It also made me remember that my scanner on this comp. was left on and had been since this has been happening. I turned off the scanner and comp. waited a couple of hours then turned it back on and everything works fine again. No problems using the scanner just don't have it on before startup. Thanks
Den

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What BIOS Version are you using?
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Clear CMOS ?

hello,
i'm gonna boot my pc for the first time, but not everything is installed yet, the hard drive, floppy drive and CD-RW aren't installed yet... . But still this is a very important first boot, because this way you can check the CPU and memory and graphics card, if they are installed properly and have them excluded for future troubles. my question is:
shoul i clear the CMOS (using hte onboard jumper) before booting it for the first time ? just to be sure there won't be any unlogical settings...with the consequensce that it won't boot...so clearing CMOS should be the right thing to do, right ?
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Hi hypetraxx,
No harm doing so Go ahead and clear 1st before installing anything as this is just a play safe method, in case your mobo have not got it cleared, but situations like this are uniquely rare
I usually don't bother to clear it before installing anything... :P but hey... everything still gets installed and works out fine and rock stable... :D!!!
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I just switched GPU from 2x 7950 to 980.
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Tryreplacing battery. Also could try to run it with single Ram stick and outside of the case.
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G33M-FI Fails to POST without clearing CMOS

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I purchased a new system with a G33M-FI mainboard in December. Everything worked great on the first boot, but the first time I restarted it failed to POST. I had to clear CMOS settings using the jumper. On the next boot I updated the BIOS to 1.2, restarted multiple times and everything worked fine for a while...
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Clearing cmos

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my K7T266 PRO (ms-6380) went dead after installing a new cpu; four red led's are shown and the old and new cpu won't do a thing... I understand by clearing the cmos there would be a chance that everything will work again. I read the user's manual and understand how to clear cmos but I don't know what this mean. Can anyone tell me about it ? Which information will be deleted ? ?(

look again into your manual,
just at the first pages with the layouts of YOUR board.
i have a k7t266 pro2 and the jumper is under the battery and above the sys-fan-header.
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shut down Windows/system,
turn off the mainpower switch (behind the power supply),
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put the jumper back to his ORIGINAL position.
(jumper will cover the 2nd and the 3rd pin)
then turn on the mainpower switch and power on your system.
PLEASE look into the manual FIRST!
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choose the option to go to the BIOS, because you will have to set up the settings for cpu and RAM, AGP etc...

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Hey Guys,
I’ve checked the MSI manual and I’ve taken a look at the sticky/FAQ’s over here in the forum as well, and I wasn’t really able to find instructions on how to properly clear the CMOS (after a BIOS flash).
So first of all what’s the correct way to clear the CMOS?
1. Should I leave the power cord connected to the PSU and then press the “clear CMOS button” while the battery is still in the motherboard?
2. OR should the power cord be detached from the PSU and the motherboard battery removed and then should I press the “clear CMOS button”? (And if so, for how long should the batter be removed before connecting it back to the motherboard?)
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So should I turn off the machine right after the BIOS flash and then clear the CMOS… or should I reboot the machine right after the flash and then clear CMOS ?
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Quote from: Brownbay on 18-June-05, 01:28:24
1. When I enter the flash command in DOS and the flash program completes the flash... will it say something like "flash successful" OR the only way I’ll know if the flash was successful is if after the flash I reboot and the machine posts?
You will have a message like 'Hit F1 to reboot' in principle all is well...
Quote from: Brownbay on 18-June-05, 01:28:24
2. I understood everything in the steps that you listed up until step 4. Should I press the orange "clear CMOS" button first (Now do I have to hold it down... press it a few times... or just press it once) and THEN remove the battery... OR should the battery stay in at all times?
While you press the button the battery must stay in it's place, it's is voltage that will clear the BIOS in a certain pin of the IC...
As for the time to press...could be 1..2..3 seconds, no time defined, as soon as you press the button the Bios is cleared...but give it 3 secs.
And it's not necessary to remove the battery at this point only in extreme cases.
Quote from: Brownbay on 18-June-05, 01:28:24
Finally, is it actually beneficial to clear the CMOS after flashing the BIOS? From what I’ve read... One of the main reasons to clear the CMOS after flashing to a new BIOS is so that you get rid of all the old BIOS options/commands that might be still lying around. So I can only see this as a good precautionary step rather than doing any harm to the motherboard, or causing the risk there of.
It is highly beneficial to clear the Bios after an update, because some settings could be somewhat out of place and mess up your discs or memory or even the processor...one never knows...it is always better to clear for ensurance.
Be well....

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Should I attempt to copy the entire C drive to the E drive....?????
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no have socket for jumper/clear cmos ?

Quote from: pegadroid on 13-August-14, 18:37:12
ok. thank you all. now I'm not confused, I think its socket to clear cmos lost
If you mean the jumper no it did not come with one, nothing was lost. Older MBs had 3 pins for JBAT1 and came with a jumper and it was stored plugged into pins 1-2 and to clear CMOS it was moved to clear pins 2-3 and then moved back to the store position pins 1-2.

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