Clear Settings Anomaly in ACR 7.1rc

First, a bug: when you click Clear Settings in ACR 7.1rc (Mac version, at least), the Edit menu highlighting stays on after the operation is complete.
Second, Clear Settings in ACR 7, when applied to DNGs that have had settings made in earlier versions of ACR, are not cleared. Only the additional settings made in ACR 7 are cleared.
This latter may be intended. But, if so, it would be useful to have an additional menu item that Clears All Settings.
Edit: Indeed, I notice that several items leave the menu highlights stuck on. For instance, if one looks at the Camera Raw Preferences, the Adobe Bridge CS6 menu item remains highlighted even after you dismiss the preference pane.
Edit_2: The Clear Settings now seems to be working. I guess, perhaps, it took Bridge some time to update its cache. It certainly wasn't working right after installation.
But the various menu highlights still do not turn off when they should, as reported above.
It seems the menu on/off logic needs a rather general cleaning up.
grampus45

None of the issues reported on this forum have been fixed in Camera Raw 7.1, near as I can see.
The Camera Raw 7.1 software was built on May 15, but Adobe appears to ignore beta feedback unless it's a real show-stopper. I can only imagine the definition of "show-stopper" must include users' systems actually catching fire or something.
Camera Raw 7.1 puts columnar color artifacts like this into images, for example:
Compare the above to the same conversion done with Camera Raw 7.0:
Plus Adobe has removed several color-fringing reduction features without providing suitable substitutes.
I recommend eveyone avoid upgrading to this release.
-Noel

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Clear Settings does not delete .xmp sidecars

Using latest CR 6.4, Bridge 4.0.4.2 & Ps 12.0.4
Posting here because most knowledgeable folks here rarely if ever seem to visit the Bridge forum anymore. And it does relate to CR settings.
In Bridge, if you choose Develop Settings/Clear settings, the settings are indeed cleared but the sidecar files remain, even if you refresh the Windows folder and/or close and reopen both Bridge and Ps. Additionally, even if you manually delete the sidecars, the size of the exported cache file Bridge.T is not reduced but remains the same.
Anyone else noticed this?

Andrew_Hart wrote:
…In Bridge, if you choose Develop Settings/Clear settings, the settings are indeed cleared but the sidecar files remain…
That has always been the case, and it's perfectly normal, expected behavior.
Your mistake is assuming that the xmp file would contain only ACR edit information. That is just not the case.
Here's an example of the kind of information retained in an xmp file in CS4 after clearing the develop settings in Bridge. This should make it clear to you why the xmp file must remain after clearing the ACR development settings rather than having to be built from scratch all over again next time you open the file:
<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 4.2-c020 1.124078, Tue Sep 11 2007 23:21:40        ">
<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:tiff="http://ns.adobe.com/tiff/1.0/">
   <tiff:Make>PENTAX</tiff:Make>
   <tiff:Model>PENTAX K20D</tiff:Model>
   <tiff:Orientation>1</tiff:Orientation>
</rdf:Description>
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:exif="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/">
   <exif:ExifVersion>0221</exif:ExifVersion>
   <exif:ExposureTime>1/160</exif:ExposureTime>
   <exif:ShutterSpeedValue>7321928/1000000</exif:ShutterSpeedValue>
   <exif:FNumber>8/1</exif:FNumber>
   <exif:ApertureValue>6/1</exif:ApertureValue>
   <exif:ExposureProgram>0</exif:ExposureProgram>
   <exif:DateTimeOriginal>2010-02-10T18:29:45-08:00</exif:DateTimeOriginal>
   <exif:DateTimeDigitized>2010-02-10T18:29:45-08:00</exif:DateTimeDigitized>
   <exif:ExposureBiasValue>20/10</exif:ExposureBiasValue>
   <exif:MeteringMode>5</exif:MeteringMode>
   <exif:FocalLength>1900/100</exif:FocalLength>
   <exif:SensingMethod>2</exif:SensingMethod>
   <exif:FocalLengthIn35mmFilm>28</exif:FocalLengthIn35mmFilm>
   <exif:CustomRendered>0</exif:CustomRendered>
   <exif:ExposureMode>1</exif:ExposureMode>
   <exif:WhiteBalance>0</exif:WhiteBalance>
   <exif:SceneCaptureType>0</exif:SceneCaptureType>
   <exif:Contrast>2</exif:Contrast>
   <exif:Saturation>0</exif:Saturation>
   <exif:Sharpness>2</exif:Sharpness>
   <exif:SubjectDistanceRange>3</exif:SubjectDistanceRange>
   <exif:ISOSpeedRatings>
    <rdf:Seq>
     <rdf:li>800</rdf:li>
    </rdf:Seq>
   </exif:ISOSpeedRatings>
   <exif:Flash rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <exif:Fired>True</exif:Fired>
    <exif:Return>0</exif:Return>
    <exif:Mode>1</exif:Mode>
    <exif:Function>False</exif:Function>
    <exif:RedEyeMode>False</exif:RedEyeMode>
   </exif:Flash>
</rdf:Description>
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:xap="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/">
   <xap:ModifyDate>2010-02-10T18:29:45-08:00</xap:ModifyDate>
   <xap:CreateDate>2010-02-10T18:29:45-08:00</xap:CreateDate>
   <xap:CreatorTool>K20D Ver 1.03</xap:CreatorTool>
   <xap:Rating>0</xap:Rating>
</rdf:Description>
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:aux="http://ns.adobe.com/exif/1.0/aux/">
   <aux:LensInfo>160/10 450/10 40/10 40/10</aux:LensInfo>
   <aux:Lens>smc PENTAX-DA 16-45mm F4 ED AL</aux:Lens>
   <aux:LensID>4 254</aux:LensID>
</rdf:Description>
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/">
   <crs:RawFileName>_IMG0187.PEF</crs:RawFileName>
   <crs:Version>5.7</crs:Version>
   <crs:ProcessVersion>5.0</crs:ProcessVersion>
   <crs:HasSettings>False</crs:HasSettings>
   <crs:HasCrop>False</crs:HasCrop>
   <crs:AlreadyApplied>False</crs:AlreadyApplied>
</rdf:Description>
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
    xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/">
   <photoshop:SidecarForExtension>PEF</photoshop:SidecarForExtension>
</rdf:Description>
</rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
Note the creation date: <exif:DateTimeOriginal>2010-02-10T18:29:45-08:00</exif:DateTimeOrigin al>. Yet, I just cleared the Develop Settings in the last few minutes.
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Clear settings on 7911

How do I clear all settings to include network settings on a 7911? What information can't be cleared with this process? We are trying to use a phone for a sensitive and non-sensitive network. We need to be able to clear the phone before switching and can't have any left over info.
Thanks

In IP Phone try with network setting and search for erase soft key, press the IP Phone get erase with old IP Address, best is power on/off.
This URL should help you:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_user_guide_list.html#anchor20

Clearing the Brush in ACR

One of the things I don't like is that when invoking the brush, there is no way short of going over all the settings returning them to -0- by hand. I at first thought the clear button did that but it only clears the image. Am I missing something? If not Please add a Clear All Settings button.

Wow! I just checked Graduated filter and things get worse. Whatever one sets in Brushes carries over to Graduated Filter as well.
Try this: Set the controls in Brushes to some set of values, then switch to Graduated Filter. The values carry over. So what happens if you switch from Brushes to Graduated Filter and reset those to default? Does the settings in Brushes go to zero and cancel out what you have just done there? No, the changes made in the image remain, but what your numbers were does not. They are set to Default.So now you want to go back and tweak the brushes and you get to start over again using the Clear all button. In the mean time, you also messed up the Graduated Filter settings.
Instant Insanity!
Guys! Please! Separate the two completely. Give a Default for each as a button and be done with it.

Clearing Settings.

Hi
Would anyone be so kind as to explain how I may be able to clear saved settings from my 'Develop Settings Bank'? In Camera Raw I can save my settings to be used again in Bridge by right clicking on an image and choosing develop settings and choosing my saved settings. When new to Camera Raw I experimented with (now) needless settings and I wish to clear them.
Any explanation would be gratefully received. Many thanks
Carl

Thank you for your response - appreciated!
I still cannot seem to delete them from the preset tab. I did however manage to delete them from in the Windows application data.

ACR 6.1RC Presets

Hi,
I tend to use a set of presets as a starting point for capture sharpening in ACR (one for portrait, one for landscape etc). When I saved these only the sharpening box was ticked - so that they only affect the sharpening and do not alter any other ACR parameters. However in ACR6.1 when I apply one of these presets, the sliders on the "basic" tab i.e. exposure; brightness etc all return to their default value instead of remaing unaltered. This is annoying as I tend to work left to right along the tabs.
I have tried recreating one of these presets in ACR6.1 and the effect is just the same.
Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?
(In case it makes a difference, I am using ACR6.1 in CS5 on a windows Vista 32 bit system).
Dave

Thanks Jeff.
From your answer it sounds like it's already been spotted :-)
If not, do I need to report it anywhere specific for 6.1 or just on this forum?
Dave

Reverting to original RAW image in ACR

In the past I have almost always used Nikon's Capture NX2 as my RAW editor. In that, it's immediately obvious how to get back to the original NEF camera image, or even choose to go back to different stages in the editing history.
There seems no obvious way to do this in ACR. For example I made a mistake in a RAW edit, but when I reopened the RAW image again from Bridge I got the edited version with the unwanted error.
I would appreciate some guidance on this. In an ideal world, I would like ACR to do what Nikon Capture can do.
I have also just found that, when trying to assign a keyword to this file in Bridge, I got got an "...error writing metadata" message. All the other NEF files in that folder (none of which have yet been edited in ACR) accepted the keywords with no problems.
Since writing the above, I have found that this "error writing metadata" is a common issue for which there seems no solution - it extends back to earlier versions of Bridge (I have CS6 64-bit with vety latest updates).
I have deleted the sidecar file for the file in question, but the error remains.
I cannot help being a little concerned about what ACR actually does to the file. Maybe I'll go back to Capture NX2 (not without its own problems) unless there are some solutions to these issues.

There are several ways to go back/edit history.
In Bridge, select the photo you edited in ACR. You can see the Edited symbol above the photo upper right.
Go to Edit menu, Develop Settings, Clear Settings.
In ACR you can also make Snapshots of different times in your editing session.
Go the Snapshot tab (the rightmost tab) in ACR. Click the New Snapshot icon in the bottom right and name the snapshop. You then can go back to a previous edit by simply clicking its tab. The caveat is that you need to manually add these Snapshots as you go along.
You can also go back to an earlier edit and Open the Image in Photoshop while still retaining the later edit shapshots in ACR
Lighroom has a real time history that you can go back to a previous edit. This history is automatic. I'm not sure if the history is retained after the file is closed and then reopened. I tend to think not, but you can also create Snapshots in Lightroom.

How do you stop DNG Converter from embedding Adobe's ACR default settings instead of custom settings?

I notice that the new version of Adobe DNG Converter (8.6, and maybe earlier) appears to place Adobe's ACR defaults in the converted file. Thus, the converted files open up in Bridge with an indication that they already have settings made, and, hence, ACR does not apply the custom camera settings. One has to Clear Settings first in Bridge, then open in ACR.
This behavior is new, perhaps to 8.6. But it's presence defeats the purpose of having custom Camera Defaults.
Is there any way to prevent DNG Converter from installing settings?

ssprengel wrote:
What do you mean by “custom camera settings”? Do you mean you’ve changed the Camera Raw defaults for a particular camera and those aren’t being seen until you do a Reset? Or do you mean some sort of Nikon-settings that Adobe never looks at?
Also at what point in the workflow are you converting these files, just after copying them to your hard-disk and before touching them with any other Adobe software, or after they’ve been adjusted in Nikon software, or after they’ve been adjusted in Bridge/ACR, initially as NEFs?
I mean my custom camera defaults that are set by the Save New Camera Defaults for a given camera.
My workflow is to take my original raw files first into Adobe DNG Converter. I then open the folder in Bridge. At this point I notice that my original raw files remain unaltered (there is no "settings" icon in the top right corner – circle with two lines and up-arrows – in the image's thumbnail), but the converted dng's (otherwise untouched and unopened in ACR) have a "settings" icon. When I open the original raw file in ACR, it opens using my custom camera defaults. When I open the otherwise virgin dng in ACR, it opens using the Adobe defaults (the same defaults that would be employed if no custom camera default had been set).
This behavior is new. DNGs formed by earlier versions of the DNG Converter did not apply any settings to the converted file, and when they opened in Bridge, they were given the custom camera settings.
In order to retain the old (and proper) behavior, I now have to take the just-converted documents into Bridge, select them, and immediately apply Develop Settings/Clear Settings. That gets rid of the settings that have been installed by the DNG Converter (as well as the "settings" icon on the thumbnail).
I notice there is a new feature in Adobe DNG Converter 8.6, namely, a panel-specific toggle between the settings and the default settings. This indicates to me the likelihood that Adobe has been making some alterations with the settings that is having unintended consequences. It clearly is not proper for DNG Converter to be adding (installing) settings, because that prevents the custom camera default settings from being applied, and hence defeats the purpose of the custom camera default settings.

ACR settings help-recovery

I am currently using ACR 7.4. The recovery slide did not show up. Customer Service told me to switch to 2012 in my settings. They also told me-sort of rudely-that this is a question for the forum-um yeah-I'm new to this....so anyway-I don't even know how to find my settings. When I open a picture out of Bridge, it immediately opens into ACR. From what I can see, there is no place to open up your settings once in ACR. I'm on a MAC, so I checked under my applications, but I don't see anything for ACR. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Ask in the PS/ ACR forums.
Mylenium

Exporting / Copying settings from ACR Smart Object

How do I export the RAW processing settings from an ACR Smart Object in Photoshop?
If I use Save Settings it only allows exporting a subset of the settings (no spot removal and local adjustments).
If I use Export Settings to XMP it doesn't seem to do anything.
The only way I've found to do it is to Save Image (from the Smart Object in ACR), save as a DNG, then use ExifTool to extract the XMP. Surely there must be an easier way?

I ABSOLUTELY agree...... That's exactly, I believe, how it's SUPPOSED to work.
Except that mine didn't.
I opened a 12.2 MP RAW file.
And made absolutely no changes to the workflow uptions at the time of opening.
But instead of "Image Sizing" saying "Default 12.2 MP", it said "3.6MP"
Resize was turned OFF
Width was 2321 px and height was 1824 px, BOTH GRAYED OUT.
Upon leaving ACR, I had a 2321x1824 file.
Eventually, after wasting another hour screwing around with it, I finally blew away all of Bridge AND the preferences and all that,
and rebooted since the %$#)(*& Adobe CC thing wouldn't figure out there was no more Bridge, and resintalled...........
Now, when I open a file in there, at LEAST it knows it's 12.2MP.
It STILL wants to change the Space to sRGB, which I NEVER use from here, and the Depth to 8-bit, which again, I never use in ACR,
but I can set those back to what they should be...
So, in this case, by using a large enough bludgeon, I appear to have gotten around the problem. Now I'm just waiting to see how soon it screws up again.

'creative colour suite settings' not enabled. Cant match Bridge / ACR colour profile to PS Colour se

Hi, i need some help if possible from anyone using CS4 on a Mac. I just switched to an IMac and downloaded the trial version of CS4. I am going to buy it i think but i am having trouble with colour space.
In PS i have changed the colour settings to reflect what my lab requires and that is working fine. But in Bridge i cannot access the 'creative suite colour settings' so that my pics coming out out of ACR into PS don't have the same colour space. I get a message saying the
'document has an embedded colour profile that does not match the current RGB working space.
embedded rgb 1998
working srgb IEC blah blah blah
In CS3 on my PC i think i remember changing both and i don't have any issue. I am getting really confused. Any advice would be appreciated :)

Did you download the whole suite or just Photoshop?
However, that's not the problem here. The issue is your settings in the ACR Output Options. Whatever you set there will be the color space used by ACR to open the image. To access the ACR Output Options, click on the blue underlined link right under the preview dialog box on ACR.

ACR 7.1 Release Candidate Problem

I just installed ACR 7.1 RC on a Windows 7 Professional 64 bit system and identified an issue relative to how ACR 7.0 works. When I select an image that was initially converted using PV2010 (CS5) and click on the "!" on the image to change it to PV2012, make a few adjustments in the Basic panel and then click on the "3 ---" and select "image settings" it changes back to PV2010 with all the settings, but if I then click on the "3---" again to switch back to PV2012 with the settings I made it's already setting in "Custom Settings" and you can't switch between PV2010 and PV2012 using this approach.
If you have any other panel than "Basic" selected it allows you to switch between PV2010 and PV2012 by selecting "Image Settings" or "Custom Settings". You can also switch between PV2010 and PV2012 in the "Basic" panel using this approach if you don't make any changes to the initial PV2012 slider settings.
ACR 7 does not have this characteristic.
Any comments?

I have returned to ACR 7.0 and it does not have the issue described above for ACR 7.1 RC. I am reprocessing images that were already processed with PV2010 and switch between PV2010 version and PV2012 version using the "Image Settings" and "Custom Settings" . I can do this in ACR 7.0 while in the Basic Panel, but not in ACR 7.1RC. In ACR 7.1RC I have to switch to something other than the Basic Panel before I switch between PV2012 and PV2010 using "Image Settings" and "Custom Settings", but after I do this one time for an image I can then do this in the Basic Panel.
This bug needs fixing before the production release.

ACR 7.1 RC Issue Not Fixed in ACR 7.1

The issue I identified in ACR 7.1RC is not fixed in the production release of ACR 7.1. Maybe I did not explain this in enough detail, it's very easy to miss.
1. Select a RAW file that was previously adjusted using PV2010. When you open the file with ACR 7.1 it will open with PV2010 since the xmp file was saved with that process version.
2. Click on the "!" next to the image and it changes to PV2012 with suggested slider settings. Adjust one of the sliders in the Basic Panel - this is very important becasue if you don't adjust a slider the issue does not show up.
3. With the Basic Panel still selected, click on the three dashes to the right of the Basic Panel to get the pop down menu and select "Image Settings". The image changes back to PV2010 with settings that are saved in the XMP file. Now click on the three dashed again to get the pop down menu and "Custom Settings" is checked, but the image is displaying PV2010, not PV2012 like it should if "Custom Settings" is checked. You just lost your PV2012 settings. ACR 7.0 does not have this issue.
4. If in #3 above you select another panel before you click "Image Setting" the first time you can switch between PV2010 and PV2012 by clicking "Image Settings" for PV2010 and "Custom Settings" for PV2012. After you do this first in a panel other than the Basic Panel for the first time you can then do it in the Basic Panel without the problem occuring.
I discovered this while converting images that were adjusted using PV2010 to PV2012 and like to compare the two Process Versions. I did not have any problems with ACR 7.0, but when I installed ACR 7.1RC the issue occured. I was hoping it would be resolved in the Production Release of ACR 7.1, but it's still there.
I am using Photoshop CS6 on a Windows 7 Professional 64 bit computer, don't know if this same issue exists in Lightroom.

None of the issues reported on this forum have been fixed in Camera Raw 7.1, near as I can see.
The Camera Raw 7.1 software was built on May 15, but Adobe appears to ignore beta feedback unless it's a real show-stopper. I can only imagine the definition of "show-stopper" must include users' systems actually catching fire or something.
Camera Raw 7.1 puts columnar color artifacts like this into images, for example:
Compare the above to the same conversion done with Camera Raw 7.0:
Plus Adobe has removed several color-fringing reduction features without providing suitable substitutes.
I recommend eveyone avoid upgrading to this release.
-Noel

Bridge 2.1.1.9 stopped showing ACR edits/crops in thumb and preview

Bridge has started having a new problem, intermittently but frequently, in that it will not consistently show the ACR edits when it displays thumbnails or previews.
Specific example I am looking at now. Raw Nikon D300 NEF, open in ACR, crop and adjust various settings, hit "DONE". Return to bridge, and after a couple seconds it shows the edits. All as expected.
A few minutes (or seconds or hours) later, the edits disappear from bridge, from either the preview, the thumbnail, or (usually) both, and the display reverts to the original NEF.
If I open it again in ACR the edits are there, remembered, correct.
Stranger still, if I scroll the thumbnails so that the selected image is not visible, then scroll back, for about 2 seconds the correct edited, cropped thumbnail appears, then it flicks back to the unedited NEF. the preview does not change (and is wrong).
I have cleared this cache, cleared the entire cache - no impact. I have deleted the XMP and started over, it works for a bit, then may come back, or moves to some other picture (some are working correctly, some not).
It DOES show the little crop/edit symbol above the thumbnail, it is just not using it.
And it is not consistent, I have two shots in the same directory. One is showing a correct thumbnail and when I click on it then un-corrected preview. One is showing neither one correct.
Even weirder, the one with the incorrect preview, if I use the magnifier, it shows the correct version (i.e. post ACR) while the unmagnified version is the original NEF.
I've tried high-quality preview, and not.
I've tried software rendering and not.
I have rebooted and checked and all updates are applied.
This has just started happening, I have hundreds of prior D300 shots that worked fine, just the last couple of days. And it works fine for SOME shots now, just not all (I'd say about 50/50 of new shots). Except so far I have not seen it happen for any prior NEF's, just the ones I have downloaded in the last few days. And I have updated nothing on the system, at least not knowingly (Adobe stuff sometimes updates automatically, but I noticed nothing).
Any ideas?
Anyone else see similar problems?

Stacy, I have found from experence that sometimes we are not seeing the same things, or understanding the same words. So don't intend to put down your skills but try this and see if we are on the same page. I don't have CS4, just CS3 so my pictue may be a little different. Am using NEF from Dx40 camera.
When image opened in ACR with double click, or right click, across the bottom of the ACR screen I have the following options; save image, open image, cancel, done, no OK option.
Doing edits and clicking Done saves the edits. Save image has option to save in different formats.
Copy one of your NEF images to a test folder. Then go to Edit/develop settings/ clear settings. This will delete all edits. Delete the XMP file. Then do an drastic edit in ACR, like changing exposrue to make it very dark, click Done.
When you go back to bridge and click on NEF image the Preview Panel should show the edits. I can not see edits in my thumb as I use Quick thumbnails.
Waht do you see in preview window? The original or an edited NEF? Do you have a circle symbool in the upper right hand corner of thumb indicating an edit?

ACR 6.1 Release Candidate causing hangup in CS5

I'm running Windows 7 and Photoshop CS5. I've been using the program with ACR 6.0 for about 2 weeks with no problems. I installed AC 6.1 Release Candidate tonight and opened a Canon raw file from a 7D. I did all of my adjustments in Camera Raw and then opened the file in photoshop. When I try to save the file the program goes into a loop and hangs up, basically locking photoshop up and making me have to shut down the computer to reboot it. After the reboot, I went back into the same file again with the same results.
How do I uninstall 6.1 and go back to 6.0?

I have returned to ACR 7.0 and it does not have the issue described above for ACR 7.1 RC. I am reprocessing images that were already processed with PV2010 and switch between PV2010 version and PV2012 version using the "Image Settings" and "Custom Settings" . I can do this in ACR 7.0 while in the Basic Panel, but not in ACR 7.1RC. In ACR 7.1RC I have to switch to something other than the Basic Panel before I switch between PV2012 and PV2010 using "Image Settings" and "Custom Settings", but after I do this one time for an image I can then do this in the Basic Panel.
This bug needs fixing before the production release.

Clear Settings Anomaly in ACR 7.1rc

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