Client Copy Export/Import on large system. 1.5 TB

Hi,
We have a 3 tier landscape. DEV, TST, PRD.
Database size in PRD is 1.5 TB (1500 GB)
Our developers need fresh master and trans data in TST and DEV.
We are thinking about making a
PRD --> TST (1.5 TB) we do a system copy.
TST --> DEV (1.5 TB) we can't do a system copy. (Company policy says not to touch repository objects, version management what so ever in DEV....)
1. How long will a client export / import take from TST --> DEV, lets say we have "good HW" ? Will it work ?
2. I've read about TDMS but its toooo expensive.....is there maybe any 3 party tool that is good for this purpose ? Transfering 1.5 TB of data ...
Br,
Martin

Hi,
>1. How long will a client export / import take from TST --> DEV, lets say we have "good HW" ? Will it >work ?
In my opinion, a 1.5 TB database is much too big for a client copy.
It will work but may last a full week and would degrade the production system performance.
We have 1.3 TB databases and stopped using client copies since the system was 300 GB...
We only use database restores and renaming for system refresh even for the dev system.
There is procedure to keep the versionning of sources.
Regards,
Olivier

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