Client dependant/independant

Hello All,
Can anybody please tell me, Configuration and Desing in Integration Builder is client dependant or independant?
Thanks.

Hi Kinnari,
I complety mistook ur question. IR and ID are based on Java Stack.
lets say you are doing Xi development on XI Client 10. Add you want to access interface definitions in Client 20 on the same machine. then you can. all the clients on the same machine will have access to every thing. say if you go to tcode: sproxy in client 20 , you can see all the interfaces defined in client 10.
so for testing you dont have to transport anything between clients.
Naveen

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Client dependent vs client independent

Hi,
CASE-1 :
there are two clients using one Application
Server .
q1) Are scripts and smartforms client-dependent/independent.
CASE-2 :
There are two clients using different Application Servers
q1) Are scripts and smartforms client-dependent/independent.
if smartforms are client independent so why am not able to see it
from dev to qat without trasporting smartform.
as we know smart forms are client independent so under what condition i can see my smartforms in another client without transporting to other client.
please help me out.

Scripts are always client dependant and Smart forms are
client independant.
You will be able to see your smartforms in all the clients in the same application server.
For examples in DEV system there might be three clients
100, 300, 500. So you will be able to see ur smartforms in
all the three clients.
But in order to see SapScripts you will have to transport the form from each client to another.
To see the smartform in you QA server which is a different appplication serer you will have to transport objects.
Regards,
Sudhir Atluru
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XI Repository objects client dependent or independent

Hi All,
As our XI installation is specific to perticluat client
I have the following doubt.
XI repository objects are client dependent or independent.
Venu.

Hi Sravya,
Thank u very much for responding.
Here i Suggested my basis gui based on the suggestions earlier i got from this post.
I suggested the following things.
1) Install 3 instances DEV/QAV/PRD one clinet in each of the instance..
2) For the question they have raised regarding my IR/ID objects Client Dependent / Independ, I answerd both are client Independent and we can transport the objects from one instance to another.
3) here the confusion for them is if they are client independent , if we do change in ur objects that might effect in other instance objects since they are client independent. I told them unless we transport the objects from one instance to other there would not be any problem.
Please confirm my answer. and suggest.
Thanks,
venu.

Client dependent and client independent in ALE

I am going through pdf learning of an ALE scenario,i couldnot get wat is meant by client Independent and client dependent.
How can i conclude
Create message type (WE81){color:green} Client independent {color}
To create a new message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE81 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Create logical message type)
u2022 Choose Create logical message type by double clicking on it
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to add a new type
u2022 Enter the required message type, in our case it is ZINVRV and an appropriate description
u2022 Save and exit.
Your message type has now been created. The next step will be to link it to the IDoc.
2.2.1. Link message to IDoc type (WE82 & BD69) {color:green} Client independent {color}
To link the message type to the IDoc type follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction WE82 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> EDI: Message Types and Assignment to IDoc Types)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
u2022 Enter transaction BD69 (ALE -> Extensions -> IDoc types -> Maintain message type for intermed. Structure -> Assign message type to IDoc for ALE)
u2022 Click on change icon to enter change mode
u2022 Click on New entries to create the link
u2022 Enter the message type ZINVRV and the BasicIDoc type as ZINVRV01
u2022 Save and exit
Your IDoc is now linked to your message type. We still need to link object types and add the message to the model before we can use the message.
2.2.2. Maintain object type for message type (BD59) Client independent
The ALE objects are used to create links between IDocs and applications objects, to control the serialisation, to filter messages in the customer model and to use listings.
For our own message type and IDoc you must maintain object types for the links.
If you want to check the serialisation for the message type, then you must maintain object types for the serialisation. If no serialisation object has been maintained for a given message type, then the serialisation will not be checked for this message type.
To add an object type to our message type, follow these next few steps:
u2022 Enter transaction BD59 (ALE -> Extensions -> ALE object maintenance -> Maintain object types)
DOC NAME: ALE_SCENARIO_DEVELOPMENT_PROCEDURE
Version 1 Page 6 of 16
ALE Scenario Development Guide
u2022 Type in your message type ZINVRV and press enter
u2022 Click on New entries
u2022 Enter your object type, LIFNR (We need to use the vendor as a filter object), the segment name where LIFNR resides, Z1INVRV, a number 1 for the sequence followed by the actual field name LIFNR
u2022 Save and exit.
You have now created an object that weu2019ll use as a filter object in the customer model to direct the flow of messages to the various logical systems based on the vendors in the filter of the message type ZINVRV.
We now need to add our new message type to the distribution model.
2.3. Configuring the Distribution Model
This task is performed on your ALE reference client.
2.3.1. Manual Configuration (BD64) {color:green} Client dependent {color}
To manually configure the customer distribution model, read the ALE configuration procedure, and follow these steps:
u2022 Perform the Maintain customer distribution model directly function. (ALE -> Distribution customer model -> Maintain customer distribution model directly)
u2022 Specify the customer model you want to maintain and the logical system that is to be the sender of the messages OR create a new model. (Create model ALE with logical system ALELS1C400)
u2022 Choose the receiving systems to which the sending system must forward message type ZINVRV to.
u2022 For each receiving logical system allocate the message type necessary for communication to the receiving systems as per ALE configuration procedure.
u2022 Create filter objects (in our case LIFNR as the object type with the associated vendor number, 0000018001 with leading zeros, in the object area) for the message types.
u2022 Save the entries.
Refer my query within color:green
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 12:57 PM
Edited by: aditya sharma on Jul 14, 2010 1:01 PM

A client is an independent business unit within an R/3 System, Data in the R/3 are classified as cleint-Dependent and client-independent.
Client-independent data such as ABAP Programs, R/3 repository objects throught the entire system. Other data is client-dependent. meaning, it can be viewed from one client. Cleint-dependent data includes customizing application and user data.
Eg.
Scripts are client dependent, means the changes done to SAP scripts in particular client will not be reflected in other client.
Smartforms are client independent, means changes done in one client will be reflected in all the clients.
Server : ECC6
Client : 100 , 200 , 300 , 400
Now suppose you have developed report in DV server client 100.
Then you will be able to see that in all clients.
Hence this is called as client independent. You can change anywhere and changes will be reflected to all ...
Now suppose you have developed a script in DV client 100.
You will not be able to see that in client 200 or 300 or 400 unless ytou copy that from client since it is client dependent.

Are risks client dependent or independent in GRC 10.0?

Hi Experts!
My bosses has a question:
Are risks client dependent or independent in GRC 10.0?
Logically I would say client dependent, but they need a much official answer.
Could you please someone give this info, who has an installed system.
Thanks for your help!
Peter!

Hi if you're referring to risks generated after analysis 'YES' it's client dependent, basically you analyse risk against the user/role assignment. If you're talking about the risk for initial load I've no system to check but since they're considered as database table entries from technical standpoint, they're client dependent objects only.
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What exactly is the diff between client dependant and client independant te

Hi gurus,
What is the diff between client independant and client dependant term.. I initially had a confusion related to client independant and client dependant Transport requests, where else are these words applicable, do they apply to data as well, if so how? any links to help me understand the difference..
regards,
kishore

Hi Kishore,
Client Independant: These objects are not specific to any client. And it is universal which can be viewed,changed across the clients.
Client Dependant: These are the objects can be viewed, changed for the client for which it has been assigned. Other clients do not have access on these objects.
In SAP, all objects are finally stored as tables. "Mandt" is key field which determines whether the object is client dependant or not.
Client Independant transport requests will make the transported objects available across the clients. and Client dependent transport request make the objects available only for the client mentioned by field "Mandt"
Regards,
Dinesh D

Sapscript is a client dependent or independent?

sapscript is a client dependent or independent?how we can downlod sap script?plzz tell
Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Feb 12, 2008 10:17 AM

Hi
sapscript is client dependent.
Use ABAP program: RSTXSCRP
It will download and upload your sapscripts as a text file in your local harddisk.
copy SAP Script from one client (512) to client (500).
Login to Client (512)
Goto SE38 or SA38 and execute the abap program: RSTXSCRP
Mode : EXPORT
Login to Client (500)
Goto SE38 or SA38 and execute the abap program: RSTXSCRP
Mode : IMPORT
or
Login to Client (500)
Goto SE71 - Click Utilities - Copy from client
Edited by: Jyothsna M on Feb 12, 2008 4:21 PM

Client independant and client dependant

can anybody explain me what exaclty is clientdependant and independant..also cross client means?
thanks and regards
vijaya

Hi Durga,
    As the name says
    Client - for example assume there is company called
             "sony". It can have many plants across the
             countires. Sony divides these plants into
             different groups based on functionality.
             These groups are called client.
    Mostly which ever the object that is developed in the SAP will developed in a way that is usefull across users.
    But there will some sepcific needs for users/clients of SAP like language barriers....units..currecies....etc...etc. Which will be not same for all.
    Client dependent - if object is prepared taking
                       into consideration of above
                       example barriers it is dependent
                       ELSE.
                       It is client indpendent.
   Client dependent or independent can be know for the filed sy-mandt. and also in SE09

Client dependent objects and client independent objects

Hi Experts,
Is there a way to find which objects are client dependent and which are client independent? Recently, I changed a small GUI settings in testing client and the changes were happened in production also automatically without a transport request, how can it be possible?
How can I identify similar other objects changing whom it impacts other client w/o a transport request?
Kindly share your views on it.
Thanks a lot..
Regards
Saurabh

Just small correction to Rahul answer - tables with field defined as data element MANDT are client dependent.
Usualy that field will not be shown in SE16 and SE16N transactions but you will find it's definition in table definition in SE11 - ABAP Dictionary Maintenance transaction, content of this field is visible when clicking on icon
Br,
Mario

Client dependent & client independent objects

Hi All,
What is meant by client independent & client dependent ?
I know that sapscripts are client dependent while smartfiorms are client independent. Also reports & FMs are client independent.
Want to have a better idea on this concept....
Thanks in advance..
Sweta

If you create a table in 010 client in DEV server with CLNT as its first fields type, then you will find that table structure in all clients in DEV server. (i.e client independent)
example: function module, abap program, smart form.
If you create a record in that table in 010 client, you will not find that record in other clients. (i.e client dependent)
Example: script.
Sap script was developed a long back.
smartform is developed to avoid these type of some restrictions
Also:
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
MANDT is the field which differenciates the table from Client Dependent and Client Independent Tables.
All the Scripts are Client Dependent Objects
Smart Forms, Function Modules are Client Independent Objects.

Client Independent & client dependent tables

Hello,
Can anyone please tell me what is client dependent and client independent tables?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Srini

In SAP, highest level of organisation structure is client which you are entering at the time of log-in itself.
In most of the tables are client dependant where first column is client (MANDT) by default and entry in that field is complusory. so that is client dependant table.
There are few tables which are client independents, effect of any change in this table will affect all the clients. In that table client field is not there.
Whenever you making any change in value of such table, system will give you message that "this is client independance, whether you want to change it".
Hope it is clear.
Regards,
Vinod

Client dependent n client independent?????????/

hi this is vinod,
please explain the concept behind of script client dependent and smartforms r client independent pleaseee its urgent????????????

Hi,
Client dependent Means if you create that data in one client is limited to that client only and it is not accessable in other clients
Like SAP SCRIPTS and STD texts data
where as Client Independent means the data if you create in one client that is available in that as well as in other clients
Like SMARTFORMS, All dictionary Objects data and Repository objects data like Programs, Fun modules, tables etc..
There is no specific reason behind why scripts are client dep[endent and smartforms are client independent!!!
As for SAP -- Scripts are called client dependent because if you create client in say,200 it would be available in that only.If you want to test the script in client 300 then it won't be there,you will have to go to transaction se71 in 300 .Then Utilities-> Copy from client.Give the source as 200 & form name(i.e. script name) & copy.
Few more reasons why....? Please read below:
SAPscript technology is based on a mainframe product from the 1980s.SAPscript forms have always been -- under the hood -- relatively passive objects, with minimal embedded logic. These forms were designed to be driven and controlled by ABAP programs, much in the way ABAP programs read in database tables to produce reports;
if you ever download a SAPscript form (e.g., via utility program RSTXSCRP), and look at the portable text file it produces you'll see what I mean.
Many text objects (e.g., invoice header texts) are bound directly to documents which are client-dependent, so it makes sense for these text objects to also be client-dependent. From a complexity standpoint, SAPscript forms are close enough to these text objects where I can see how it made sense at the time to make them client-dependent too.
rewards if useful,
regards,
nazeer

Client Dependent & Client Independent

Hi
How can I identify Client Dependent & Client Independent Data ?
Thanks
Christine

Hi,
There are two types of objects in SAP, client dependent and client independent.
Objects used in several clients are called client independent while objects used in a specific client is called client dependent. To identify if a table is client dependent, one can use tcodes SE11 or SE12. In the table field attributes, if the MANDT field is present that table is client dependent.
A client-dependent table has the field MANDT of data type CLNT, which indicates Client id.
A client-independent table does not have this field.
Data which can be access by all user are client independent (no mandt field in table). Data which can be access by some specific user are client dependent (use mandt field in table)
Mohan
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List of client dependant and independent

Hi All,
Can any one let me knw the list of objects which are client dependent and which are not.
Thanks,
Vibha

Hello Vibha
The following list shows the client-dependent repository objects:
LIMU     FSEL     Field Selection
LIMU     VARI     Report Program System Variant
R3TR     COC1     CO: Cost Centers
R3TR     COC2     CO: Activity Types
R3TR     FORM     SAPscript form
R3TR     LODS     HRDSYS: Logical information object client-dep. table E SYST
R3TR     PCYS     HR: Transport standard personnel calculation rules
R3TR     PHDS     HRDSYS: physical information object client-dep. table E SYST
R3TR     SBNL     Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBNP     Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBNR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR     SBPL     Logical Information Object for BDS: Bid Invitation
R3TR     SBPP     Physical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBPR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR     SBRL     Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBRP     Physical Information Object
R3TR     SBRR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR     SBSL     Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBSP     Physical Information Object
R3TR     SBSR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR     SBTL     Logical Information Object for BDS
R3TR     SBTP     Physical Information Object
R3TR     SBTR     BDS: Relationship Between Information Objects
R3TR     SBWL     Logical information object for BDS
R3TR     SBWP     Logical information object for BDS
R3TR     SBWR     BDS: Relationship between information objects
R3TR     SRHL     SRM: Hierarchical Lists
R3TR     SRLD     Language-Dependent Client-Specific Retrieval Index Objekt
R3TR     STYL     SAPscript Style
In contrast to client-independent repository objects which can be imported into any client these objects must be transported into their specific target client.
Regards
Uwe

Why SAP Script client-dependent but Smartform is client independent

Hi All,
What are the fundamental reasons for justifying that SAP Script is client-dependent but Smartform is client independent ???
Regards
jaman

hi,
why script is client dependent?
the reason is:
in script, to display some table data, we use text elements, where the text elements access the dictionary tables data. there the table from which we are fetching data, that may be a client dependent table, so first the text elements became client dependent. as script use text elements, script also became client dependent.
hope u got the point. to b simple, the text elements r client dependent, there fore scripts also became client dependent.
smartforms are client independent. bcoz it doesnt use any text elements. it will be executed through a function module, as you know function modules are client independent, the smartform also became client independent.
hope ur clear, if any doubts, plz post them back.
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