Clipping Paths and Smart Object

When I place a photoshop eps into a PSD file the image doesn't come over with a transparent background. I do have an active clipping path, it showes up transparent when placed in Illustrator and InDesign. Am I mistaking in thinking that the image would be clipped when placed?
I am using CC, but this problem has been in both CS6 and CS4

PS operates on channel-based transparency. Just having a clipping path doesn't associate it with the pixel data. You will have to create a proper transparent layer and assign the path as the clipping path.
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Why does Illustrator CS4 save pdfs with clipping paths and make rasters of gradient areas

I am on a IMAC and upgraded to 10.6.8 Jan 2014. I am using CS4 Illustrator to create with. When i save my work as a pdf then reopen the pdf in Ill to make changes, the whole page has:
A.) Multiple clipping paths around it
B.) Most text has now become outlined. Not editable anymore.
C.) Gradient areas have multiple clipping paths of the single gradient area
D.) The gradient areas now become rasterized.
This is very frustrating as now all of my marketing files, some 300+, are worthless. I don't know where to look anymore to find the problem.
Please help.
Thank you very much

John,
I have the presets as you have shown. I had been editing the supplied items as you suggested. Then figured i should ask the questions of those who are better than I.
But still a bit confused as to why the new save places clipping paths around the document.
Thank you John and Monika for your help.
why does Illustrator CS4 save pdfs with clipping paths and make rasters of gradient areas
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I do a save as "pdf" in the format pull down tab. I save to a folder on the hard drive. Where is the "Illustrator editability" check box? I presumed it is in Acrobat some where
but i seem to be lost.
It is in Illustrator's Save Adobe PDF dialog, which pops up before the saved file is written.
https://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-6439399-644928/450-397/Untitl ed-1.jpg
Sorry i didn't mention this, but this seems to have occurred when using images and text from provided pdfs.
That's a critical fact. If you didn't do the original save, the above is moot, and it's too late to exercise any control over the save process. Someone else failed to save for editability. The only thing you can do is clean up/repair the content, (release clipping masks, rebuild rasterized elements, expand objects, etc.), and save correctly as AI. Then, if necessary, re-save as PDF with the correct settings.
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ACR and Smart Objects

ACR and Smart Objects...
Ok, I'm trying to take the plunge into Smart Objects. I want to control localized luminance as well as localized contrast adjustments (using masks in PS CS3) in a non destructive and flexible way. Instead of the usual: bringing into PS multiple exposures of a single Raw image, or bringing into PS multiple bracketed images (landscape) I am exploring the idea of bringing these images into PS as Smart Objects.
I have figured out how to work with multiple copies of a single Raw image as Smart Objects, but can not figure out how to get different bracketed Raw files layered into PS as Smart Objects...
Would someone offer some assistance, if it is possible?
Thank you!

>Would someone offer some assistance, if it is possible?
If you have multiple images (as opposed to multi versions of the same image) you'll need to open each of the images as separate SO's and separate documents, then drag them into one document.

How do I transform a clipping path and layer at same time?

I have a bunch of images with clipping paths that need to be altered. Most images need skewed or distorted, and I can't figure out how to transform the path at the same time I transform the layer - so I do not have to create new paths. Thanks
Working in Photoshop CS2

I’m afraid You will have to employ a workaround.
I would recommend applying the Path as a Vector Mask to the Layer (with the Path selected command-click on the Add Layer Mask-button in the Layers-panel), then transforming, subsequently duplicating the Vector Mask and removing it from the Layer.
Or copy-paste it into the existing Clipping Path and then remove it.
Some part of the procedure may be automate-able with Actions or Scripts and hopefully it will still save at least some time.

Trouble with clipping paths and expanding

Hey y'all. Okay, so I have a Illustrator element that uses a clipping path.
Even after I run "Expand Appearance" on it, it's not trimming the art to the bounds of the path.
It's making for difficult to position correctly when copying into Photoshop as a Smart Vector or Shape Layer:
And it isn't correct in After Effects either.

What you are describing is just another example of the very common need to trim artwork (including filled, unfilled, open, and/or closed paths) without wrecking its already-applied Attributes, Appearances.
As has been discussed many many times here, Illustrator simply does not provide that basic functionality...neither by its horribly-designed cutting tools nor through its problematic and caveat-riddled Pathfinders. Expanding a Clipping Path doesn't serve as a workaround for this long-missing functionality; nor does flattening transparency. You can't do it without resorting to the workarounds you've already tried or others that will no doubt be suggested.
Once again:
NONE of Illustrator's cutting tools (Knife, Scissor) can cut across artwork that includes multiple open, unfilled paths. Open unfilled paths are ignored by the Knife cut. The Scissor cannot cut across multiple paths at once.
Illustrator's recently-added, very poorly implemented Eraser tool comes nearest to the needed functionality. It can at least cut multiple unfilled open paths without their becoming converted to unstroked, closed fills. But it unpredictably alters the shapes of remaining portions and has no means by which to accurately control a cutting shape other than rectangular.
This is a prime example (there are others) of how Illustrator confuses and clutters the interface with multiple under-powered tools designed for similar functions, none of which measure up to a single tool properly designed for the same purposes in most other programs.
Pathfinders are riddled with ridiculous caveats. Those which come close to providing the needed functionality are incapable of ommitting the unwanted deadwood and/or wreck strokes by outlining them.
Illustrator needs a feature that allows any given path to be employed as either a selection marquee or a cutting path. And the cutting operation needs to act as expected regarding strokes as well as fills--as common in any other drawing program that does provide the long-missing functionality (most do; Illustator never has).
JET

Photoshop Vectors and Smart Objects Create Blurring

I have been supplied a Photoshop document that has Illustrator Vector files that have been placed in the PSD as Smart objects.
When I bring the PSD into InDesign and print it, all the PSD artwork is blurry.
How can I get the PSD file to print from InDesign at high quality.
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When I place separate images into my CMYK master document, should I be placing them as smart objects and preserving their RGB values? Is there any benefit or detriment to doing that? I imagine it's good to preserve the RGB values, but if I am always going to print to a CMYK press with that particular document, then does it benefit me in any way? I've shied away from keeping the RGB values because I feel like they give me a false view of what the CMYK doc will turn out to look like. Any suggestions?

Stephanie:
I am not being unkind but there is SO much more to this subject than you currently begin to comprehend.
Let's start with your Color Management settings:
(gballard's web site, to which we directed you in your other thread, will be a great help to you in getting a better understanding of this subject.)
You simply MUST start with a properly calibrated and PROFILED monitor. That is non-negotiable so buy a spectrometer (Puck) if you don't already have one.
In your CM settings you have a selection of choices but if you are sending work to a Press, it is absolutely essential that you choose a CMYK Profile which is targeted to the KIND of Press and the type of Stock on which your job will run.
And of course you can, and SHOULD, create your document in a recognized RGB working space (either ProPhoto or Adobe RGB but NOT sRGB) and embed that Profile into your document because you then have the flexibility to CONVERT that RGB file to the correct CMYK Profile for the job.
And your Printing Company has some terms of reference, and the means of rectifying your file, if your CMYK conversion does not meet the requirements of their Presses.
Next, you need to learn to use Soft Previews.
You should set your proposed CMYK Profile as your Preview Profile (in Photoshop's View menu/Proof Set-up/Custom) making sure that you have checked "Simulate Paper Color".
If you keep "Proof Colors" checked, you can work in RGB while getting a very clear idea of how your colors will actually print when the ink hits paper on the Press.

Sharpen and smart objects

Everything I read tells me to wait until the last step before printing to sharpen photographs. However, I am converting my photographs to smart objects just after opening them in photoshop and when I am finished manipulating the photograph and ready to sharpen before printing, the sharpen filter is entered underneath the smart object in the layers palette as a smart filter. This suggests to me that photoshop is 'inserting' sharpening as it were, as a previous step and although I didn't perform it until last, it is converted by photoshop to an early step.
Do I have to give up smart objects so that sharpening just before printing remains as a last step or is the positioning of smart filters near the bottom of the list misleading me into thinking they are being applied out of the order I intend?

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Lightroom - Photoshop and Smart Objects

Hi there,
I've got a very general, work flow related question.
I want to open some of my Lightroom images as smart objects in photoshop to do certain changes.
The files are opened in PS as .tif and I add some layers etc.
If I now save the image, it gets re-imported in LR.
However, I seem to lose all the data like layers etc of photoshop, and I'm not sure how to prevent this.
If I close the image in photoshop, re-open the new LR image again in PS, the layers etc are gone.
What's the correct workflow to do this? (Open images from LR in PS to do adjustments, and save them back to LR)
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When you re-open the tif file in Photoshop, choose Edit Original. What you're doing is opening with LR adjustments, causing it to create a new flattened tif.

MergedCompositeChannels and smart object

Is mergedCompositeChannels include previos smart filter ?
My filter plugin drawing some lines on document for comic artists.
I'm using Channnel Port Suite's ReadScaledPixels Callback with mergedCompositeChannels for preview.
When I create the smart object and apply my filter, double-click filter's name on tumbnail and modify parameters, it looks strange that first filter's result was shown on preview area.
If I add same filter on that smart object, the second one is works fine, only first filter on smart object has strange effect.
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I do three things in Photoshop:
1. add background
2. apply a glow around the imported vector graphics to enhance visibility
3. apply an texture overlaying the whole thing
And I forgot to mention before that, in addition to printing, I also need to save the final images into individual JPGs or PNGs for digital preview.
1. I can do in Illustrator, but I've found that adding any raster content in the AI significantly increases the file size and slows all operations. So I'm trying to avoid doing this.
2. and 3. can also be done in Illustrator, but I've found the results to look much better in Photoshop. Not sure why, it just does...
But even if I do all of these in Illustrator, it does not solve the problem of extremely long operation time, since I will still need to eventually export the artboards into separate files. Illustrator does the same thing as Photoshop when exporting: it rasterizes the entire file and then cut them down to each artboard, which, again causes the operation time to grow exponentially as artboard increases.
EDIT:
I have also tried exporting the rasterized image as one single image, and then slice them up in Photoshop. Unfortunately, the AI file is so big that Illustrator cannot export them as one rasterized image.
I also prefer to minimize batch operations in Illustrator. A long batch operation in Illy will prevent me from doing anything for tens of minutes, whereas I can continue to work on different things in Illustrator while Photoshop is running a batch operation.

Clip Paths and temp-files

I guess that clip paths are needed for all the files I've
pasted from Illustrator, but do I need all the temp-files?
How can I clean up the clip paths, bitmaps and temp files I
don't use in my project? Flash freezes a couple of seconds now when
I add, remove or edit an item in the Library...

Now I may be wrong (see my sig), but there is only one way I
know to get only the files you use into the library. Copy all of
the frames in the main timeline (highlight all frames - right-click
copy frame), then create a blank document, right-click on frame one
and paste the frames. That will only bring across items from the
library that are used, leaving behind the garbage. Save your new
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Lightroom, Photoshop CS3 and Smart Objects

Is there a way to select a raw file in Lightroom and choose to have it open in
Photoshop CS3 as a smart object, or can this only be done thru ACR? I've looked
over v1.1 and didn't notice this as an option.

If I want to do any editing not allowed to smart objects such as clone stamp I can then create a layer and then apply the clone stamp to the layer, can't I?
And that is where the underlying Smart Object starts losing (some of) its usefulness.
Because all those edits will be unaffected if you should choose to change the development settings of the embedded RAW.
Secondly, should I also convert all layers to smart layers or leave them as a normal layer.
What for?
Unless you want to non-destructively apply transformations or Filters or need several instances of something in one file it would mainly cause a drag on performance. (Edit: or bloat the files’s size)
But in those cases Smart Objects offer significant advantages.

RE: Camera Raw and Smart Objects

Hello Everyone.
I have a question please.
Inside the Camera Raw 8.1, Inside the Workflow Options, I Checked the Box for Open In Photoshop as a Smart Objects.
I noticed Inside the Camera Raw, Open Image box turn to, Open Object box. I click on open, and It opened the Image as a Smart Objects Inside the Photoshop.
If I make any changes to the Image, and If I Double Click on the Smart Object, It will Open In Camera Raw again which Is good.
I also noticed If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Camera Raw to the Smart Object after clicking on Open Smart Objects I see the changes Inside the Photoshop also.
But If I do any changes to the Image Inside the Photoshop,and later I Double Click on the Image the Image opens Inside the Camera Raw, without any changes.
This Is my question: The Smart Object Image Is still a Raw Image ?
This Is my next question:
I know If I open a Raw Image Inside the Camera Raw, and If I click on Done, the image is still a Raw Image, which Is good, and If I click on Reset Bottom, It will reset It back. If I only change the White Balance and Click on Done and go back to the Camera Raw again, and I choose As Shot, the Image goes back the Original Raw file.
But If I do other changes such as the exposure, any color change, and click on done I can never go back to the original..
In the past month I been working with the Lightroom, and I noticed if I open a Raw image Inside the Lightroom, and do any changes to that Image,, any time I can click on the Reset and the Raw image goes back to its original.
I don't think we can do this with Camera Raw can we ?

Clear removes the Camera raw settings completely. You will not see the adjustment icon on the thumbnail in Bridge
Camera Raw Defaults will show the icon and double clicking the thumbnail will always open it in Camera Raw with the Default settings. The Default is "As Shot", which is why you don't see any difference. It's when you choose a Custom Default that you will. It will stay with the Camera Raw file.
See this article by Julienne Kost.
http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2009/10/setting_new_camera_raw_default.html
Another difference is with Jpegs. Open a Jpeg in ACR, make an adjustment, click "Done". Select "Camera Raw Defaults" and it will always open in ACR instead of Photoshop. Select "Clear" and it's a normal jpeg that will once again open in Photoshop.
Basically that's about all I know, I normally don't use ACR much.

Lightroom develop, Photoshop Raw and Smart objects

I understand that Lightroom's Develop function and Photoshop Raw adjustments are the same. So I adjust in either or. I can then open the photo as a smart object in photoshop. I can then make further adjustments as an adjustment layer. Which I think is the same as both Lightroom's Develop function and Photoshop Raw adjustments? I understand smart objects allows non destructive editing and smart filters.
SO my questions are: When would you not open the photo as a smart object? Surely I should always open the photo as a smart object? If I want to do any editing not allowed to smart objects such as clone stamp I can then create a layer and then apply the clone stamp to the layer, can't I?
Secondly, should I also convert all layers to smart layers or leave them as a normal layer.
Or thirdly, am I way off track?

If I want to do any editing not allowed to smart objects such as clone stamp I can then create a layer and then apply the clone stamp to the layer, can't I?
And that is where the underlying Smart Object starts losing (some of) its usefulness.
Because all those edits will be unaffected if you should choose to change the development settings of the embedded RAW.
Secondly, should I also convert all layers to smart layers or leave them as a normal layer.
What for?
Unless you want to non-destructively apply transformations or Filters or need several instances of something in one file it would mainly cause a drag on performance. (Edit: or bloat the files’s size)
But in those cases Smart Objects offer significant advantages.

Blur Gallery and Smart Objects

Despite a lot of reading I am not understanding some of the subtleties here. I have converted my layer to a smart object, and then gone into blur gallery where I have used Iris blur where I have dropped two different pins with the intent of isolating two different areas of sharpness in the photo.
Then after I have rendered the filter I click on the smart object layer mask, and use a brush directly on the image to try and paint on some additional areas of blur. Unfortunately nothing seems to happen. I can wipe away some areas of blur, that exist but I can't do it in all blurred areas of the photo. According to the video I should be able to paint on additional areas of blur. I suspect this all has something to do with the fact that I am using two separate pins in the blur gallery, but I can't figure out how everything interacts.
Hope someone can shed some light on this.

I am not sure what I could show you a screen shot of. My problem is that I want to paint directly on the mask in order to add or subtract additional areas to it with a brush.
If I double-click on the name of the of the smart filter in the layers panel it reopens the blur gallery, and yes I can edit the mask there, but not by using a brush. The tools for editing the mask in the blur gallery are not allowing me to get the precise shape I want, and that is why I wanted to edit the mask directly outside of the blur gallery. This video here CreativeCloud Smart Object Support for Blur Gallery and Liquify in Photoshop CS6 Creative Cloud - YouTube from Adobe indicates at approximately the 1 minute mark, that doing what I am suggesting will work; Unfortunately I am having only limited success.

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