Clips randomly jumping within a multiclip edit

I'm going nuts! I completed an edit from a 2 camera event using the multiclip function with in-points as my beginning reference. I rendered the whole timeline with all transitions and filters - took a break - came back to create an opening and discovered that randomly throughout the entire sequence clips are now shifted out of order. Portions of scenes just appear in the middle of other scenes - WHAT THE HECK I'M I DOING WRONG?
Thank you so kindly for any help
TABeav

Always collapse once your cut is done. Otherwise, any filters you add are being added to each angle in the multiclip, which increases render times as many times as you have angles.
You can always go back and uncollapse a particular clip to change the shot if desired.

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