Clone RAC Install - CRS and RDBMS Homes

Hi All,
I have used the clone option with oui to clone an existing Oracle RDBMS home as per Metalink article 300062.1.
I am interested in cloning a RAC install , including CRS nd RDBMS homes , and can see that the clone directory exists , so assume it must be possible, does anyone know if there are specfic instructions on how to clone a CRS/RAC install ?
Thanks,
Darrell

Please go with links:------------
www.oracle.com/database/rac_home.html -
www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/clustering

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Install CRS and RAC with different users

I' m tring to install CRS and RAC with different users.
It is supported but I don't find documentation.
Have someone experience with this configuration ?
My question are related to permission/own of voting and ocr file.
in this configuration is CRS owner or DB owner that run srvctl commands ?
Thanks !

Yes it is ... check out the RAC FAQ on metalink, and just as Chris metioned the users will need to have the oinstall group as their primary..
"Is it supported to install CRS and RAC as different users.
Yes, CRS and RAC can be installed as different users. The CRS user and the RAC user must both have "oinstall" as their primary group, and the RAC user should be a member of the OSDBA group.
Modified: 09-SEP-04 Ref #: ID-5769 "

Can i have same ORACLE_BASE directory location for Grid and RDBMS home ?

Grid Version:11.2.0.3
OS : RHEL 5.8
Can I have same ORACLE_BASE location for Grid (CRS) and RDBMS software Homes ?

The OFA guideline for ORACLE_BASE is /u01/app/<owner>. If you are using the same owner for all software (let's call him "oracle") then a simple installation will have one base /u01/app/oracle. This base will be shared by all installations of Grid and RDBMS software. But, if you use two separate owners (let's call them grid and oracle) then you will have two separate ORACLE_BASE locations /u01/app/oracle and /u01/app/grid. I always use two separate owners, but I know many people who only use the oracle account and that is fine too.
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su -
umask 0022
mkdir -p /u01/app/oraInventory
# Grid Base
mkdir -p /u01/app/grid
# Grid Home
mkdir -p /u01/app/12.1.0.1/grid
# Oracle Base
mkdir -p /u01/app/oracle
# Oracle Home
mkdir -p /u01/app/oracle/product/12.1.0.1/db_1
# Ownership for all of the above...
chown grid:oinstall /u01/app/grid
chown grid:oinstall /u01/app/oraInventory
chown grid:oinstall /u01/app/12.1.0.1
chown grid:oinstall /u01/app/12.1.0.1/db_1
chown oracle:oinstall /u01/app/oracle
My examples show 12.1.0.1 but it's the same for 11.2.0.3.
There's no requirement to create the home directories prior to running the OUI. It can create them for you. I just shown these commands to help you understand the big picture.
The OUI will pop-up a warning if the Grid user's ORACLE_HOME is outside of his ORACLE_BASE as shown in the above mkdir commands, which is funny since it is the recommended setup in the Oracle RAC documentation. I submitted a bug report several years ago. To be consistent across all of my RAC and non-RAC servers I follow the more strict rules of RAC and use the mkdir commands shown above.

Patching Strategy for CRS and ASM homes

I'm fairly new to RAC/ASM and haven't performed any patch set upgrades yet. Back in the simple days when I wanted to apply a patch set to a database, say from 10.2.0.4 to 10.2.0.5, I would create a brand new Oracle home ahead of time and apply the patch set to it. I'd name my homes like this:
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For CRS, it seems like the home is pretty well hard-wired into the node startup scripts and installing a brand new CRS home will probably disrupt the running CRS home.
Any thoughts about this?

Hi,
user5448593 wrote:
I'm fairly new to RAC/ASM and haven't performed any patch set upgrades yet. Back in the simple days when I wanted to apply a patch set to a database, say from 10.2.0.4 to 10.2.0.5, I would create a brand new Oracle home ahead of time and apply the patch set to it.
Now with CRS and ASM, is there a way to pre-stage a new home for those, but not have them "active" to the node until later during the maintenance window?Although you have not mentioned the version you are actually on, it is a quite up-to-date question and dilemma.
Starting with 11.2 for Grid Infrastructure only "out-of-place" patchset upgrades are supported.
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For ASM, it seems like it would be possible to treat the same way as database and simply update ASM SID in /etc/oratab
+ASM1:/opt/oracle/product/10.2.0.5/asm1
but I'm not totally confident in that as I'm afraid the CRS home may already have references to the ASM home in the cluster registry.
For CRS, it seems like the home is pretty well hard-wired into the node startup scripts and installing a brand new CRS home will probably disrupt the running CRS home.
Any thoughts about this?As of 11gR2 the ASM is part of the Grid Infrastructure, therefore it is running from the same home and not recommended to separate them. (although you can do that)
By the way, what is your upgrade path? It could be easier to answer your questions if we knew that as there has been a quite a few enhancements and changes in the upgrade/patching process from 10g to 11g. (even between 11gR1 and 11gR2)
Regards,
Jozsef

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Planning to install 11gR1 RAC a 2 nodes on HPUX IA64 and there are several architecture options:
Option 1: same owner and one single home (home1 = crs asm db)
pros - easier to patch on single home
cons - patch level may be required at crs level but not allowed at db level because of E-Business Suite certification constraints
Option 2: same owner and 2 homes (home1 = crs / home2 = asm db)
pros - one less home to upgrade
cons - ?
Option 3: same owner and 2 homes (home 1 = crs asm / home2 = db)
Is there any reason why Option 3 would be preferable or worse than Option 2?
Option 4: same owner and 3 homes (crs home / asm home / db home)
pros - each home can be on different patch levels
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I've made my decision to use Option 2 and here's why...
Excerpt from Known issues documented in
810663.1 11.1.0.X CRS Bundle Patch Information
CRS Bundle Patch has been renamed as CRS PSU. CRS PSU and Database PSU are two separate patches, i.e. Database PSU does NOT include the CRS PSU.
There should be no conflict or overlap between a CRS PSU and an RDBMS PSU -- both should be applied to the ASM and DATABASE Homes.
Also note that CRS PSU's can be applied to all homes (CRS, ASM and RDBMS). The general recommendation is to apply the bundle patch to all homes unless the homes are on a different patch level. This is because there are clusterware binaries in the database home (e.g.: srvctl).
PSUs for the RDBMS should be applied to the ASM and RDBMS homes.

How to clone 11gr2 grid and oracle homes

Hi,
By mistake I have installed the software and the database under the same disk /u01. I should had installed the software under /u02 and the database + grid infrastructure for standalone server + Oracle restart under /u01.
My database is 11gR2 on Linux Redhat server.
I have installed Grid Infrastructure for standalone server and the database in /u01.
How can I clean clone all these components from /u01 to /u02? I mean the components are:
- Grid Infrastructure for standalone server under grid user.
- Oracle Restart under grid user.
- Oracle software and Oracle database.
Thank you

gjilevski1 wrote:
Hi,
You can clone everything from GI to RDBMS home.
For GI cloning look for clone.pl at section 4
Oracle® Clusterware
Administration and Deployment Guide
11g Release 2 (11.2)
For 11gR2
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11857_01/em.111/e12255/oui6_cloning.htm
Regards,
Edited by: gjilevski1 on Jun 24, 2011 3:42 PMYou meant section 3 I think http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E14072_01/rac.112/e10717/new_clonecluster.htm
What about desinstalling everything : grid infrastructure, Oracle restart , Oracle homes, databases.
I have seen some users of this forum complaining of the errors from the de installer.
can I simply use the Deinstallation Tool downloaded from the OTN and then in ORDER:
1- Remove the Oracle database home under Oracle User:
./deinstall -home /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0/db_1
2- Remove the grid install under the grid user:
./deinstall -home /u01/app/11.2.0/grid
Any idea please?
Thank you

10205 RDBMS home with 10204 CRS

Hi friends,
We have a requirement to upgrade the CRS and ASM and Rdbms home from 10204 to 10205. For this purpose, I am not trying to upgrade the existing 10204 homes directly. Instead I am trying to install a new base version:
1) Install base 10201 for ASM and Rdbms home (on same server where 10204 crs asm rdbms is there)
2) upgrade base 10201 ASM and Rdbms to 10205 using patchset 8202632
3) Upgrade CRS later during the weekend.
My reason for doing this in this manner is so that I can save time during the actual outage window by just upgrading CRS at that time. But when I get to the point of applying the patchset, I get following error:
Checking Oracle Clusterware Version
The active version of oracleclusterware is not 10.2.0.5. Recommendation: you must upgrade all nodes of the Oracle Clusterware to 10205...you must upgrade all nodes of the Oracle Clusterware to 10205 before proceeding with this installation.
What I have done is that I have checked the User Verified checkbox and proceeded with the installation and upgrade to 10205. So my question would be:
Is what I did correct ?
Should I have just stopped the installation and proceed with CRS upgrade first and then do this upgrade ?
Will it cause any issues later like ASM or Rdbms home not working later when CRS is actually upgraded to 10205 ?
Thanks in advance.

I was checking this note "Oracle Clusterware - ASM - Database Version Compatibility (Doc ID 337737.1)
" and "The Oracle Grid Infrastructure/Clusterware (CRS) version must be the highest version down to the 4th digit in the possible combinations at all times. This means you have to upgrade Grid Infrastructure/Clusterware first."
I agree with this but I am not going to use the 10205 aSM and RDBMS homes until after the CRS itself is upgraded to 10205 on weekend. So on weekend all homes will be having 10205 only. Its only now when installing it separately that I need to know if its ok to do like this or if any issues....
Thanks,

Jan-2013 PSU on 11.2.0.3 over GI & RDBMS Homes (StandAlone Server),

Hello Experts,
Please excuse me if it fetches your precious time to read such a long request.
I need your help in applying patch over 11.2.0.3 Grid and 11.2.0.3 on single node stand alone databases.
I downloaded the two patches as given below and unzipped it under the directory /export/psu_grid and /export/PSU_Patch respectively. When I unzipped the grid patch I was little disturbed to see two numbers highlighted(So checked oracle documents and found it is a bundle for both rdbms and GI homes).
But I want to apply grid and rdbms homes seperatly, because I get confused when i read its readme.html file, because it talks about RAC only.
If I apply to GI home seperatly, Should I select 15876003 instead of 14727310 , Please check the below document which I have framed and guide me accordingly.
asm@dat-stb-ora05 /export/psu_grid > ls
14727310 bundle.xml README.html
15876003 p14727347_112030_AIX64-5L.zip README.txt
oracle@dat-stb-ora05 /export/PSU_Patch > ls
14727310 p14727310_112030_AIX64-5L.zip
Got from Oracle docs: For 11.2.0.3.5
BUG 14727347 - GRID INFRASTRUCTURE PATCH SET UPDATE 11.2.0.3.5 contains
BUG 15876003 - GRID INFRASTRUCTURE PATCH SET UPDATE 11.2.0.3.5 (GI COMPONENTS)
BUG 14727310 - DATABASE PATCH SET UPDATE 11.2.0.3.5
In this example, the <GI_PSU_number> is 14727347; the <GI_Components_number> is 15876003; and the <DB_PSU_number> is 14727310.
Here is my document: Please rectify me if I am going wrong in any way.
Grid home: /u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid
Oracle Home: /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3/db_1
Opatch version is : 11.2.0.3.0 ( SO I am good to go with Jan PSU patch i guess)
Grid patch (14727347) > 15876003(GI component) and 14727310(DB_PSU_Number) > I guess for grid the patch# 15876003
RDBMS Patch (14727310)
I will follow the following steps.
1. Validate the Oracle Inventory.
/opt/grid/11.2.0/grid/OPatch/opatch lsinventory -detail -oh /u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid
OPatch version : 11.2.0.3.0
2. Shut down the databases.
3. Run the prepatch script
cd /export/psu_gird
./15876003/custom/server/15876003/custom/scripts/prepatch.sh
4. Shutdown the ASM.
5. Will Run the below command to stop CSS etc.
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/crs/install/roothas.pl -unlock
(since it is not a RAC, do i still need to run rootcrs.pl -unlock, please correct me if i go wrong)
6. Will Apply grid patch.
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/OPatch/opatch napply -oh /u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid -id 15876003 (Please verify if this is the right patch# I'm mentioning)
7. Will Apply psu patch on Oracle home
/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3/db_1/OPatch/opatch napply -oh /u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3/db_1 -id 14727310
8. Run the postpatch script
./15876003/custom/server/15876003/custom/scripts/postpatch.sh
9. Run the following script to enable CSS etc.
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/roothas.pl -patch
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl check has
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl check css
10. If CSS is not online ran the below command.
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl modify resource "ora.cssd" -attr "AUTO_START=1"
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl modify resource "ora.diskmon" -attr "AUTO_START=1"
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl stop has
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/bin/crsctl start has
11. Bring Up the ASM and apply as shown below and same way for Databases.
@catbundle.sql psu apply
12. Finally will run the below command on grid and Oracle.
/u01/app/asm/product/11.2.0.3/grid/OPatch/opatch lsinventory
/u01/app/oracle/product/11.2.0.3/db_1/OPatch/opatch lsinventory
If steps are different please provide the right steps.
THanks in anticipation
Edited by: 982955 on Jan 25, 2013 7:56 AM

Let me suggest something:
Use a response file for applying a PSU on any Grid construction. It's sounds litte bit like voodoo, but given you did the usual preparation and checking, it's usually just three steps:
* Apply p6880880 for the most recent OPatch utility (you have to do this anyway as a prereq of the PSU)
* Create the response file (execute $ORACLE_HOME/OPatch/ocm/bin/emocmrsp - this binary comes with recent p6880880's) and move it to any convenient directory for the next step
* Do "opatch auto ./install/11203psu5 -ocmrf ./ocm.rsp"
I did it this way seven times now, and can't see a reason not to make it my common for the future.
Regards
Martin Klier

Question about 11gR2 Grid, RAC, /dev/shm and Automatic Memory Management

Hello,
i've recently installed grid and rdbms software 11.2.0.2 on a two node Oracle Linux cluster with 128gb ram each node.
I'm using ASM to store data and ocr and I'm testing Automatic Memory Management.
When I finished Grid+RDBMS installation I've seen that /dev/shm size is 64gb (half of my total RAM).
I've created a database with dbca and when I was asked to choose if I wanted to use AMM I've noticed that I could
allocate only about 60gb for Oracle. If I chose more than 90gb I got an error saying:
Using Automatic Memory Management requires 60gb available in my two nodes.
The current available space in the two nodes is only 30gb and 30gb.
If you want to use AMM you should either free up some space in /dev/shm
or reduce the memory allocated to Oracle
I was wondering when (during the installation or the settings of kernel parameters) did I define the space of /dev/shm ?
Since I have 128gb of RAM wouldn't it be better to use more than 64gb of ram for my /dev/shm tmpfs partition ?
Is there a limit or a ratio for best practice for my RAM and the /dev/shm ?
thanks in advance.

user9051299 wrote:
Is the "half of the RAM size" a kernel's default value or Oracle's ? Neither. There are a number of unique factors that determine the best memory size and fit for Oracle - including just how much memory is effectively available (i.e. how much is needed for other services and processes).
And from what I understand i don't "break" any Oracle's best practice by increasing the /dev/shm right ?Correct. (at least none that I'm aware of, and none that I have read in Oracle's RAC Starter Kit documentation).

Can we have separate 10gR2 RAC CRS and 11gR2 RAC CRS homes on same Unix s

We'd like to test the upgrade of our 10gR2 RAC databases to 11gR2 RAC.
We have six databases on the same server and want to install a separate 11g RAC stack (11g CRS, 11g ASM, 11g RDBMS) and upgrade each 10g database from 10g RAC stack on same server (10g CRS, 10g ASM, 10g RDBMS) . Is it ok to have 10g CRS home and 11g CRS home same server? If not, how best to upgrade without buying more hardware?
Thanks in advance,
Lou

In more detail, the main issue/question is whether there can be 2 Oracle CRS homes on the same server i.e. separate 10gR2 and 11gR2 CRS homes residing on the same server for the purposes of (gradually) upgrading all Oracle RDBMS homes from 10g RAC to 11g RAC.
Can there be? What would be the implications for the OCR and voting disk? In our case 10g CRS has OCR and Voting Disk on raw devices. In 11gR2, these would need to be migrated/upgraded/stored in ASM, right?
We have 6 10g rdbms homes in addition to the one 10g CRS home and one 10g ASM home. To upgrade can we
- Install 11gR2 CRS in a separate home (this would now include ASM as well)
- Install 11gR2 RDBMS home
- Upgrade one of the 6 10g databases while leaving the others untouched as 10g databases in the separate 10g CRS, 10g ASM stack?
Any ideas, pointers greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Lou

Install crs for rac

Hi,
I have somme problems whe i install crs 10g.
I have this error message where i run call D:\oracle\10.2.0\crs/install/crssetup.config.bat
PROT-1: Failed to initialize ocrconfig ocr upgrade failed with (-1)
I d'ont know why
Regards

You don't know why it failed and neither do we based on what you wrote.
1. We don't know what operating system you are using
2. We don't know what version of the Oracle database.
3. We don't know what edition of the Oracle database.
4. We don't know if you ran the cluster verify utility and if so what it reported.
5. We don't know what you intend as your shared storage solution.
What we do know, unequivocally is that the "D" drive is not shared storage as required by RAC.
Provide a full and complete RAC-relevant description of your hardware and operating system environment.

Installed 2 10g oracle homes and get ora-12557

hi,
I have installed 2 oracle 10g homes and now cannot connect to sqlplus as sysdba
the error is 0ra-12557, TNS protocol adapter not loasdable.
the installation is on windows 2003 server
everything was fine until the second oracle home was added.
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alan

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And generally make sure ORACLE_HOME is not set in your windows environment.
Ths will cause problems.

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