Clone Stamp Rotation
Apologies if this has been posted already (or is already possible) but for years now I've wanted to be able to rotate the Clone Stamp as lines in Photos are rarely straight. It would be so simple to just have another button press make a small rotation tool appear around the Stamp and the mouse would control the amount of tilt etc. Can we have this on CS6 please?!
Have you checked out »Keys for the Clone Source panel« in the Help.
It does not provide for the controls you seem to want, but maybe it helps.
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A problem using clone stamp tool
Hi guys,
I use After Effects CC last version on a pc under windows 7 ultimate..
This problem must be simple to solve but I just don't see how.
I have an aerial view of the Vesuvio. The volcano makes a 10 to 15° circular motion due to the helicopter moving.
I need to eliminate the actual houses and other trails on the border of the crater to have my volcano as it was 2000 years ago when it erupted and destroyed Pompeii.
I succeeded to do that with the clone stamp tool without a problem and it takes of course into account all the different shades of earth on the cliffs of the volcano.
But when I preview the shot, while the volcano moves, I can see the stamped touches of paint moving as if floating above the volcano. The older surface is not visible as I wanted but the new one does't follow the movement. I'm sure I forgot to do something but what? Should I do the clone stamp in conjunction with motion tracker, if so how? I tried once but got the same problem.
Thanks in advance
ClaudeOK, I see a bunch of painting on the nearest slope of the volcano that does not track with the shot. Your biggest problem is workflow using the clone stamp. You are just not using it properly. If it were me, the first think I would do is to use the After Effects tracker to stabilize this part of the volcano so that it didn't move in the frame.
Now you only have perspective issues to deal with.
Next I would duplicate the stabilized layer, pre-compose the duplicate moving all attributes to the new composition, name the preComp - clone or paint pre-comp, then open the pre-comp in the layer panel and use the clone stamp to repair the parts of the image you want to repair. You can then add other trackers for the parts of the image you want to clone or use a time offset to make your painted layer match the mountain.
I probably would do something completely different. I'd export the middle frame of this move as a Photoshop file, then go in and paint the mountain the way I wanted it to look. I'd mask the background in photoshop so I only see the sides and face of the volcano. Then I'd bring my painted mountain back into AE and animate distortion, scale and rotation so the painted layer matches the original perspective on the shot as close as possible. When that is done I'd go back to my main comp, add a null, tie the null's position to the anchor point of the stabilized footage, then parent the original copy of the footage and the painted copy to the null to put the camera movement back in the scene.
Here's a tutorial on how to apply tracking data to a clone stamp in AE:
Removing an Object with Clone Stamp - After Effects Tutorial
I am pretty convinced that you added the smoke... Use the same procedure to get the smoke to look right. It's also floating in an unnatural manner. You could also replace the far background with a matte painting of the city using the same mask, duplicate, paint in Photoshop, then distort and remove the stabilization. -
Photoshop CS4 Clone Stamp Tool behavior
I installed CS4 on a Dual Pentium Xeon 2.4ghz Compaq W8000 system with 3GB of RD 800mhz RAM and Windows XP Pro w/SP3 and all updates. The video card is a ATI Radion AGP-3855 w/512 GDDR3 RAM with latest drivers.
When using the clone stamp tool, after making a sourse selection there is a "trail" that follows the cursor to the destination (similar to using a mouse trail so you can tell where the cursor is on a notebook computer)
When the cursor slows down at the stamp destination the "trail" catches up and covers the destination with the sourse "patch" not allowing precise targeting. It is so cumbersome to use as to make the clone stamp tool almost unusable. The density of the "patch" is not affected by opacity settings.
Is this a new behaviour for this tool in CS4? And if so can it be turned off? Do I have a problem unique to my system?
MurrayHi Anthony,
Good point and thanks for suggesting the clone source features. I can see that it has tremendous potential and will revisit it to see if it will benifit my work. My immediate problem was that overlay was on as a default and it was not obvious to me where to address it.
I have not used this forum before as I have a couple of gurus I lean on, but was really impressed by the immediate help I recieved here.
I am a wildlife-mammal-stock shooter and I have been using Quick Mask, with a feathered brush to make small to medium selections on a, sometimes, flipped version of the image I am working on, or from another one. Moving the selection to a separate transparent (background) layer and then bringing it into my image as a separate layer and aligning it by setting the opacity at 50% and then using rotation, opacity and layer masking to finish the work.I then use the clone stamp at a low (20-50%) opacity to do additional "painting" and to blend the QM object. This approach is cumbersome, but highly effective, however I may be able to use "your" clone source options for simpler or different tasks.
Thanks,
Murray -
Hey..!
How do I track a clip and get the clone stamp tool to follow that track? Even if the object that I'm tracking is in a different place that the spot I'm trying to cover?
I'm looking for some kind og expression to get the position of the clone tool to follow a Null or something along those lines..?
Thanks
/PerExpressions for this kind of thing are very difficult and nearly impossible if there is a lot of movement and perspective change in the shot. Here's why. Let's say your shot was taken with the camera very close to the clock panning from left to right to center the clock. With the camera very close to the subject as the camera clock starts to come into frame the distance between the left and right side of the base is much shorter than it is when the clock is centered in the frame. This means that you must track scale and position and make adjustments to your clone position based on the change in scale as well as the change in position. If you throw in horizon angle changes like you would get if the camera was tilted to the left as well as panned to the left but straightened (or the shot was hand held and the horizon didn't stay level) then you would also have to track and make adjustments for rotation. Now you start getting into trigonometry. Lastly, you run into problems that crop up with the distance and angle of the original sample. because there are no controls to modify the location of the source. If your source is 100 pixels to the left and 50 pixels above the clone position it will always be 100 pixels to the left and 50 pixels above the sample point. If the perspective and scale changes then your source will change and the clone image will change.
Now that you understand the problem I'll show you how to use an expression to offset position from a track point. I will assume that there is no rotation in the shot.
This is how you approach the problem. You'll need to collect data from the tracker position (t), the scale change (ts), the initial position of the clone (ip), the offset between the clone position and the tracker position at the first frame (ofst), then you will have to calculate the change in offset or adjusted offset (aofst) as the scale (ts) changes by multiplying the offset (ofst) by the scale (ts), then you will have to calculate the new position by adding the adjusted offset to the track position. Here's the expression and it assumes that you have applied tracking data to a null you have named "Tracker":
t = thisComp.layer("Tracker").transform.position;
ts = thisComp.layer("Tracker").transform.scale/100;
ip = t.valueAtTime(0);
ofst = (value - ip);
aofst = [ofst[0]*ts[0], ofst[1]*ts[1]];
np = t + aofst;
Line 2, track scale is divided by 100 to convert percentage to a decimal so the multiplication in line 5 will give the right result.
Line 3 uses the value at time function to retrieve the position of the tracker at the start of the comp.
Line 4 calculates the offset by subtracting the value of the property, the clone position from the initial position of the tracker.
Line 5 adjusts the offset by multiplying the offset by the percentage. You have do to this calculation inside an array because scale and position are both arrays.
Line 6 simply adds the adjusted offset to the tracker position.
If there was rotation to throw into the mix you would have to use trigonometry to calculate the x and y offset based on the angle between the tracker position and the clone position. This would be fruitless because the offset position of the source for the clone would not change. In my example it would always be 100 pixels to the left and 50 pixels above the position of the clone.
A better solution with a moving shot would be to use the Motion Tracker to stabilize the shot removing the movement rotation and scale, applying that stabilization to the shot, duplicating the shot and naming the duplicate Clone, then using the original stabilized footage as the source, do the repairs with the clone tool, then set the clone to paint on transparent and drag that into your main comp and remove the stabilization using a null and a couple of expressions and a duplicate of your stabilized footage. -
Photoshop Elements 8. "Could not use Clone Stamp Tool because of a program error." Please help.
Try this:
Open your picture file
Access the clone stamp tool
Hold down the ALT key on the keyboard and left click on the area from which you wish to clone, then release the ALT key, and click to place the pixels at the destination
TIPS:
It is a good idea to open a blank layer at the top in the layers palette, and do the cloning on this layer. Be sure that "sample all layers" at the top is checked. You can change the layer opacity if necessary
Use the bracket keys next to the letter p on the keyboard to increase & decrease the size of the cursor
Let us know how you make out with the error message now. -
PS CS5 Extended on Windows
When trying to use the clone stamp and/or healing brush as soon as I move the cursor from the toolbar over to the image I get an exact copy of the existing layer that moves around the window with the movement of the clone stamp/healing brush. This just started tonight. What's causing this weird behaviour?What are the settings in Window > Clone Source?
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Clone Stamp Selection Failure in CS6
I try using the clone stamp but selection fails with this error message:
Could not use the clone stamp because the area to clone has not been defined (Alt-click to define source point).
When I press Alt, I see the characteristic selection bullseye. But, afterwards, a right-click of the mouse reveals an open circle and the error message.
I note that the key works for menu selections (e.g., Alt-File) and other actions.
I have closed PS and re-opened. Reset the clone stamp tool, closed and reopened, etc., to no avail.
/RogerMr. Kelly,
That seems to have fixed the problem: left-super+alt. I can live with that!
Regarding the suggestions about remapping - look-and-feel, etc.: the suggested track are not avialalbe under Xubuntu 12.04. And, I would be reluctant to re-map the super-key since it has functional significance when running Win (I have both Win-7 and XP in VMs).
I've bookmarked the wine wiki link for future reference.
WINE: Do you know if CS6 / Bridge / Adobe Raw, etc., work well? I had not thought of trying Wine. I've never had luck with it in the past - a waste of time for few apps that I must run in Win. Since I've got PShop working well in a VM, I'm thinking of sticking with that and not to invite new problems.
Thanks a lot for delving into this for me.
Glad I bought PShop - I've been using The Gimp for a long time but, while taking PS classes at Montgomery College, decided to buy. I'd been looking for knowledge/tips that might help in Gimp but, during the second class, decided to make the leap.
Best regards,
/Roger -
Clone Stamp not working in Elements 5
I have tried the trouble shooting sugestions on page 245 of Photoshop Elements 5, The Missing Manual by Barbara Brundage. However, I have been unable to get my clone stamp to work. Previously the clone stamp was working o.k. Do you have any other suggestions that I might try?
Also, are there some good editing advantages/improvements by upgrading to Elements 7 ?I held the keys down while starting the editor from the welcome screen and
got the box to delete the preferences. However I have not been able to get
the clone stamp to work. The delete preferences must have worked because my
brushes were changed back to the original setting. I normally use a
different setting to show the brushes as circles. I have been trying to
clone with the Size: 21 ps; Mode: Normal; Opacity: 100% and Aligned checked.
I have tried both checking and unchecking Aligned and Sample All Layers. I
tried a different photo but with the same results. When I Alt click to clone
I get a small circle with something similar to a plus sign in the circle.
The Edit shows an "Undo clone stamp" each time I Alt Click and try to clone
but nothing was cloned.
This is the first time that I've encountered this problem. -
Is there a Clone Stamp overlay facility in CS2?
Hi - I've got two versions of Photoshop: CS2 version 9, and Elements 9. I've been using Elements for a couple of years for tweaking and cropping photos but have become interested in the restoration and retouching. So I downloaded the (now, free) CS2 from the Adobe website. With its enhanced features, it can work magic but I notice that when using the clone stamp tool, unlike Elements, I don't see an overly within the clone circle, meaning that it's not as easy to match up edges etc before committing with a click. I can't find any reference to a clone stamp overlay option in CS2. Have I missed something? If not, I guess I'll switch between programs.
ThanksThanks for this. I thought the difference was about 5 years but I take on board that clone stamp overlay didn't exist with CS2.
As for 'freeness' I downloaded CS2 from the Adobe website for no money, which satisfies my criteria :-)
Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question. -
My Photoshop CS 5 has some strange actions when I copy a portion of a photo using the clone stamp to transfer to another part of the image. It carries the entire layer (not just the stamps selection) across the screen and I cannot place it where I need to. It appears as if I selected the entire layer on purpose (which I did not)
The below items appeared when I opened Photoshop CS 5:
“Photoshop has encountered a problem with the display driver and has temporarily disabled G & U enhancements. Check the video card malfunctions website for latest software. GPU enhancements can be enabled in the performance panel of preferences.”
(I believe this started after the automatically updated Windows was applied. It was coincident with the before mentioned problem . . . but I don’t really know if it had anything to do with it. )For the Clone Stamp problem, check the Clone Source panel and Clipped is probably unchecked.
If so, check Clipped and see if that makes a difference.
(Window>Clone Source)
As to the video card problem:
Which version of windows are you using?
What is the make and model of your graphics card?
Do you know which update windows installed? -
Is there anyone having problem with Clone Stamp in CS4?
Good Morning, I am using Photoshop CS4 Extended with Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit. My computer is a Dell XPS 430, WITH 8GB of ram, 1.5TB of disk space, ATI Radean HD 4800 Series adapter with 512MB memory. When I bring up an image in Photoshop and click on Clone stamp I get the error message "could not use the clone stamp because of a program error." I can still use Clone Stamp, but with some wied reults. Sometime the middle of the brush turns bright white and do nothing. Again it will clone the item clicked on, but would move the spot being cloned. Other times when the brush is move from the spot being cloned it will clone other area without cliking on them.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled Photoshop 4 times. I have created a new account with administrative rights, which I unistalled and reinstalled Photoshop. Two of the times that I uninstalled Photoshop I also used the Photoshop script to make sure all of Photoshop were uninstalled. I have also cleaned the register of Photoshop before reinstalling Photoshop. Another item used to make sure there was no error with Vista was Windows cleanup installed tool.
Yesterday I checked my laptop and I am getting the same results as my PC. The most recent thing that has been updated on both the PC and Laptop was Windows updates and Camera Ram 5.4. Attached is a copy of a wierd result using clone tool. I just clicked on the image and the orange spot appeared. Is there anyone else who is having similar problems with Clone Stamp?Have you applied the Photoshop 11.0.1 Patch?
Have you updated the video drivers?
If that doesn't help, try resetting your preferences as described in the FAQ.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/375776?tstart=0
You either have to physically delete (or rename) the preference files or, if using the Alt, Ctrl, and Shift method, be sure that you get a confirmation dialog.
This resets all settings in Photoshop to factory defaults.
(A complete uninstall/re-install will not affect the preferences and a corrupt file there may be causing the problem.) -
"Could not use the clone stamp tool because of a program error". How to fix this fault?
When I try to use the Clone Stamp Tool I am met with the message shown above. I have tried in all the ways I could find to beat this: different photos, switched the computer off and on again, run a de-bugging program through it (Advanced System Care 5 Pro) and Microsoft's own stuff. The problem exists solidly and, without one of its most important picture repair tools Photoshop is pretty much useless.
I have just set this new Photoshop Elements 10 program up on my Windows 7 (64) laptop. I have plenty of memory and a large enough hard drive; the machine is fairly new, stable and does not usually suffer from programming problems. I have found nothing on any of the Adobe Forums, or in other sites, to give me a hint as to what has caused the problem other than a bad program disk. My first conclusion was that I should reinstall the program, but it appears that I will then lose one of my two registration rights, that strikes me as being ridiculous as reinstallation is surely the most logical thing to do with a potentially faulty program disk! But I would have to uninstall to reinstall, and that's when the the second registration cuts in I am advised. I have tried every way I can think of to beat this to no avail. I'll be truly grateful if someone can help me out on this. Thank you!Thanks guys! I'm afraid that I'm still not sure: I've been told that uninstalling - after of course deactivating - amounts to a life gone... Yet according to the set of licence rules Adobe has, you're allowed to copy programs in a mirror image which, of course, would be used for a clean wipe - and surely that contradicts their set of rules? The rules seem to imply that that would be okay: no life lost. My concern is that through no fault of my own I have what appears to be a duff program; it's out of warranty now (my fault - I didn't install it until I could buy a more heavy-duty laptop). If the rule is "two-strikes-and-your-out, then I lose my last reactivation after THIS installation. I will get in touch with Adobe - but I live in the UK, and therein lies the problem: the equivalent of $39 dollars for the chat and whatever else it might cost is off-putting to me I'm afraid. If I could find out whether or not Adobe has a patch or something I would be a lot more happy about it all - the reinstallation after all may NOT cure the problem and I'd be stuck with a bunch of coffee cup coasters! Hey, ho...
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Why is the clone stamp no longer transparent?
When I try to clone in versions beyond PS3 the clone stamp is not transparent. I can't see what's underneath, it got fuzzy pixels.
How can I set this to behave the way it used to.
Thanks.
MKIn the Window>Clone Source panel you can adjust how the overlay is shown.
For example, i usually have it set to show the overlay, clipped and opacity at 50%.
It's really a matter of preference though, so you might try some of the different settings and see which one(s) work for you
or you can simply turn the overlay off if that suits you. -
PS CC Clone Stamp moving whole image?
I have a problem that I hope someone may be able to help me with. When I use the clone stamp I 'Alt-Click' to select a point to clone from. When I try to actually do the cloning the whole image moves on top of the original image. I knew it would be hard to explain so a make a screen capture video of it to explain Photoshop Problem - YouTube
If anyone knows a cure for this I would greatly appreciate the help. This seemed to start after the last update of CC.
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updaternotifications.dll Adobe Updater Notifications Library 7.0.1.102 (BuildVersion: 1.0; BuildDate: BUILDDATETIME) 7.0.1.102
WRServices.dll WRServices Mon Feb 25 2013 16:09:10 Build 0.19078 0.19078
Required plug-ins:
3D Studio 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Accented Edges 14.2.1
Adaptive Wide Angle 14.2.1
Angled Strokes 14.2.1
Average 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Bas Relief 14.2.1
BMP 14.2.1
Camera Raw 8.4.1
Camera Raw Filter 8.4.1
Chalk & Charcoal 14.2.1
Charcoal 14.2.1
Chrome 14.2.1
Cineon 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Clouds 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Collada 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Color Halftone 14.2.1
Colored Pencil 14.2.1
CompuServe GIF 14.2.1
Conté Crayon 14.2.1
Craquelure 14.2.1
Crop and Straighten Photos 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Crop and Straighten Photos Filter 14.2.1
Crosshatch 14.2.1
Crystallize 14.2.1
Cutout 14.2.1
Dark Strokes 14.2.1
De-Interlace 14.2.1
Dicom 14.2.1
Difference Clouds 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Diffuse Glow 14.2.1
Displace 14.2.1
Dry Brush 14.2.1
Eazel Acquire 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Embed Watermark 4.0
Entropy 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Extrude 14.2.1
FastCore Routines 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Fibers 14.2.1
Film Grain 14.2.1
Filter Gallery 14.2.1
Flash 3D 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Fresco 14.2.1
Glass 14.2.1
Glowing Edges 14.2.1
Google Earth 4 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Grain 14.2.1
Graphic Pen 14.2.1
Halftone Pattern 14.2.1
HDRMergeUI 14.2.1
IFF Format 14.2.1
Ink Outlines 14.2.1
JPEG 2000 14.2.1
Kurtosis 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Lens Blur 14.2.1
Lens Correction 14.2.1
Lens Flare 14.2.1
Liquify 14.2.1
Matlab Operation 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Maximum 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Mean 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Measurement Core 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Median 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Mezzotint 14.2.1
Minimum 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
MMXCore Routines 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Mosaic Tiles 14.2.1
Multiprocessor Support 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Neon Glow 14.2.1
Note Paper 14.2.1
NTSC Colors 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Ocean Ripple 14.2.1
Oil Paint 14.2.1
OpenEXR 14.2.1
Paint Daubs 14.2.1
Palette Knife 14.2.1
Patchwork 14.2.1
Paths to Illustrator 14.2.1
PCX 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Photocopy 14.2.1
Photoshop 3D Engine 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Photoshop Touch 14.0
Picture Package Filter 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Pinch 14.2.1
Pixar 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Plaster 14.2.1
Plastic Wrap 14.2.1
PNG 14.2.1
Pointillize 14.2.1
Polar Coordinates 14.2.1
Portable Bit Map 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Poster Edges 14.2.1
Radial Blur 14.2.1
Radiance 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Range 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Read Watermark 4.0
Reticulation 14.2.1
Ripple 14.2.1
Rough Pastels 14.2.1
Save for Web 14.2.1
ScriptingSupport 14.2.1
Shake Reduction 14.2.1
Shear 14.2.1
Skewness 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Smart Blur 14.2.1
Smudge Stick 14.2.1
Solarize 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Spatter 14.2.1
Spherize 14.2.1
Sponge 14.2.1
Sprayed Strokes 14.2.1
Stained Glass 14.2.1
Stamp 14.2.1
Standard Deviation 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
STL 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Sumi-e 14.2.1
Summation 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Targa 14.2.1
Texturizer 14.2.1
Tiles 14.2.1
Torn Edges 14.2.1
Twirl 14.2.1
Underpainting 14.2.1
Vanishing Point 14.2.1
Variance 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Variations 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Water Paper 14.2.1
Watercolor 14.2.1
Wave 14.2.1
Wavefront|OBJ 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
WIA Support 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
Wind 14.2.1
Wireless Bitmap 14.2.1 (14.2.1 x001)
ZigZag 14.2.1
Optional and third party plug-ins:
Perfect Effects 8 8.1.0
Perfect Effects 8 Filter 8.1.0
Perfect Effects 8 Smart Filter 8.1.0
Plug-ins that failed to load: NONE
Flash: NONE
Installed TWAIN devices: NONE
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1. Went to Apple store and my keyboard and mouse work fine on their inhouse systems running Photosochop CS5. Problem still exists on home system.
2. Adobe photoshop suggested I go back to Mac 10.6.3. I did and problem still exits.
3. Reset all presets in CS5. Problem still exists.
4. Spent several hours with Adobe Photoshop tech on phone -- he couldn't make it work remotely either using his keyboard. Reloaded Photoshop from scratch. Problem still exists.
Question:
Could this be a hardware problem? Graphic board problem?
Or is this a software problem aside from Mac OS and CS5?Hi Joan
It sounds like you are not having fun at all : )
>I talked with a for fee Mac guru today who says I need to wipe slate clean and install operating system from scratch since I did not use time machine.
.....you ever notice how easy it is for a consultant to tell you what to do when they don't have to do it?
..... I wonder why the guru thought your system was gone if your new user account was working?
If your new user account is working.... why not use it? The system seems fine but something went screwy with the settings in your original account.
hopefully someone else will chime in here with more insight before you start from scratch.
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