Cloning Snow Leopard machine and then re-installing Lion
I just purchased a new Mac mini 2.3 ghz, i5, 2GB. Tried using Migration Assistant and I had a number of broken permissions and the new Mac mini ran a lot slower than my old 2.16 ghz Imac. The older machine is set up just like I want and runs fast enough for me at this point. I was thinking of cloning the old machine, overwriting the disk on the new Mac mini and then figuring out how to reinstall Lion to upgrade the operating system back to Lion. How would I go about getting Lion back on the new Mac mini at that point? Do I have to make a startup copy of it or would I be able to download it from Apple?
I haven't been able to just download another copy of Lion for my MBP that came with it preinstalled, not considered a purchase for more downloads.
This question has come up several times and it would be really helpful if you could figure out a way to download a "spare" without having to invoke the internet recovery thingy. I haven't been able to provide a definitive answer, so if you could investigate - possibly check with Apple - and then post the solution, it'd be great! (As an example: out of curiosity and because I have a Genius Bar appointment today and needed to reinstall 10.7.2 for that), I decided to test the USB thumb drive I made this weekend; I also wanted to see if it would work without being connected to the internet. Well, it doesn't - although I turned off WiFi, it turned it back on and downloaded "additional components" for about 15 minutes. Then it installed. When finished, I was only at 10.7, so the additional components were not updates and I had to go through Software Update.
In any case, there simply has to be a way to reinstall without having internet access - what if you're traveling and/or have a dialup connection only (I heard of one download taking 18 hours). Not being able to reinstall "locally" is my biggest beef with this whole new way of doing things.
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I have created a new partition on the Mac HD for Lion as I would like to dual boot. Do I need to install Snow Leopard on that partition before installing Lion? If so, can I use one of my Time Machine backups to do this?
zoominnana wrote:
Can I set up 2 different time capsule backups? one for the lion partition and one for the snow leopard partition?
No, you can't partition a Time Capsule's internal HD. Both partitions will back up to the same sparse bundle. keeping the backups for each partition separate.
Time Machine will not take the two OSX partitions as two different computers, but for best results, exclude the Snow Leopard drive from backups on the Lion partition, and exclude the Lion partition from backups on the Snow Leopard partition.
There may be some files on the Lion partition that Time Machine on Snow Leopard won't like, among other things. See #10 in Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions for details. -
Im running on 10.6.8 On my mac...But i downloaded Mountain Lion recently and theres always an error once i try run it..do i need Snow Leopard 1st and then Mountain Lion..HELP!!
Sorry Josh, I'm having a bad day with my illness.
Can I ask you to repost this question? Might try in the Mountain Lion forum as well as here.
Put "Mountain Lion Install fails" in the headline box, then from your second post -
"When i run The OSX Mountain Lion Icon i downloaded from the App Store it always gets to the point when its about to restart but the it keeps saying "please quit the application and try again" Now i've tried Re-Downloading it a lot of times but that doesn't work"
and add the Mac specification -
MacBook7.1
2GB RAM
Upgrading from Snow Leopard 10.6.8
Sorry I can't concentrate sufficiently today. -
Setting up iCloud email on Snow Leopard Machine and Outlook
HI, all-
I have an older MacBook Air running Snow Leopard that won't support Lion. I've seen two or three posts out there telling me how to set up my iCloud emial on my non-Lion machine, but none of them are working. Besides multilpe password issues, which I'm not getting anymore, I'm now getting "the server returned the error: The connection to the server p02-imap.mail.me.com on port 143 timed out". Any ideas???
Also-the directions for setting up my IMAP iCloud email in Outlook 2007 are very simple and clear, yet it does not work. During 'test account settings' in the account setup, I'm getting two errors:
1. Log onto incoming mail server (IMAP)-the connection to the server failed
2. Send test email message: None of the authentication methods supported by this client are supported by your sever.
Any help would be appreciated! PS- on my MBAir I'm running OSX 10.6.8
Thanks,
ChrisChrisPuentes wrote:
HI, all-
I have an older MacBook Air running Snow Leopard that won't support Lion. I've seen two or three posts out there telling me how to set up my iCloud emial on my non-Lion machine, but none of them are working. Besides multilpe password issues, which I'm not getting anymore, I'm now getting "the server returned the error: The connection to the server p02-imap.mail.me.com on port 143 timed out". Any ideas???
Also-the directions for setting up my IMAP iCloud email in Outlook 2007 are very simple and clear, yet it does not work. During 'test account settings' in the account setup, I'm getting two errors:
1. Log onto incoming mail server (IMAP)-the connection to the server failed
2. Send test email message: None of the authentication methods supported by this client are supported by your sever.
Any help would be appreciated! PS- on my MBAir I'm running OSX 10.6.8
Thanks,
Chris
Port 143 is incorrect, read the instructions contained in the link Julian posted -
I have my complete computer using Lion backed up on the time machine. Then I installed Mountain lion. I do not like it at all. Is there a way I can remove ML and put my old Lion system back pin my computer?
If you have got a backup, press Command and R keys in boot and restore an old backup. You can install Snow Leopard and upgrade to Lion if you haven't got the backup
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I have a Window 7 HP laptop. I want to install Snow Leopard on an external hard drive as the memory space on my laptop is very less. I have the original snow leopard disc and I think it's a retail version . Please guide me through the installation in details. Can you also please let me know about this boot camp.
You cannot. From a legal standpoint, the license agreement for OS X mandates that you run OS X only on Apple hardware. HP is not (yet) owned by Apple.
From a technical standpoint, your HP laptop doesn't use EFI, but rather an early predecessor called a BIOS. Apple is the only vendor of consumer computer hardware that uses EFI; other vendors reserve EFI for use in servers.
Secondly, Apple's operating systems support a rather limited number of configurations of video hardware and mainboard chipsets directly since they need only support those systems that they manufacture. You cannot use Windows software or drivers on OS X, so prior to installation, you would need to write your own hardware drivers for your laptop, create an OS X drive image on a Mac, and then modify that image with your drivers before putting it in the HP.
It will be simpler (and legal), to simply purchase a used Mac. Apple's online store has refurbished MacBook Airs starting at $850 and Mac Minis for $700. If you go to e-bay or craigslist, you'll find used Macs for considerably less. -
HELP!! i have a ton of videos of my boys stored in iPhoto..They played fine on my old OSX system (leopard). However, I just upgraded to snow leopard and then to mountain lion and now i can't open my videos at all anymore. HELP!!
Can you tell us about one or more of the video files - what are they? QuickTime? MP4? Something else? How did you create the video files in the first place?
I do a lot of video and when I upgraded to Snow Leopard I discovered that many of the QT videos that I had created previously (via iMovie & Final Cut) would not play correctly in QuickTime X - the bizarre behavior was that QT X acted as if my video files were only audio files! I reported this to Apple at the time but never heard anything back, and there hasn't been any change in later updates to QT X.
The solution was to (re)install QuickTime 7. But first look in your Applications > Utilities folder. When you upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard, the installer normally moves the old QT 7 program to your Utilities folder. If it's there, try using QT 7 to play one of your video files. If QT 7 is not there, you can download and install it from here Make sure you are running at least OS X 10.6.3 before you install QT 7. It's even better if you make sure you are running 10.6.8 which was the last release of Snow Leopard. -
I just upgraded my MAC from OSX 10.5.8 to Snow Leopard and then to Mountain Lion 10.8.2. When I try to access my Microsoft Office for MAC (2004 edition) files I am getting a message "can't open Office because Power PC applications are no longer supported. How can I access all of my save Word documents? I just want to be able to retrieve all of my documents that were in Microsoft Office for Mac (2004). If I purchase the newest version of MS office for Mac from Apple will I be able to retrieve my old documents?
Use any number of free alternatives to your nearly decade old version of MS Office.
Consider
LibreOffice (donation-supported)
NeoOffice (free)
OpenOffice (free)
In addition to the above I also recommend Apple's Pages ($19.99). I use OpenOffice and Pages and have been completely Microsoft - free for years. Life is better without Microsoft. -
How to do a clean install of yosemite (have Mavericks 10.9.5 now) and then just install certain files, apps, documents, phopt's, etc...from time machine backup?
Do a backup before doing anything.
If you want to make a clean install of Mountain Lion, boot into the Recovery Volume (command - R) on a restart, use Disk Utility to Verify/Repair the disk and run Repair Permissions. Then erase the hard drive using Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format using the Options button. Reinstall Yosemite. Restart normally and test. Use Setup Assistant or Migration Assistant to import what you want.
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Assume I back-up my computer using Time Machine and then decide to uninstall a certain application. If I later decide that I'd prefer to have that uninstalled application on my computer, can I simply restore it from my back-up, or must I go through the entire install process again?
Nobody can help? :(
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Is it possible to install Lion on the second hard disk on my Mini (2010) Snow Leopard Server, and switch between Lion and Snow Leopard? I like those voices Lion has in speech.
When baltwosaid NO emphatically, that was described as CORRECT ANSWER. Ditto in the caeses of the radically different answers from Camelotand Matt Clifton
Could it be that CORRECT ANSWER needs better defining by Apple?
That apart, yes, switching might involve rebooting. About the voices, well, I was the other day adding voice to a commentary in a video I was working on. There's only American English accent in SL — Lion I believe has British ones as well.
Why not, I wondered, try to install Lion purely for academic interest, maybe with an SD card (Sandisk Ultra II, 16GB) as Tom Nelson says is possible at http://macs.about.com/od/macoperatingsystems/ss/Perform-A-Clean-Install-Of-Os-X- Lion-On-Your-Mac.htm -
Just installed mac osx snow leopard upgade and connected my printer too, and realized I have lost sound! Can anyone help?
In case I misunderstood, did you mean that the 10.6.3 version of Snow Leopard was the upgrade? If so you need to update via 10.6.6 to 10.6.8. These updates can correct minor system upsets.
And ... did you also repair permissions both before and after you upgraded. You should do this when you progress via 10.6.6 to 10.6.8 too. -
My MacBook Pro, 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo gives me an error message during Lion install. My Intel Duo Core is not an Intel Duo Core and cannot install Lion. I already have Snow Leopard what is the problem with Lion?
You need a "Core 2 Duo" for lion, and I'm guessing you only have a "Core Duo" My wife's macbook is also a "Core Duo" and has Snow Leapord, but cannot install Lion.....
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I have a new iMac. Can I install my iWork from my Snow Leopard set and upgrade it or will I need to buy new iWork? If so why?
cherylfrommiami wrote:
I paid for the cd set when my last computer needed an upgrade. I just want to use iWork on my new computer OSX10.8
As Niel states you can use your current iWorks.
If you want the latest version you will need to purchase the componets in the Mac App Store. -
Can't install snow leopard on partition after upgrading to lion
I rushed out too early to install Lion via Apple Apps store. Now, I realize that Rosetta is gone and so are my options to use older apps. As I was reading on the web and Apple Support, I have tried various things and get a window saying that I can't install snow leopard.
I have never partition my hard drive, but using disk utility I created a partition called "Snow Leopard." It divided my HD in half which is okay. I closed the disk utility window, rebooted holding down the "C" key, and saw the OS X Install DVD. When I select it a window pops up saying, "You can't use this version of the appl inst Mac OS X with this version of Mac OS X. You have installed Mac OS X 23.1.1."
Before downloading lion, I made a backup of my existing HD using Time Machine to an external HD. When I open up a saved version dated a month ago, I see that the applications that were working in snow leopard now have the icon circle saying that it is not supported by lion. This is strange since I used Time Machine to back up my HD, then turned off the app before downloading lion. Even older versions saved on the external HD show the circle.
I read about lion and the "Recovery HD," but when I hold down the Command-R key nothing happens when I restart my computer. It also talks about using the option key but that does not work. It talks about reinstalling lion using this system, but I don't see it working.
How can I install snow leopard on my new partition, then I would go to "Software Updates," to get the latest version, or use one of the versions on my external HD to have both operating system.
Thanks,
DaisyMayHi Scottiemn,
As I was trying different things to make a partition on my HD, I made notes as to what I did, and I finally got it to work. I will try to explain what I did.
Before installing “Lion,” I backed up Snow Leopard using Time Machine to my external Seagate HD. I installed “Lion,” and found out that I could not use some of my old apps, so I did the following.
Since I am running “Lion,” I opened up disk utility and selected my MacHD (1TB), then I selected partition, and it showed “Macintosh HD” under the partition information name. I believe I selected the plus, + and it divided my HD space in half, and I named it Snow Leopard.
I then installed the Snow Leopard DVD, and restarted my computer holding down the “C” key, I held it down for about 30 seconds or more and then took my finger off of the key. As I waited I finally saw that I was on the install DVD, and on the top menu bar I saw “Utilities.” I had my external Seagate HD mounted on my desk top before I restarted my computer, I selected the “Utilities,” on the menu bar and it gave me the option to back up from Time Machine, I selected my external Seagate HD to the newly created partition I named Snow Leopard and I said “Yes.” I followed the instructions and after it was done, I went to the menu bar and selected System Preferences, System, Startup Disk, and selected to start up with Snow Leopard. On my desktop, I can see two Hard Drives, one is Macintosh HD with “Lion,” and the other is Snow Leopard.
Then, I started up my computer and I was on the Snow Leopard partition and I saw all of my apps working. I then went back to the menu bar and selected System Preferences, System, Startup Disk, and selected to start up with “Lion,” and restarted my computer and I was running “Lion.”
I am not sure why I was not able to use the DVD of SL before, but somehow I got it to work, and I hope that I have explained what I did above.
One thing, when I installed “Lion,” from the app store, I did not make a bootable DVD of the application. I went back to the app store and downloaded “Lion” again and kept it in the dock until I got Snow Leopard to work. I burned a DVD of “Lion,” and so I have a backup of it.
Since my Seagate HD has only 250 GB of space and it is an EIDE HD 7,200 rpm using an OWC Mercury Elite FW400/USB2 with the Oxford chipset 911 enclosure which I bought in 2008, I decided that since I now have my 27 inch iMac quad core i5 with 1TB that I needed a larger hard drive.
I researched the web and decided to go back to OWC and just bought a 2.0TB OWC Mercury Elite Pro “Quad Interface” 64MB with eSATA/FW800/FW400/USB2.0 with 7,200 rpm speed for $219.00. I partitioned it for Time Machine, and Carbon Copy Cloner.
I ran Time Machine, and both partitions “Lion, and Snow Leopard” are on the Time Machine partition and both HD’s are under the Carbon Copy Cloner.
I am self taught on my many iMac’s over the years, and I go to the forums to ask questions and follow the helpful hints to resolve my problems. I carefully try different things and write down what I did so I don’t repeat things.
I hope that I have explained what I did, and hopefully it will work for you.
When I want to run SL, I select in the System Preferences to start up from that disk, when I want to run Lion, I go back and select that and start up my computer running Lion.
Since I have many old apps that Rosetta uses to open them up in SL I wanted to keep that operating system. I will go back now that I have everything working and see if I really need them. I won’t rush to remove my SL partition that I created, but in time if I don’t need the older apps then I may clean out my system and just run Lion.
I run Lion now all of the time, but when I need to go back to SL, I now have the option.
Good Luck,
DaisyMay
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