Closed Caption and FCP 5.1.1

Has anyone had success in capturing footage with closed captioning and then making dubs with the closed captioning attached in FCP 5.1?
I ask because it seems that 5.1 is not recording the line 21 info. I've been able to play back a show that I captured from Beta SP before I upgraded and the CC was displayed. Now when I capture the same footage using FCP 5.1 and the same settings as before, the CC info does not show during play back.
Thanks for any help.

I ask because it seems that 5.1 is not recording the line 21 info. I've been able to play back a show that I captured from Beta SP before I upgraded and the CC was displayed. Now when I capture the same footage using FCP 5.1 and the same settings as before, the CC info does not show during play back.< </div>
This would be bad. There's no reason that the data shouldn't pass, it's just scan line content, but that doesn't mean there's some new ADA or international digital rights weirdness in 5.1, 5.1.1 or QT7.1+ that's stripping it off.
First we've seen of this complaint so we'd depend on you to do more extensive and carefully designed testing.
bogiesan

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http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/32086
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