Closing of 57F4 Challan or Making GR after 180 Days

Hi,
I want to know if we have made a 57F4 Challan and partial material we have received from the vendor and remaining material we have not recd till the specified period of 180 days then how to make the GR after 180 Days or how to close the challan
second scenarion if we have send material to vendor with 57F4 channlan and we have not receievd material with in 180 Dya then how to close the challan.
regards,
zafar

Hi niti,
    Thanks for reply, i want to know even if after 180 days we have not receieved the material and if we want to cancel all the document how is the sequemce and process for it as we have created PO , MB1B, and J1IF01 challan then how to cancel all the documents
and as u have steps for making GR after 180 Days with J1IF this is std. procedure avalibale for this   is there any effect of this on other FI entry etc.
regards,
    zafar

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If S/C challan crossed the 180 day limit..Follow the procedure as below---
1) First Reverse the Excise Duties in T.code J1IF13 by reversing the challan
2) If the material is returned as it is from Subcontractor,then do the transfer posting by 542 movement type.Then reconcile the challan w.r.t. 542 Material Document Number.Then complete the challan In J1IF13 if total quantity is received against the challans.
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case -01 FG material document is posted after 180 days completion after making the challan.
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We had done the following activities :
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   c) Generated a Subcontract Challan
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SAP System is not allowing now GR as 180 days have been elapsed .
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If the allotted number of days elapses and the subcontractor has not returned some or any of the materials in the challan (status: Posted or Assigned), you must reverse the excise duty that you have credited to your CENVAT account.
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We have a requirement of Challan Report, which has been exceed 180 Days and received. Means after 180 days received the material's.
How can i find the received materials list after 180 days..
please tell me table name from which i can refer data and if any standard report exist for this, please tell me...
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Challan No..... Challan Date.....Vendor Code..........Material.........Qty..........Received Date.........Total No. of Days
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I have been using subcontracting process as an alternative for returnable gate pass. Where in we are sending material by 541, doing chalan against that document & then taking material back by 542 & reconcile chalan against document of 542. But in one case it crossed 180 days limit, and now system giving msg as can't reconcile as return date crossed.
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Thanks Jafar,
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Check Account Determination
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