Cloud storage retention policy

I'm confused about what happens to my files in cloud storage if I cancel my subscription.
If I have less than 2 gigs, FAQ says I can access using free membership.
If I have more that 2 gigs, FAQ says it won't synch. What does this mean?
How long do I have to resubscribe and get to my files before they are purged?

Hi Jeffrey,
Welcome to the Adobe community!
1) If you have more then 2 Gigs of files stored then you will have to delete the files and come down to below 2 Gigs in order to use the Sync feature ( in case you cancel the membership).
2) If you have more then 2 Gigs of files stored in that case you have 90 days to come down to 2 Gigs or else you will loose the files from the cloud storage.
Thanks!
Ankit

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Reg retention policy in Windows server Backup

Please let me know how long time the backups will be maintained in Windows server Backup.
Is there any place where I can go and modify the retention policy?

The statements
"If the backup storage location is full, Windows Server Backup automatically deletes the oldest backup"
and
"If you do not delete the corresponding shadow copy, the backup sets will be always reserved."
are contradictory. As explained in the "Overview" section of the source you linked, the first statement is correct. It is not necessary that the server admin take any action to delete shadow copies in order to implement a retention
policy. When the backup destination drive gets full, WSB "automatically deletes the oldest backup version" (http://blogs.technet.com/b/filecab/archive/2009/06/22/backup-version-and-space-management-in-windows-server-backup.aspx)
This all said, this behavior and the source cited are for Windows Server 2008.
The automatic disk space management behavior seems to have changed in Server 2012 (for example see this link: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj614621.aspx). Unfortunately I've not been able to determine
specifically how it is different.

Why do we not receive 5 gb of free cloud storage space for the multiple Apple devices my wife and I have purchased?

Why do we not receive 5 gb of free cloud storage space for the multiple Apple devices my wife and I have purchased? Seems only fair.

logical. fair. I can understand the confusion in policy as another fine cloud service - DropBox - has a different model for increases in free storage amounts for one account = evangelism. As many policies as there are services probably.
cya 'round o' kilted one
CCC

How to add 'Other' cloud storage accounts - alongside Dropbox, Evernote etc in AiO Remote

I wonder if anybody knows what types of 'Other' accounts can be added in the Cloud Storage settings in HP All In One Printer Remote mobile apps. The usual options for Box, Dropbox, Evernote, Google Drive etc are there but there is also an option of 'Other' under the 'Add Account' section.
In 'Other' you are asked for the following details:
Name (An identification name)
User Name
Password
Server URL
I'm wondering whether this is for FTP or WebDAV or HTTP Post etc? I'm hoping the answer is WebDAV. The issue here is that I would rather use a service I host myself than a Public Cloud Service.
Any ideas or assistance gratefully received.
Many thanks,
James

@ClioRoughneck
Thank you for your inquiry regarding the HP All In One Printer Remote mobile app. After explore the app, on both Android and iOS, here is what I found.
The option that you describe is only found in the iOS app. I found the "other" that you spoke about in the settings menu. My understanding of this is that you can connect to a server, etc. Here is what it says in my settings:
Name (My server)
User Name ([email protected])
Password
Server URL (http://host.com)
Please understand that the above example is from an iPad Air running iOS 7.
Hope this helps.
I am an HP employee.
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Problems with Creative Cloud storage (again!)

I am having problems when uploading files to Creative Cloud storage. Some of the files go - some don't, and are flagged 'Unable to Sync'. I have had this problem for some time and have stopped using CC sync, but I thought I would give it another go the other day, and still no luck. The files that are reported as being a problem seem fine - no issue with the names, or anything that I can see.
I spent almost an hour on the phone to technical support about this issue about a week ago and the guys I was speaking to (I kept being pushed on to someone else) didn't seem to have any idea. They just kept going through all my security questions and then put me on hold whilst they asked someone more knowledgeable. They would then come back on and pass me to someone else (more security questions) until eventually the last guy I spoke to said he didn't know the answer and an Adobe representative would contact me in 24 to 48 hours. Not a very impressive turn around for customer support - even less so since it is now a week later and still no call. Let's face it. I'm not going to get a response from Adobe.
As a test, I tried uploading the same files to DropBox. Not very technical perhaps, but I just reasoned that if there were problems with one system, they should show up on the other. Imagine. They uploaded to DropBox no problem.
So the technical fix is forget Creative Cloud storage and use DropBox. Okay, you have to pay for a reasonable amount of storage, but if you depend on your files for your business, it's worth it.
I'm worried though. I'm a big fan of Adobe, and have been using their products for years but am getting concerned that, should I have any problem with any of their CC products their support will be minimal (if I'm lucky) or non-existant (as seems more likely).
As a little extra comment, I have emptied out my CC Storage files (and the archived files) and yet the CC system still says I have 528MB stored - although there is nothing there. I had this once before and the Adobe technical guy reset the system - but it's back!
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE! I just opened my CC storage in a browser and tried to drag and drop the troublesome files directly. And it worked! So maybe the problem is with the CC app. (I have tried uninstalling and re-installing it numerous times). So dragging and dropping is a fix, but not very practical since you cannot drag and drop folders, so you have to create all the folders in the browser version and then drag the files as required.
Anyone got any ideas?
iMac with OS X 10.9, 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM

Woah - Ok so sometimes it's the simplest answer we overlook -- HOW TO MOVE YOUR FILES FROM COMPUTER TO ADOBE CLOUD -- EASILY
(for windows users)
1 - Start menu
2 - Go to Computer - OS ( C:) - Users - "Your Name"
3 - You should see here - the folders you need - Creative Cloud Files - and also - My Docs, My Pics, etc -- The app will not allow this task - windows will
4 - Right click on the source folder - (Pics, docs)
5 - Select copy
6 - Right click on Creative Cloud Files
7 - Select Paste
This will transfer all files in that library to the Adobe Cloud folder and allow them to be synced to the cloud
Hopefully this will save some folks the Head - desks it caused me.

Can i use the retention policy without using the Flash Recovery area?

Yes ,lets see here
RMAN>list backup summary
C:\>dir *.bus
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
File Not Found
C:\>dir *.arc
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
File Not Found
RMAN> crosscheck backup
2> ;
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> list backup summary
2> ;
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7>   allocate channel ch1 device type disk format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
8>   release channel ch1;
9>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
10>   allocate channel ch2 device type disk format 'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus';
11>   release channel ch2;
12>   delete force noprompt obsolete;
13> }
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=24 recid=79 stamp=652108461
input archive log thread=1 sequence=25 recid=80 stamp=652112650
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:05
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
allocated channel: ch1
channel ch1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch1
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           128    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       128    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          79     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC
Archive Log          80     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ARCH_130_ORCL1_20080415.ARC recid=128 stamp=652112652
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_24_408RYXDF_.ARC recid=79 stamp=652108461
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVEL
OG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_25_408X1SCR_.ARC recid=80 stamp=652112650
Deleted 3 objects
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch2
channel ch2: sid=146 devtype=DISK
released channel: ch2
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=146 devtype=DISK
no obsolete backups found
RMAN>
C:\>dir *.bus
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:24 PM        96,813,056 RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
               1 File(s)     96,813,056 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>dir *.arc
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\
04/15/2008 02:25 PM            56,832 ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
               1 File(s)         56,832 bytes
               0 Dir(s) 61,960,724,480 bytes free
C:\>
RMAN> run {
2>   allocate channel ch0 type disk;
3>   backup as compressed backupset database format
4>   'c:\rman_%s_%d_%T.bus'
5>   plus archivelog format 'c:\arch_%s_%d_%T.arc';
6>   release channel ch0;
7> }
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ch0
channel ch0: sid=146 devtype=DISK
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=26 recid=81 stamp=652112703
input archive log thread=1 sequence=27 recid=82 stamp=652112873
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ch0: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSTEM01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\SYSAUX01.DB
F
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\USERS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\ORADATA\ORCL1\UNDOTBS01.D
BF
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\RMAN_135_ORCL1_20080415.BUS comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting backup at 15-APR-08
current log archived
channel ch0: starting compressed archive log backupset
channel ch0: specifying archive log(s) in backup set
input archive log thread=1 sequence=28 recid=83 stamp=652112925
channel ch0: starting piece 1 at 15-APR-08
channel ch0: finished piece 1 at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ARCH_136_ORCL1_20080415.ARC comment=NONE
channel ch0: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:02
Finished backup at 15-APR-08
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_
04_15\O1_MF_S_652112928_408XBKCZ_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 15-APR-08
released channel: ch0
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 1
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           129    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       129    15-APR-08          C:\RMAN_131_ORCL1_20080415.BUS
Backup Set           130    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       130    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_132_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Backup Set           131    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       131    15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\AUTOBACKUP\2008_04_15\O1_MF_S_652112718_408X3ZVJ_.BKP
Backup Set           132    15-APR-08
Backup Piece       132    15-APR-08          C:\ARCH_134_ORCL1_20080415.ARC
Archive Log          81     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_26_408X3HRP_.ARC
Archive Log          82     15-APR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL1\ARCHIVELOG\2008_04_15\O1_MF_1_27_408X8RXN_.ARC
RMAN>Note: i have archivelog which is at FRA ,it also apply there and as well yours own defined backupsets path.
Yours comments are wellcome.
http://oraware.blogspot.com/2008/04/can-i-use-retention-policy-without.htmlKhurram

Hmmm, I can't see where the confusion originates. The table near the bottom of www.apple.com/timecapsule/specs.html has one row labelled "For backup using Time Machine" and another row labelled "For AirPort Disk with a USB hard drive".
The requirement for backup via Time Machine is OS 10.5.1 or better. Time Machine is not supported in pre-Leopard (OS 10.5) nor in Windows.
The requirement for using Time Capsule as a remote disk is identified as "Mac with Mac OS X v10.4.8 or later" or "PC with Windows XP (SP2) or Windows Vista; Bonjour for Windows (included on Time Capsule CD)".
Doesn't that pretty much spell out that Time Capsule works as a network drive without the need for Time Machine?
Also Joe (the OP) never indicated any desire to use it with Windows so I'm not sure why all the discussion about Windows compatibility. ??
Also the quote posted by Henry seems pretty clear:
"Time Capsule with Time Machine in Leopard is the ideal backup solution. But that doesn’t mean Tiger, Windows XP, and Windows Vista users can’t enjoy the benefits of Time Capsule, too. Because it mounts as a wireless hard drive, Tiger and Windows users simply access Time Capsule directly from the wireless network for exchanging and storing files quickly and easily."

Performance Issue when turning on Retention Policy

Hello,
I am currently in the process of enabling retention policy for my organization. We have 18,000+ mailboxes. How much of a performance impact (if any) will it be to the end users if we were to enable retention polices for so many mailboxes at once?
We have not had retentions enabled for about 3 years and the goals to basically delete/purge anything over 15 months. I tried doing some research on this and can't seem to find any topics pertaining to this particular question.
Thanks,
Emmanuel
Emmanuel Fumero Exchange Administrator

The user impact of enabling retention on this many mailboxes at once is not your primary issue - your primary issue will be how long it will take to complete the process on all of your mailboxes so it can "just keep up" from that point onward.
I'll give you some information about our own results and let you decide how you wish to implement retention for your users.
We have 14,000+ mailboxes running on Exchange 2010, fully updated. We migrated three years ago from "another messaging platform" well known for allowing users to have huge mailboxes with little or no capability to restrict how large the
mailboxes grew - and they grew. When I started here, our average mailbox size had just popped over 2GB, and our corporate target mailbox size limit was 2GB. We had mailboxes over 30GB, and messages older than 10 years (our corporate retention policy
states no emails older than 7 years is allowed). We were tasked with implementing retention across the board, with the following settings:
Daily emails will be kept only for 60 days, and can be recovered (if necessary) for another 60 days
Working emails (things needed for projects, etc) can be kept for 2 years, and can be recovered (if necessary) for another 60 days
Messages required for legal reasons can be kept for up to 7 years, and can't be recovered if they are deleted
Messages saved for legal reasons do not count against the 2 GB mailbox size limit
Due to my previous experience implementing retention (when I was a consultant focused on Microsoft Exchange), I knew that deploying to all users at once would cause a hit on our servers (your current fear, and well founded), but I had only deployed to smaller
organizations, and never in so radical a manner - previously, size limits had been in effect, so retention was just to "maintain the status quo", rather than to hack huge amounts of stale data from the system. However, we did have huge servers
(72 GB RAM and 24CPUs, but multirole) that, early on, were not highly taxed (under 15% CPU average during the peak timeframe, and we are in only two time-zones, so all 13,000 users will connect during the 7:00-10:30 Eastern timeframe). So we determined
that we would ramp retention across the organization in the same manner that we migrated - each 1000 users would get retention enabled weekly in a phased manner.
When we started our first group, the IT group (naturally), most users kept their mailboxes relatively small - only 1.8 GB average - so retention ran from Thursday (the day we kicked off the implementation) through the weekend. However, as each subsequent
group was placed into retention, we found that the retention task was taking longer and longer. Toward the end, we had to slip some of our retention groups a day or so because retention for the previous mailboxes hadn't completed. We attribute
this to two factors - 1) the mailboxes were larger on average, and B) there were also more and more mailboxes in retention already that also had to be handled.
In the end, we took 22 weeks to fully implement retention across the organization, and the process took another two weeks to get to the point that is was "running the status quo", rather than yanking huge volumes of stale email out of mailboxes.
During implementation, our servers' performance numbers were good - still under 30% CPU - and users weren't complaining about poor performance due to that (cached mode is a godsend), but getting the process to complete was our sticking point. If
you turn on retention for all 18,000 of your mailboxes at once, you will see some server performance degradation (especially if your servers aren't as beefy as ours), but the process may never have a chance to complete across the board. Our 22 weeks
may well take over a year for your mailboxes.
HTH - you are going to need all the help you can get. (-;

Cloud storage - how can I use my .png file shared in "public mode" like a hosted file ?

Hi every body,
I am french and new on the forum so please be indulgent ! (for my english and my questions).
I am working on HTML signature for my company and I have a little problem.
to be viewed, my .png files needs to be on a server. So I remember that adobe gave me a 100giga storage for me to use.
Cool !
But the problem is that the link only send me to a special view of my file... a jpeg one. So when I try to copy the url I can only use the .jpg
I want my file !
So my question is : is it possible that the cloud storage isn't supposed to share any thing else than a miniature of my file and a download button ?
How can I use it for my signature if I can't acess it but only download it?
Thank you very much for your time
Morgan

Hi Morgan,
You are correct. Public link sharing works as follows:
- you can share a public URL to your PNG file on Creative Cloud. The recipient of the URL can view a preview of the file and download the file in the original PNG format or JPG format.
- it is not possible to give other users direct access to the original file in Creative Cloud.
For more info on sharing and collaboration options:
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/collaboration.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/help/share.html
Thanks,
Elba

1. I have an iPod which has purchases synced with I tunes with an apple ID. I now have an iPad with a new ID for cloud. I have cloud storage capacity of 5gb which came with the iPad. How can I use one ID and store my existing music in cloud?

1. I have an iPod which has purchases synced with I tunes with an apple ID. I now have an iPad with a new ID for cloud. I have cloud storage capacity of 5gb which came with the iPad. How can I use one ID and store my existing music in cloud?

HI Frostyfrog
CHeck out iTunes Match which has an annual fee of £21 or thereabouts. You can store a maximum of 25,000 songs there and they all become available on your other kit, iPhone, iPad and iPod. I know it works as I have over 23000 songs uploaded of which only a few we're bought through iTunes.
it works by comparing your music to the whole iTunes music dadata base so you access the same tunes that you could get from iTunes. If you have obscure stuff, it uploads your own music to the cloud as a copy.
I Find it incredible that on my iPhone with its 16gb memory I can view almost 200 gb of music (ie my 23000 songs) and play any of them. Anything I add to iTunes becomes available via the cloud fairly quickly from a few minutes or a little longer if adding a lot.
The first time you use it it will take quite a while to match your music if you have a lot, but after that it is all automatic. Read the stuff on the apple site. Your PC needs to be at least running Vista. I recommend it and at less than 50p a week it's good value.
Good luck

Cloud storage on multiple devices

Hello, I've been pretty satisfied with Apple, EXCEPT when it comes to cloud storage.
I have three devices:
iPad Retina
My 6 year old daughter has my iPAd 2
and my iPhone.
all devices are under the same account, but every day I get a message stating that my storage is full. and I would need to purchase more storage.
Why doesnt Apple reward or atleast ackkowlege that people with more devices get more free storage???
it used to be that the photos didnt count against you, now it seems that it does.
Very frustrating especially knowing that I cn get 25gigs free from Skydrive.
Any thoughts?

Welcome to the Apple Community.
iCloud space is calculated per account not per device. It's not necessary to use any more space because you have 3 devices than it is if you had one.
Photos don't count towards space used, that hasn't changed.
Sky drive is a completely different type of service, it's not really comparable.

My wifes iphone was too full to record a video so I upgraded her cloud storage to 20g and did mine at same time. Cloud is showing 15g free storage butshe still cannot take any mor photos as "not enough memory" What is the point of paying for the extr

My wifes iphone was too full to record a video so I upgraded her cloud storage to 20g and did mine at same time. Cloud is showing 15g free storage butshe still cannot take any mor photos as "not enough memory" What is the point of paying for the extr

Hello Pushtheriver,
After reviewing your post, I have located an article that can help in this situation. It contains a number of troubleshooting steps and helpful advice concerning iCloud storage issues:
Get help using iCloud storage
This may also help:
Understanding iOS device capacity
You can sync and download many different types of content on your device. Some types of content (such as music and videos) typically take more space than others (such as notes and books). The amount of space taken by an app depends on the app's purpose; complex or graphically intense apps usually take more space than simpler apps.
If your device is near its capacity, you can remove some of the less used content to make room for more.
Thank you for contributing to Apple Support Communities.
Cheers,
BobbyD

HT201318 why is it so difficult to just update my Debit card details do you want to take money from an out of date card for I cloud storage?

what is the use of sending an e-mail with a no reply address?
Telling me you are going to take money from a Debit card that my bank has changed due to a faulty chip?
I go to the control panel to sign in to my account and get told the information of my dream job and street where I grew up is not what you have.
That is being very American Silly as far as I am concerned. I have I phone 4s and I pad with wifi .
I cloud storage wants to take money in a few days time but I can not update my card due to these two issues.
your loss if you make it so complicated to just find the option just to up date a Debit card.
I can do without I cloud storage.

Wizluv Ibrahim wrote:
or I dump de ipad
Knock yourself out.

How do I transfer RAW+jpg to cloud storage under iOS 8?

I want to transfer Canon RAW+jpg CR2 files, imported from the camera via the camera connection kit, from my iPad to cloud storage in Dropbox. Prior to iOS 8, I could accomplish this by exporting from the photography workflow app PhotosInfoPro. That functionality is now broken. The app performs correctly when handling pure jpg files, or handling pure RAW files, but fails when handling RAW+jpg. The operation completes without any error messages, but only the jpg data from the RAW+jpg has been uploaded to the cloud. The RAW sensor data isn't there.
Is there an alternate method to transfer these files from the iPad to cloud storage - either Dropbox or Google Drive? I have tried many different things, none of which were successful. I can get the jpg portion into the cloud, but not the RAW portion. If you know of a method or an app that is performing this successfully under iOS 8, please help. I am at my wits end.

How can I transfer the photos to the Cloud to free up some space?
iCloud does not store photos long term. You can share your photos to your Photo Stream to transfer them, but you need to download them on another device, before you delete them from your iPhone.
Back them up on a computer, before you delete them from your iPhone.
For example, by:
Import photos directly into iPhoto or Aperture on your computer.
Save photos to your computer using iTunes.
Regards

Is Creative Cloud storage a good solution if multiple people have to work on a file?

I am trying to use Creative Cloud storage so that, for instance, a colleague can open an inDesign file from their own workstation, make some simple text edits, and re-save it.
If everyone involved has desktop syncing, is this a workable way to use Creative Cloud Storage? Does syncing work so that the Could Storage would update my local version? Or would I have to download the latest version each time, then work on it, then re-sync?
If this isn't a good way to go about things, does anyone have a better suggestion?
Thank you.

Hi Callofthegame,
One could share a file with others, but each user would have their own copy for their account (which they could in turn share back to others if they wanted). So it wouldn't be a single instance of the file being edited by multiple individuals. Adobe Drive might be closer to what you are looking for - http://www.adobe.com/products/adobedrive.html?promoid=JIKTG
Hope that helps,
- Dave

Control_file_record_keep_time vs retention policy

Its not thread nor question just read from documents and tried to imply the fact of documents and i think its written correct what i tried to do proof it practically ,neither i am trying to be smart just share with you guys is my observation correct or not.i am using FRA area for backup.
<quote>
Relation between RMAN retention period and control_file_record_keep_time
RMAN backup keeps the backup metadata information in the reusable section of the controlfile.Its depends on the parameter CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME. CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME specifies the minimum number of days before a reusable record in the control file can be reused.
In the event a new record needs to be added to a reusable section and there is not enough space then it will delete the oldest record, which are aged enough.
Backup retention policy is the rule to set regarding which backups must be retained (whether on disk or other backup media) to meet the recovery and other requirements.
If the CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME is less than the retention policy then it may overwrite reusable records prior to obsoleting them in the RMAN metadata. Therfor it is recommended that the CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME should set to a higher value than the retention policy.
Formula
CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME = retention period + level 0 backup interval + 1
For e.g.
e.q. level 0 backup once a week with retention policy of a recovery windows of 14 days then in this
case the CONTROL_FILE_RECORD_KEEP_TIME should be 14+7+1=22
<quote>
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 1; # default
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
SQL>
SQL> alter system set control_file_record_keep_time=1
2 /
System altered.
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     1
RMAN> configure retention policy to redundancy 3
2> ;
new RMAN configuration parameters:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
new RMAN configuration parameters are successfully stored
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=126 devtype=DISK
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T185951_3N5T2RTX_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:01:17
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639169270_3N5T598C_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T190313_3N5T94SG_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:01:22
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639169477_3N5TCPVW_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T190500_3N5TDGC9_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:55
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639169556_3N5TG65X_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Archive Log          30     19-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_19\O1_MF_1_1_3N35QQX7_.ARC
Archive Log          31     19-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_19\O1_MF_1_2_3N39LR86_.ARC
Archive Log          32     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_3_3N4RZBXV_.ARC
Archive Log          33     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_4_3N4W8SLF_.ARC
Archive Log          34     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_5_3N4Y1CN7_.ARC
Archive Log          35     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_6_3N4Z6LGF_.ARC
Archive Log          36     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_7_3N53S4XK_.ARC
Archive Log          37     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_8_3N57XHYB_.ARC
Archive Log          38     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_9_3N5C52D8_.ARC
Archive Log          39     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_10_3N5C83YB_.ARC
Archive Log          40     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_11_3N5K9J2Z_.ARC
Archive Log          41     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_12_3N5MMXHO_.ARC
Archive Log          42     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_13_3N5N566W_.ARC
Archive Log          43     20-NOV-07          C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC
\ORC\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_20\O1_MF_1_14_3N5RVB4G_.ARC
RMAN>
Now i just delete alls backup and increase the control_file_record_keep_time 7 which will be more then retention policy redundancy 3
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
List of Backup Sets
===================
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
6       Full    512M       DISK        00:01:10     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 6   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T185951
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T185951_3N5T2RTX_.BKP
List of Datafiles in backup set 6
File LV Type Ckp SCN    Ckp Time Name
1       Full 478504     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01
.DBF
2       Full 478504     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS0
1.DBF
3       Full 478504     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01
.DBF
4       Full 478504     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.
DBF
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
7       Full    2M         DISK        00:00:04     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 7   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T190110
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169270_3N5T598C_.BKP
Controlfile Included: Ckp SCN: 478975       Ckp time: 20-NOV-07
SPFILE Included: Modification time: 20-NOV-07
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
8       Full    513M       DISK        00:01:15     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 8   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T190313
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190313_3N5T94SG_.BKP
List of Datafiles in backup set 8
File LV Type Ckp SCN    Ckp Time Name
1       Full 480265     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01
.DBF
2       Full 480265     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS0
1.DBF
3       Full 480265     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01
.DBF
4       Full 480265     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.
DBF
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
9       Full    2M         DISK        00:00:02     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 9   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T190437
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169477_3N5TCPVW_.BKP
Controlfile Included: Ckp SCN: 480346       Ckp time: 20-NOV-07
SPFILE Included: Modification time: 20-NOV-07
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
10      Full    513M       DISK        00:00:52     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 10   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T190500
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190500_3N5TDGC9_.BKP
List of Datafiles in backup set 10
File LV Type Ckp SCN    Ckp Time Name
1       Full 480415     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01
.DBF
2       Full 480415     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS0
1.DBF
3       Full 480415     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01
.DBF
4       Full 480415     20-NOV-07 C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.
DBF
BS Key Type LV Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
11      Full    2M         DISK        00:00:02     20-NOV-07
        BP Key: 11   Status: AVAILABLE Compressed: NO Tag: TAG20071120T190556
        Piece Name: C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169556_3N5TG65X_.BKP
Controlfile Included: Ckp SCN: 480449       Ckp time: 20-NOV-07
SPFILE Included: Modification time: 20-NOV-07
RMAN> delete backup
2> ;
using channel ORA_DISK_1
List of Backup Pieces
BP Key BS Key Pc# Cp# Status      Device Type Piece Name
6       6       1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T185951_3N5T2RTX_.BKP
7       7       1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S_639169270_3N5T598C_.BKP
8       8       1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190313_3N5T94SG_.BKP
9       9       1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S_639169477_3N5TCPVW_.BKP
10      10      1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190500_3N5TDGC9_.BKP
11      11      1   1   AVAILABLE   DISK        C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\OR
C\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S_639169556_3N5TG65X_.BKP
Do you really want to delete the above objects (enter YES or NO)? yes
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T185951_3N5T2RTX_.BKP recid=6 stamp=639169192
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169270_3N5T598C_.BKP recid=7 stamp=639169273
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190313_3N5T94SG_.BKP recid=8 stamp=639169396
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169477_3N5TCPVW_.BKP recid=9 stamp=639169478
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O
1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20071120T190500_3N5TDGC9_.BKP recid=10 stamp=639169502
deleted backup piece
backup piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\
O1_MF_S_639169556_3N5TG65X_.BKP recid=11 stamp=639169558
Deleted 6 objects
RMAN> delete archivelog all
2> ;
released channel: ORA_DISK_1
allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: sid=126 devtype=DISK
specification does not match any archive log in the recovery catalog
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 3;
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     1
SQL> alter system set control_file_record_keep_time=7
2 /
System altered.
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
SQL>
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T191412_3N5TXRSG_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:01:15
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639170131_3N5V03YT_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T191655_3N5V2S20_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639170261_3N5V462Z_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 20-NOV-07
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
input datafile fno=00001 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSTEM01.DBF
input datafile fno=00003 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\SYSAUX01.DBF
input datafile fno=00002 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\UNDOTBS01.DBF
input datafile fno=00004 name=C:\ORACLE10G\ORACLE\ORADATA\ORC\ORC\USERS01.DBF
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
channel ORA_DISK_1: finished piece 1 at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\BACKUPSET\2007_11_20\O1_MF_NN
NDF_TAG20071120T191836_3N5V5X20_.BKP comment=NONE
channel ORA_DISK_1: backup set complete, elapsed time: 00:00:45
Finished backup at 20-NOV-07
Starting Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
piece handle=C:\ORACLE\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORC\ORC\AUTOBACKUP\2007_11_20\O1_MF_S
_639170362_3N5V7C1K_.BKP comment=NONE
Finished Control File and SPFILE Autobackup at 20-NOV-07
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 3
no obsolete backups foundnothing obsolete it means control_file_record_keep_time will not affect backups unless it will be less then or equal
to retention policy.
Note : Please agree or disagree with me may be i would be wrong
Khurram

Sorry for alls readers after a long practical observation at my own database server i came across that my observation was wrong and absurd in this first post, the above observation is not due to control_file_record_keep_time ,its due to something obvious which i am going to share you guys here.
RMAN> show retention policy
2> ;
RMAN configuration parameters are:
CONFIGURE RETENTION POLICY TO REDUNDANCY 2;
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
RMAN>AS documentation says
"Besides affecting datafile and control file backups, the retention policy affects archived logs and archived log backups.
First, RMAN decides which datafile and control file backups are obsolete. Then, RMAN considers as obsolete all archived
log backups that are older than the oldest datafile or control file backup that must be retained."
Now i connect to SQL and create two big table for filling the redo log file and then get it archived.Please
consider it here that i am getting archived before any taking backup i.e backup database in order to make
archive older then the oldest datafile.
SQL> show parameter control_file_record_keep_time
NAME                                 TYPE        VALUE
control_file_record_keep_time        integer     7
SQL> create table a1 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
SQL> create table a2 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
03/17/2008 03:44 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 03:44 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/17/2008 03:44 PM         9,750,528 O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
               1 File(s)      9,750,528 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,714,875,904 bytes free
Now i take backup
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups found
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARCYou can see the obsolete archived files which is the older then the oldest file which has been obsolete.It also
does'nt make sense to keep the archived log files which is older then the oldest file cause it will no longer
be useful for recovery process.
now back to pavillion
RMAN> delete obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
using channel ORA_DISK_1
Deleting the following obsolete backups and copies:
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Archive Log          402    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC
Do you really want to delete the above objects (enter YES or NO)? yes
deleted archive log
archive log filename=C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELO
G\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_15_3XWLVK6T_.ARC recid=402 stamp=649611842
Deleted 1 objects
RMAN> delete backup
2> ;
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> list backup
2> ;
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
03_17
03/17/2008 03:59 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 03:59 PM    <DIR>          ..
               0 File(s)              0 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,724,440,064 bytes freenow this time what i did i created the archived log files after first backup in order to not to make it older
then the oldest datafile backup.
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups foundnow i come to at SQL and make redo log file filled by creating 2 big tables in order to get it archived
SQL> create table a3 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
SQL> create table a4 as select * from all_objects
2 /
Table created.
C:\>dir C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17
Volume in drive C is khurram
Volume Serial Number is F49D-FF2B
Directory of C:\oracle\product\10.1.0\flash_recovery_area\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_
03_17
03/17/2008 04:09 PM    <DIR>          .
03/17/2008 04:09 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/17/2008 04:09 PM         9,751,552 O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
               1 File(s)      9,751,552 bytes
               2 Dir(s) 62,563,205,120 bytes free
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
Starting backup at 17-MAR-08
using channel ORA_DISK_1
channel ORA_DISK_1: starting compressed full datafile backupset
channel ORA_DISK_1: specifying datafile(s) in backupset
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
no obsolete backups foundYou can see no archived logs get obsolete yet cause the archivelog O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARC
is not older then oldest datafile backup.
But this archivelog file will get obsolete if its beyond the retention policy,lest see how ,just take one more
backup ,as i have already taken two time backup and the moment i go to take third backup it will cross ours
retetnion policy from the period of 2.
RMAN> backup database
2> ;
RMAN> report obsolete
2> ;
RMAN retention policy will be applied to the command
RMAN retention policy is set to redundancy 2
Report of obsolete backups and copies
Type                 Key    Completion Time    Filename/Handle
Backup Set           240    17-MAR-08
Backup Piece       231    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NNNDF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN4WTB_.B
KP
Backup Set           241    17-MAR-08
Backup Piece       232    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\BACKUPSET\2008_03_17\O1_MF_NCSNF_TAG20080317T160604_3XWN6Z95_.B
KP
Archive Log          403    17-MAR-08          C:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.1.0\FLASH_RE
COVERY_AREA\ORCL\ARCHIVELOG\2008_03_17\O1_MF_1_16_3XWNCGRS_.ARCKhurram

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