CMSS 5.1 Analog on a Audigy Gamer, not possible b/c no analog center/sub outpu

Hi I have an Audigy Gamer there is outputs for only 2 analog stereo jacks ( Speaker Set , and speaker set 2) there is no third jack for the that last connector Sub/Center. What gives? I thought the Audigy was compatible with 5. systems? I guess they only mean ac-3 digital audio output huh. If this is the case, what is the cheapest SB card I can upgrade to with the standard 3 sets of analog jacks so that I can get proper full surround with the triple (Green/front pair, black/rear pair, black/center and sub) analog wires?
Thx in advance
-Riddler

Thank you! I had my digital coax connected there with an adapter, but since that can only carry ac-3 and stereo signals im better of using direct 5 chan ( i don?t watch movies on my PC... that?s what the home theater is for) Most games use EAX or some other direct sound, so ill stick with 5. direct analog. who would have thought the digital jack was also for center/sub heh.

Thanks again man!

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Very puzzlingMessage Edited by rjbragg on 03-25-200609:03 AM

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