CO Account Assignment: Profit Centers and Cost Centers Assignment
Hello Experts,
I am trying to understand profit/cost center assignment at the contract level. My client has requirement to assign them based on utility type. So I was wondering should I assign them during move-in at contract? Any suggestions would be of great help.
Thanks.
Kind Regards,
Nikhil J.
Nikhil:
Firstly - the assumption here is that 'utility type' equates exactly to contract or service. If not, then assignment is not appropriate, and should be looked at in the account assignment EK01.
If it is equivalent, then you can use various ways of defaulting depending on the initiator. If CRM, then it can be filled in CRM and passed to ERP or filled by the MDT when bdoc is processed in ERP. If ERP then it can be filled with CMOD enhancement.
There is no configuration for assignment default at contract level, only at charge level.
regards,
bill.
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