CO-PA: COGS accounts created as cost elements

hello,
I have a question regarding COGS accounts, being created as cost elements. This was not causing problems, because client was using real internal orders for profit analysis. In the next phase of project, during implementation of costing based CO-PA, now I have problem, because of this situation, because I can not delete created cost elements (only possible at the beginning of the new fiscal year) , and the system asks for cost object assignment during GI creation. I was considering OKB9 assignment, but I think this will cause double values in CO-PA. Maybe temporary solution, by using real internal orders till the end of the year, and then deleting existing cost elements for COGS accounts, could work?
Please, advise what to do to solve this situation.
Thanks in advance,
Dusko

Hope you are not using account based COPA
To avoid double values in COPA, you can do one of two things,
1) after the costs are transferred to the internal order, you can just keep them there without doing settlement, let the users know that there will be under absorption for the internal order.
2) If the users are not willing to have under absorption in the internal order, you can transfer the costs to a value feild in COPA which is not reflected in the report in KE30 (Remember that you may loose one value feild in COPA this way)
Both make no effect on KE30 report as data will be transfered to COPA at the time of billing
Br Naveen

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