Collage of photos to treat in Camera Raw

I'm creating a collage of 3 or 4 photos that I want to bring into ACR to treat them so they all have the same look. Normally when I do this treatment to a photo I open it as a smart object, make copies, and bring it into ACR a few times for different treatments, then change the opacities and merge them.
Can I take each file, add each one to a new image, do some arranging of them, then bring that collage into ACR multiple times?
Ed

The photos a re not going to be under the same lighting conditions. One thing I do is to take a RAW into ACR and just import to CS 5. Next I make it a smart object and make a couple of copies of it as smart objects. Then I take each one back into ACR separately. I adjust one exposur on one of them and bring it back to CS5, then I adjust the other in ACR to pull out details, I desaturate it completely, add a lot of recovery, add some blacks, then adjust the exposure. Back in CS5 each layer by itself looks pretty bad, but them I adjust opacities and mask out until what I end up with is a very detailed image. I'd like to be able to make those adjustments at the same time, but It would probably be better to have the layer from a baseline image open in CS5 while I workon another one on another screen. One thing I might be able to do is create the collage, save it ad a jpg, and then work on it in ACR, but I think I'd rather do it by comparing images.

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