Collect different messages in a BPM

Hello everyone,
I am new to developing BMPs.
I need to collect 3 diferent message (FTP-File) in a BPM. This is possible?
How do I make the BPM wait until you reach the other message ?
How do I make the second and third message is sent to the same instance BPM?
Thank you in advance
Regards

yes , it possible to collect the diffarent messages using BPM. In bpm we have one concept called Merging two or more messages. using this merge concept we can collect the diffarent messages. for merging two or more messages here one rule u must remember i.e all the messages(three messages) must have one common column than only u can merge , three messages must have one common column. Integration process is like this
1.Three receive step( for collecting three outbond messages).
2. one transformation step( for merging messages)
3. one send step.
u must " correlate" based on context object.
4. u need three abstract interfaces (for outbond messages) and also need one abstract interface ( for inbond messages)
total u need four abstract interfaces.
try this using above information , u must get the output

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