Collect Overflow Type P - Patching? Time evaluation?

Hi Experts!
I have an issue and I need your help.
The client is in the process of patching Development, QA and Production. They have patched the DEV and QA clients and have yet to complete production.
Testing in QA of time evaluation forced retro’d back a couple of years causes the following error (Collect_Overflow_Type_P) :
The ABAP’er came back with this:
I have processed time evaluation (with the log) at specific points in time to try and establish why the SALDO/TES tables are keeling over but I am really struggling to get to the bottom of this.
The issue is not present in production, I am concerned that if production is patched and this issue remains, there will be significant issues for payroll!
Is it a patching issue?
Is it relating to note 1879092
What is SALDO_NEW and is it something to do with this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Will

Hi Inge,
I have had the same issue as you in the past so thats where I started investigating. None of the time types come anywhere near the limits... Thanks for your reply, its a great suggestion!
The ABAP'er is checking with the Basis Team whether note 1942144 has been applied.
Will

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Note -
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Hi
I have a couple of queries on this scenario.
We can do it on the base of base entitlement but there is action dependency then its better to write PCR.
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