Collection of IDoc's

Hi
I have done the Idoc collection as per Stefan's weblog "/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm its generating a one file per each Idoc.What is the problem with this approach.Any clues on this.Under comments section of this Blog the same thing was written by Bhavesh.can any body guide me where i can get the Updated blog of the same and what should i do to get the all idocs data into single file.
Cheers
Tiger Woods

Hi,
1. in transaction We20 (of your R3 system)
in outbound IDOC - did you specify collect IDOC option and not send immediately?
2. and did you set the package size in RSEOUT00
(the last option in this report)?
Regards,
michal
<a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/06/28/xipi-faq-frequently-asked-questions">XI / PI FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions</a>

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When i am generating multiple IDOC for the same message type, i am getting multiple payload for the same as a result i used to get multiple files generated in application server.
Now if i use BPM only to collect multiple IDOC to a file then what all the steps that i need to follow for the same.
Ex: I want to post 10 IDOC for a single IDOC type,, Now using BPM in XI i want to collect all the 10 IDOCs with multiple payload into one single message and then want to process this in XI to generate the file.
It would be glad if anyone refer me a good step by step blog for the same.
Thanks in advance,
Jay

Thanks a lot Abhisek.
I have also got a blog explaining the exact thing. But in the blog the ID part was missing which is present in the link you have provided.
I will be glad if you can through some light on the ID part,, however the IR part and the BPM part is now mostly okay to me.
I will configure this today only,, and may seek your help for any huddle.
Thanks a lot once again.
Regards,
Jay.

Collection of IDOC's and creating file

Hi,
I am working on one scenario collection of IDOC's for 10 minutes and creating file.
When my IDOC's are created in r/3 and reaching in an order and reaching the same order in XI as well,but creating of file for those idocs is not happening in the same order.
Its skipping some of the orders as well while creating file.
Basically i need to create the file in the same order as idocs are reached XI.I am using BPM for collection of IDOC's.
Would request your suggestions.
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Regards,
Chandra.

Hello Chandra,
I am working on one scenario collection of IDOC's for 10 minutes and creating file.
When my IDOC's are created in r/3 and reaching in an order and reaching the same order in XI as well,but creating of file for those idocs is not happening in the same order.
Its skipping some of the orders as well while creating file.
Basically i need to create the file in the same order as idocs are reached XI.I am using BPM for collection of IDOC's??????
Eg: Take a Fallowing Requirement..
For Exmaple A background program should be scheduled to run every 10 minutes to analyse any material records that have been created or changed or deleted that have occurred to the material master records or Customer Records in the last minute.
There are two Message Mappings involved in the whole scenario. First mapping is N:1 Mapping which will be used in BPM and second Mapping is 1:1 Mapping:
1. First Message Mapping  N: 1 Mapping between IDoc (occurrence 0...unbounded in Messages tab) to IDoc with changed occurrence of its top node (IDOC) as 0...unbounded. This message mapping will be used in BPM transformation step.
Description: This BPM collects all Idocs for 10 minutes which are of Message Type (ZMATMAS05) according to Receiver Partner Number (Field RCVPRN) and calls N: 1 mapping to bundle the collected Idocs in a One External Definition for that IDOC.
Use
You use a wait step ( ) to incorporate a delay in a process. Usually, you use a delay to define when the next step in the process is to start. You can define a delay as either a point in time or a period of time.
At runtime, the step waits until the specified point in time is reached or the specified period of time has passed. The system then continues the process by proceeding with the next step.
Go through this Blogs::
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/28/setting-up-inbound-qrfc-queues-for-serializing-idocs-using-the-idoc-adapter
/people/prasadbabu.nemalikanti3/blog/2006/02/24/collecting-and-bundling-vendor-records-from-different-multiple-interfaces-file-systempeoplesoft-and-sending-to-sap-r3-system-part-1
Thanks,
Satya Kumar
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Collection of IDOCs using BPM

Hi Experts,
I am trying collection of IDOCs by using BPM.
I ran into problems and In moni, the error is
<SAP:Code area="BPE_ADAPTER">SYSTEM_FAILURE_INTERNAL</SAP:Code>
<SAP:P1 />
<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
<SAP:AdditionalText />
<SAP:ApplicationFaultMessage namespace="" />
<SAP:Stack>An internal error has occurred</SAP:Stack>
Details of above error in trace is :
<Trace level="1" type="T">--start sender interface action determination</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">select interface BLAORD.BLAORD03*</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">select interface namespace urn:sap-com:document:sap:idoc:messages</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">no interface found</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">--start receiver interface action determination</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">Loop 0000000001</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">select interface UpdatedContracts_abs_idocs*</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">select interface namespace http://com/UpdatedContracts/</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">no interface found</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">--no sender or receiver interface definition found</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="T">Hence set action to DEL</Trace>
<Trace level="1" type="B" name="CL_IDX_IDOC_RESOURCE-GETBLOBDATA" />
<Trace level="1" type="B" name="CL_XMS_MAIN-PERSIST_READ_MESSAGE" />
<Trace level="1" type="T">Note: the following trace entry is written delayed (after read from persist)</Trace>
Here i am trying to collect IDOCs for 5 minutes and i need to send them in XML format. Here i have mapping logic and that logic is working perfectly.
What i am dong is
1. I am sending IDOCs from R3 system to BPM in XI. ( Here to push IDOCs from R3 system to BPM, do we need to do extra ALE settings. Actually With out BPM simple IDOC to File is working fine, With BPM only i am having error. )
2. How to reslove above problem. AS per my understanding everthing is fine.
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Subbu

Hi Rama Subbarao,
Error: Check with your loop condition and process steps.
Collecting of IDOCS using BPM is good, If u want to send the 100 IDOCS per one hour with single BPM it will takes times , Some performs issues and hardware issues are raising.
Suppose if u send 1000 Idocs per one hour it will takes much time.
Other Process:
The collecting of IDOCS it will be downloaded into FILE System.Once IDOCS is downloaded into FILE, it will be not changed the IDOCS.
Using FILE Adapter we send the flatfiles data from FILE System to XI. if u using this process performance wise its very good.
Regards,
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Hi,
I am configuring IDoc to Mail Scenario using BPM.
I gone through following link for develop the scenario. I am still unable to complete the scenario.
Collect Idoc
/people/pooja.pandey/blog/2005/07/27/idocs-multiple-types-collection-in-bpm
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Target is Inbound EDI 810 format send as a email(Mail System).
1. Create an Abstract Interface for Invoice IDoc(MI_IDoc_ABS)
2. Create a Message Interface for EDI 810 for Inbound(MI_EDI810_IN)
3. Create an Abstract Interface for EDI 810(MI_EDI810_ABS)
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a) IM_IDoc_ABS - Outbound Invoice IDoc + MI_IDoc_ABS
MM_IDoc_ABS
b) IM_EDI810_ABS - MI_IDoc_ABS + MI_EDI810_ABS
MM_EDI810_ABS
7. Create a BPM in Integration process. Define 3 Containers namely
a) collectIDoc - Abstract Interface - MI_IDoc_ABS
b) collectIDocList - Abstract Interface - MI_IDoc_ABS(Multiline)
c) targetFile - Abstract Interface - MI_EDI810_ABS
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9. Define a deadline block withing Block with duration = 5minutes
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Use Correlation = Correlation
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Correlation
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Operation = Append
expression = collectIDoc
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Acknowledgement = None
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I don't know, how to go further on these steps.
In addition, could you please validate my above steps.
I appreciate your help.
Thanks,
Gowri

Hi Bhavesh,
Thanks for the directions and help. I appreciate your help. I understand the steps but i am unable to implement it.
I have few more questions on above answer.
a) Do i have to create Sender Agreement?
b) Do i have to import bmp process in Integration Process in Integration Directory?
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1. Create a Scenario EDI810_Scenario
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3. In EDI810_Service, Receiver tab has interfaces defined. MI_EDI_IN and MI_IDoc_ABS. In sender tab, it is INVOIC.INVOICE02 (IDoc) and MI_EDI810_ABS.
4. Define a receiver communication channel CC_EDI810_Receiver(RFC).
5. Business System for SAP is defined in Service without Party.
6. Defined Sender communication channel CC_IDoc_Sender(IDoc)
7. Create Interface Determination (First)
Properties are
Sender Service : SAP Business System
Sender Interface : INVOIC.INVOICE02 (IDoc)
Sender Namespace : IDoc namespace
Receiver Party : EDI810_Party
Receiver Service : EDI810_Service
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MI_IDoc_ABS and IM_IDoc_ABS
8. Create Interface Determination Determination (Second)
Properties are
Sender Service : BPM_IP (Bpm process is imported in Integratio directory)
Sender Interface : MI_EDI810_ABS
Receiver Party : EDI810_Party
Receiver Service : EDI810_Service
Configured Inbound Interface is
MI_EDI_IN. I do not see IM_EDI_ABS in the list. How do i get that.
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Gowri

Call Master_idoc_distribute for collective outbound idocs

Hi All,
I want to process outbound idocs (4 idocs collectively) using master_idoc_distribute FM. I am calling master_idoc_distribute inside a FM and assigned it to process code outbound. It is working for one idoc but not for 4 idocs.
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Thanks

Ok. I guess the requirement was wrongly typed. Ok here is the requirement.
I basically want to take a collective idoc in R/3 and cal master_idoc_distribute to create and send idocs. This is my collective idoc structure.
EDIDC
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Collecting multiple idocs using BPM

Hi,
I have a scenario where idocs sent from R/3 system are collected in Xi and posted as a single message in the file. We have done all the configurations both in XI and R/3 pertaining IDOC.
When we trigger an idoc in the R/3 system,we are able to see the message that IDOC has been sent to XI system. But we are unable to see any of the message transfers in SXMB_MONI.
(In simple words our interfaces are not getting triggered.)
Could anyone help us in rectifying the problem?
Thanks & Regards,
Vishnu.

When you trigger the IDOC from R/3
--Did u complete the configuration part of sending the IDOC to XI, have you created the TRFC POrt in R/3, cross check the RFC dest which you are using here is pointing to Right Xi box?
Your configration looks fine for atleast to take IDOC in XI, rest i am not sure at this point.
---No errors in the SM58 on R/3?
---IDOC metadata is loaded in XI? do u c any entry in the IDX5?
--Is your IS been configured wth the tracle level parameters, if yes set it to 3 value
--is runitme paramter LOGGING, LOGGING_PROPOGATION,LOGGING_SYNC present in SXMB_ADM?
if you have these then atleast you should c an entry in SXMB_MONI with with either sucessfull or failed state.
More importanatly the LS name of the R/3 is according to standards what SAP says in SLD?
Edited by: Nisar Khan on Feb 28, 2008 11:00 AM

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Thanks to all who r giving immidiate response for threads.
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<SAP:P2 />
<SAP:P3 />
<SAP:P4 />
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hi
you are doing the file to multiple idoc scenarios
check the steps
IR
data type
message type
message interface
message mapping
interface mapping
import the idoc in to the external definition
ID
sender and Receiver channel
interface determination
receiver determination
sender and receiver agreement
in the receiver determination give the condition that is create the multiple receiver and give the condition
that is after executing these condition data goes to perticular idoc
and copy the source code in to the source file
and check in the runtime workbench
i hope it will solved
thanks
Regards
vijay

BPM Idoc collection without calling the mapping in BPM

Hi Expert,
I have an IDOC to file scenario in which source side I have to collect multiple IDOC and map it to a single file .I am achieving it through BPM . at present I am using one multimapping and calling this mapping in the BPM under transformation step its working fine but due to some constraint , Now I want to achieve it using BPM but without calling the Mapping in the BPM i.e I don't want to use Transformation step in the BPM. Is it possible ????
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Saurabh

Hi Saurabh,
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Cheers !
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We are using BPM for our interface to collect the idocs,
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IDoc Collection in BPM and Without BPM

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I'm much confused on IDoc collection for which i require your expertise to clear my doubts. My primary question is based on the context "Multimapping doest work with idocs".
consider the case -> collect files-idoc scenario. Using BPM i need to have
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BPM Idoc collection without transformation step

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I have a simple scenario of outbound invoice idocs. The tricky thing now is that I want to collect them within a BPM process.
The BPM is basically working as long as I have a transformation step before the sending wich transforms from a multiline idoc to a "non-multiline" file.
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David

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I tried the ForEach block, but now the BPM is first collecting the idocs and sends them out individually in the send step.
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I needed some help with one of the scenarios with BPM.
We are sending outbound IDOCs from ECC to PI (v7.0 SP14)
Step 1 - Process kicks off from ECC.
1.There are multiple partners in WE20(Configured in WE20) which sends out IDOCs through the single tRFC port(WE21).
Step 2- XI starts to collect the IDOCs from these different partners in ECC(Configured in WE20) using a wait step in ccBPM.
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Hi,
It is wrong forum, please ask your questions to form : Process Integration (PI) & SOA Middleware
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Collecting Idocs without using BPM

Hi Experts,
I am working on a sceanrio, where Idocs are coming from sap and we need to generate a single Flat file out of them.
For this scenario first we need to collect the Idocs and then process them to make a single file output.
To achieve the same I am using the BPM to first collect the Idocs and make a packet out of them and then processs it to generate a single flat file.
Can someone please suggest me that, How can we achieve the same without the BPM.
If yes, how can we do that?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Pradeep

Pradeep ,
Option 1 : /people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
here you collect them as a file and file is picked up and sent to the target
Option 2 :
in WE20 in ERP set idoc package to 50
in XI sender idoc channel - package to 50
XI will receive 50 IDOCs at once...
(courtesy Michal....till then i thought there is no sender idoc adapter )
Option 3 : collect using BPM.
Option 4 : This is what i woould suggest....no need of collecting you can send one idoc at a time generate the file.....why do u want to collect?
Edited by: Tarang Shah on Mar 20, 2009 7:38 AM

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