Collective Order for Phantom Assemly

Dear Team
I my company we have batch determination as well as batch derivation. Also on FG & SFG level different order type. Now we have scenario that A1, A2, A3 material having common bulk component. Where as A1, A2, A3 are vial packing strengh. Here is probelm that if all BOM component of A1,A2, A3 are available then bulk process order will get release & wise versa else error.
Now i wish to adopt the collective order scenario with phantom assembly. Here i will create one phantom material code with BOM component as A1,A2,A3... Will it work for me in collective order scenario with different order type?. IF yes then please guide me how i can configured this in SAP.

Hi Nivedita,
Question is not clear....A1,A2,A3 are FG products which have common SFG as a input material ?
map like this... bulk material SFG will have raw materials in it's BOM...Now FG material will have SFG material and other packing materials as input materials in the BOM....now make the setting in such a way that during process order release if components are not available system should not release the order...make settings in OPJK in configuration...
Thanks
Kumar

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