Collective order processing

I have gone through the threads in w.r.t collective order and direct production. the sap help (IDES too) and the ERP documentation. I still cannot trigger get a process order to be directly created for the subcomponent when I convert the parent planned order (superior planned order).
My BOM structure is the standard FERT-HALB-ROH.
I have setup sp proc key 52 for the halb, BOM and recipe are valid and they are linked to a prod ver. I see a DEP req for the FERT material in the HALB's MD04 screen after I run MRP for the FERT.
I know this setup works for production order. I am however trying with "process orders" since this is required for a PI based inventory. Is this possible?

Dear colleague,
Which transaction do you use?
The conversion should be possible.
Please use COR7 and COR8.
we usually recommend not to use PPBICOR8 for collective orders,
because the program flow logic is different from planned order
conversions that do not result in a collective order. For example,
in dialog mode, you usually receive the collective order overview,
in batch input mode (PPBICOR8 is a batch input for COR7), you don't.
PPBICOR8 cannot distinguish between collective orders and non-collective
orders when the batch input is set up for the planned order conversion -
at this point, it is not known if the resulting order will be a
collective order. This is why PPBICOR8 should not be used for
collective orders.
Please apply the attached note 974946 to suppress the pop-up.
If the issue persists, please open a new OSS message with this issue,
thanks and best regards

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the issue is related with collective order confirmation.
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Hi,
How to trigger the creation of Collective orders.
regards

Hi,
Collective Orders
Use
In a collective order, planned orders or production orders are linked to one another over several production levels. Each order in the collective order has its own order number. If subassemblies are produced directly for superior orders within a production process, without physically entering the warehouse, it is useful to have a representation via collective orders.
The components for which separate production orders are created in the collective order are called directly produced components (see Creating Collective Orders)
Prerequisites
A collective order cannot be created for components that have one of the following indicators set:
· Co-product
· By-product
· Alternative item with strategy 2
· Alternative item with usage probability 0
· Discontinued
· Follow-up material
· Intra material
Features
Collective orders offer the following advantages:
· Integrated view of a production process
Collective orders make it possible to represent different levels of the production process together in the system. The production process can be viewed as an integrated whole.
· Separate order number for every order
Every level in a collective order represents a separate production order/planned order. Every production order/planned order has its own order number. This enables you to process the entire collective order, a subtree in the collective order or an individual order.
· No placements in storage or removals from storage between production levels
Within a collective order stock movements only take place for the leading order (that is, the order that is at the highest production level) and not for directly produced components. This makes it easier to maintain the collective order in comparison with several individual orders. A further advantage is a more realistic representation of the costs of the production process, since subordinate orders can be directly assigned and settled to superior orders.
· Business functions simultaneously for several orders
Certain business transactions can be carried out simultaneously for several orders. Releasing an order that belongs to a collective order has the effect that all the hierarchically subordinate orders are released simultaneously.
· Automatic change to dependent orders
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¡ the relevant quantity changes are automatically made to dependent orders
¡ the requirements quantity of the directly produced component is automatically changed.
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· Set status in leading order
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u2013 CFCO Confirmation in collective order
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· Reading master data
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You want to produce a pump. The BOM for the pump contains a pressure regulating valve and a spiral casing. You want to enter these two components in separate production orders, but you do not want them to be posted to stock.
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Collective orders are only created if the special procurement type is set to direct production in the components for which the separate production orders are to be created (materials planning area in the material master).
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While cancelling collective orders, all the input materials for main and sub orders were returned back (with 262 movt.)
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Hi venugopal,
Thanks for u r response.
but it is not allowing to delete from sub order level.
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i have a problem while dealing with collective order network schenario.
i have 2 levels of collective order network e.g. A is parent order and B is child order.
now as soon as i confirm the sub\child B order the header material for taht perticular order has 101 and 261 movement automatically,
i.e. as soon as 101 is done for child order's(B) header material which is a non stockable material is also gets consumed(261) for header order\ parent order A.
but while confirming the header order A, the header material of order B(which is non stockable material) is not there in goods movement screen.
now while cancelling the orders A i don't have order B's header material in component list so that perticular material will not be cancelled so no 262 for that material.
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Edited by: Anil Jonnalagadda on May 23, 2008 3:38 PM

Now the Reply for the Application of Collective Order
Normally we have a Header Item Fert and Child items Halbs
For Example If a BOM for a Fert contains 5 Halb materials and below some ROH
Here what happens in discrete scenario 6 production orders can be created 1 for Fert and 5 for Halb
so as a usual practive we have Release the Halb orders, GI for ROH , Confirmation of Halbs,GR for Halbs,.... then
similar thing for Fert
Now as the Halb is inhouse item and manufacturing parellely, the process of Relasing ,confirming ,GR are difficult process, you want to control through the Header Material
So we want
1) If i release the Fert Material the Bom Assy components (inhouse) below with collective order setting has to Relases Automatically
2) If i confirm the Fert Material the the Bom Assy components (inhouse) below with collective order setting has to Confired Automatically
3) The GR has to takes place automatically for Halb items(without any document) you can't see the stock of halb also it will always show "0"
4) For the ROH below Halb a reservation will be generated those you can control manually or through Backflush
So the setting required is
Fert item keep Procurement =E
For the bom halb items where you want collective order keep Procurement =E and special Procurement =52
it will work
thanks
Prabakaran K
Edited by: prabakaran k on May 23, 2008 4:00 PM

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Hi Carina,
It might take some time for the attribute change run.
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2)kill the job and run att change run manually.
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i inserted in the HALB component the special procurement (52) and the Type procurement = E
I created a production order for the Material Fert and the system create a collective order .
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Can somebody explain the business scenario associated with collective orders? why we need collective orders? what is the business requirement that calls for collective orders?
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A collective order is a linking together of planned orders or production orders over several manufacturing levels.
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I my company we have batch determination as well as batch derivation. Also on FG & SFG level different order type. Now we have scenario that A1, A2, A3 material having common bulk component. Where as A1, A2, A3 are vial packing strengh. Here is probelm that if all BOM component of A1,A2, A3 are available then bulk process order will get release & wise versa else error.
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Hi Nivedita,
Question is not clear....A1,A2,A3 are FG products which have common SFG as a input material ?
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