Collective orders issue
Hi Gurus,
There is an issue with the collective orders for our client. For the child orders the Plan and actual are coming same. And for these child orders GI and activity booking is done but GR is done at the Parent order level.
Pls tell me at this point how the plan and actual are equal for the child orders.
Regards
Dinaker
I want to explain this more clearly.
we are using collective orders and planning strategy 10.
Say we need 1 roh to produce 1 halb
and need 1 halb to produce 1 fert.
target qty =100 say
MRP run
Production order qty for fert 100
production order qty for halb 100
purchase req qty for roh 100
say GR for roh qty 50
we confirmed qty of halb = 50 i.e:partially confirmed
Now went to fert order and will be able to confirm 50.But this is not happening.User is able to confirm 100.
we should be able to confirm only 50 since we have halb=50.
How to restrict this.he should be able to confirm fert qty 50 since confirmed halb qty is 50.
Could you please tell me what config setting i should do and where.
thanks
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In a collective order, goods movements (GI & GR) are usually not required for assemblies that are directly produced.
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Dear gurus,
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for the component HALB the system when create a subnetwork view the stock quantity?
Example:
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PP TEAM -
I have gone through the threads in w.r.t collective order and direct production. the sap help (IDES too) and the ERP documentation. I still cannot trigger get a process order to be directly created for the subcomponent when I convert the parent planned order (superior planned order).
My BOM structure is the standard FERT-HALB-ROH.
I have setup sp proc key 52 for the halb, BOM and recipe are valid and they are linked to a prod ver. I see a DEP req for the FERT material in the HALB's MD04 screen after I run MRP for the FERT.
I know this setup works for production order. I am however trying with "process orders" since this is required for a PI based inventory. Is this possible?Dear colleague,
Which transaction do you use?
The conversion should be possible.
Please use COR7 and COR8.
we usually recommend not to use PPBICOR8 for collective orders,
because the program flow logic is different from planned order
conversions that do not result in a collective order. For example,
in dialog mode, you usually receive the collective order overview,
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collective order. This is why PPBICOR8 should not be used for
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Dear gurus,
i inserted in the HALB component the special procurement (52) and the Type procurement = E
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Where we can find the information of this collective order ?
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PP TEAMDear,
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