Color Bars and Monitor Calibration

Hy,
Trying to calibrate my monitors using the FCP internal color bars is completely different from using the camera's color bars...!
What is your experience in that?
I absolutely dislike the image I get on my monitors when I try to calibrate it with the internal Bars. Actually I almost can't get the lower right, light gray stripe come visible. I have to push the brightness to the maximum and the image is terrible.
On the other hand, using a recorded camera's bars, it looks nice.
What's up?
I'm using a PAL sequence by the way.

Luis
Are you saying you are using PAL clour bars to adjust your Mac computer displays?
If you are, then that is wrong
You can only calibrate computer monitors using a computer display profiling system using a probe.
such as:
http://www.gretagmacbeth.com/index/products/productscolor-mgmt-spec/products_cm-for-creatives/productseye-one-display.htm
If you are adjusting a PAL monitor, you should use, preferably a test signal generator, or the bars connected direct from the camera to the monitor
Dont use Final Cut Pro or bars recorded to tape as the test signal, you must iliminate any interference to the signal caused by misaligned electronics.
G

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