Color Cast Removal in Aperture
In Photoshop, I can usually remove a color cast using Image > Adjustments > Auto Color, but I can't find any similar easy way to remove a color cast with Aperture. Has anyone found a way to do this? Thanks.
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)
Good luck! The white point tool is pretty much broken.
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Here's the one that's been auto color corrected:
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Thanks for your suggestion. I've gotten pretty good using the hue/sat sliders to tweak colors, particularly for adding some punch to washed-out skies.
You can think of the tool I'm requesting as a slider that lets you adjust between no adjustment and hitting "Auto Levels—Separate", e.g., pushing that button 1/4 or 1/2 the way down. You can accomplish the same thing by monkeying with levels for each channel or using the color tool as you describe, but a simple slider for removing color casts seems more straightforward.
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I am looking for tutorials that show how to do a couple things, first I would like to be able to remove any color casts. In photoshop to do this you can use a curves layer and use the set white point color picker and click somplace that is supposed to be white. and in premier you could do something similar using the Fast Color Corrector. So basically I am looking for a way to target an area in a frame that should be grays, In Anime, the eyes generally will always be shades of gray, so that is what I would target usually when working with anime in photoshop/premiere. If anyone knows of a tutorial that shows how to do this type of color cast removal color correction in SpeedGrade could you please share a link.
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How to easily spot color cast in aperture
Hi,
I am having difficulties to properly spot/analyze a color cast in my (scanned from color negatives) images. There is no neutral grey or white present and I'd like to get a handle on correcting this color cast without just trial and error (and making things worse)
Any hints or ideas? Pointing me to a resource on the web to find out how?
(Spotting and correcting the color cast in my scanning software (Silverfast Ai) didn'd work as well)
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RolfHi Rolf -- you're question is not really answerable. Color is almost entirely subjective -- we color our world in our brains, and then we make machines to mimic this (digicam sensors don't record color -- they record luminance as filtered through known colored gels). Your question presumes an objective standard of color correctness. That does not exist.
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i took some photos with a Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG with a canon 5d mark 3 and mark 2
and i noticed some magenta color cast
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Hello,
Hoping someone can help. I'm trying to "remove color cast" with TIFF images and I'm not seeing the option as available. It works fine when I try to use it with JPEG images.
To be clear....I'm using PSE 8...after opening a picture (of course), on the top menu "Enhance", then "Adjust Color". When I'm working with a TIFF image the option "Remove Color Cast" is not available/active. It works fine with JPEG images.
What am I missing?
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Message title was edited by: Brett NThe 'color cast' correction I mentionned above is really the simplest, 'one click' tool in Elements, but there are other ways.
My favourite one is to open the photo (even jpegs) in ACR. Then you have the same interface than with raw file, and the temperature and tint sliders.
The advantage is that once you have corrected one picture (also a one click sampling of neutral white/gray), the settings can be used for the next picture. You can correct a batch of images rapidly.
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To open a jpeg in ACR, use 'Open As' instead of 'Open' in the editor. On the bottom line for the file format, select the 3rd option 'Camera raw...' not the first 'Photoshop raw'. -
I'm printing from Aperture to an Epson R800 and the prints come out with a very strong red/brown color. Its not like a subtle cast from, say a miscalibrated monitor (monitor is a Dell 2407 WFP A02 calibrated with a Huey pro).
I have the following relevant settings:
Printer profile: SPR800 prem glossy
Media Type: premium lossy photo paper
Advanced/Best photo/Gloss on.
AFAIK these are the correct settings.
I spoke to Epson who suggest I use colour controls to correct the color cast - what price colour management!first tested Lightroom 2.1 and it works as it should so does PSE4 but not PSE6
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Finally a couple of replies from Adobe re colour problems and they have accepted that they are double managing the image and that I should use printer management to do the colour conversion.. here are their two replies and the comment that they will now drop me until???????
Answer #1 Your Customer Service Number is: 129800224 PSE6 Mac Printing Colours darker than PSE4 - Adobe accepts fault
My work requires that when I create prints for artists I must replicate all the prints exactly everytime. It worked perfectly from PSE2, PSE3 and PSE4 but now......
I am unable to replicate quality of printing on MACOSX PSE6. it works great on PSE4. I mailed some printed images on art paper to adobe in amsterdam and a cd with the same images. After weeks of discussions phone, email and after testing using their work flow....they came back with some answers.
Finally a couple of replies from Adobe re colour problems and they have accepted that they are double managing the image and that I should use printer management to do the colour conversion.. here are their two replies and the comment that they will now drop me until???????
Answer #1 Your Customer Service Number is: 129800224 Thank you for contacting Adobe Technical Support. After consulting with my colleagues about the issue you raised, I can let you know the following: The issue is both on our as well as the driver software side and the workaround we have given is the best available at this time. This issue is affecting all printers, not just Epson or Canon. The soft proofing effect that you are seeing in the print preview is indeed an attempt at soft proofing. However since Photoshop Elements managed prints are incorrectly double colour managed it is not as useful as it was initially designed. As to the exact details of why this occurred, we have no official information. We believe that this will resolve the issues you are experiencing, however, should the reply not help solve the problem, please contact us again, quoting the case number given above, and we will re-open the case.
Answer # 2 Subject: Re: Adobe TS #180107025 / Mario / PSE6 oversaturated Print (KMM3793441I51L0KM) Dear Mr. Laugesen, We have had word back from our engineers regarding your issue. The Photoshop Elements team are aware of the problem and are working with Apple and the printer manufacturers to get this to work correctly. In the meantime, the only workaround is to switch off colour management in Photoshop Elements and let the printer handle the colour management. Unfortunately we can not make an estimation as to when a fix will be provided. We will close the case for the time being as there really is nothing more we can do about this issue besides offering the suggested workaround. Closing this case does not mean that the research will stop however and the engineers are working on a solution to this. Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.11) epson R2400 -
I am using a Huey Pro to calibrate my monitors for use with Aperture. After calibration both my MacBook Pro and iMac have a very red color cast.
Thanks,
Kenhave you tried reporting this on the pantone support site - if you do a search there, you'll find a couple of problems mentioning the same thing your seeing.
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Panasonic GF1 horrible color cast
It seems that Aperture has some serious issues with a magenta color cast when converting GF1 RAW files. It's not so apparent with 100-200 ISO (but still there, especially whith large white balance shifts) images but once you get to ISO 800 the images become unusable.
The color cast is mostly apparent in the dark(er) parts of the image.
Check out the following links to some quick test images that illustratie the problem perfectly. The first link is the image developed in Aperture (latest version) with the white balance set on the white wall in the background. The second link is the same image developed through the latest Camera Raw with the white balance set in the exact same spot.
http://www.benoitvermeeren.be/forumpics/GF1_1704.jpg
http://www.benoitvermeeren.be/forumpics/GF1_1704CRaw.jpg
The Camer Raw image is perfect. Is anybody else seeing this issue with the GF1 (or other Panasonic cameras with similar sensors). It makes using the GF1 with Aperture impossible.
It's quite unfortunate as Aperture performs great with my D700 images and I really don't want to switch to Lightroom because it's horrible as a library management application compared to Aperture (altough Camera Raw is giving me better results and noise reduction, lens correction and split toning are great, but I digress...).
Also check out this thread for a similar experince with the GH2 (+4 months old):
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1041&message=37849807&chang emode=1
The people in that thread have sent feedback to Apple and AFAIK this hansn't been resolved yet so I'm not getting my hopes up.Raw files are not visible. They must be converted to an image file format in order to be seen. This is done in-camera for display on the LCD screen, and for export of JPG (or other) files. For almost all cameras, any processing which changes the appearance is done to a JPG file.
When you import raw files +you do not get the JPG processing+. That's what raw is -- it's the light information prior to being converted to an image format. (The are enormous advantages to having this data available.) That is why your raw file previews are in color.
There are a number of monochrome and grayscale conversion presents in all raw development programs. It is generally accepted that these do a better job than most of the in-camera converters. There is no question that they give a choice among many -- as well as the ability to tweak them to your heart's -- or your printer's -- content, unlike the baked-in conversions done in-camera.
In short, raw is never black & white or monochrome. Adobe has a good older white paper on raw which is worth reading: +Understanding Digital Raw Capture+.
OS X is working correctly. -
Pentax K-x RAW color shift problem with Aperture 3
I have seen a few posts similar to what my problem is but not exactly.I have two Pentax K-200D's and a new Pentax K-x. I shoot RAW with all of them and the K-200D's work great. The RAW files however from the K-x are doing something strange. Sometimes (more and more though) the files are being imported into Aperture and there is a radical color shift after they finish loading. ALL of the preview thumbnails look fine in the camera and the Aperture import window. However, after importing them and processing is complete, some of the shots have a magenta color shift, but most that have this problem shift radically to a green tint. Everybody looks like they are in "The Matrix."
I do not have any brightness correction on the camera turned on as other posts imply might be the problem. I have also remove the Aperture RAW 3.2 and tried 3.0 and 3.1 with no solution. 3.0 doesn't recognize the files at all and 3.1 does the same thing as 3.2. Here are two examples of UNEDITED RAW files:
Frame that looks fine in RAW
http://gallery.me.com/mattcline#100470/IMGP5982&bgcolor=black
The next frame taken with the same settings on the camera:
http://gallery.me.com/mattcline#100470/IMGP5983&bgcolor=black
I do have one possible pattern. I had the camera set on rapid fire capture. It appears to me that the first frame I take when the shutter button is depressed looks and translates fine. All the subsequent frames take in rapid fire under the same shutter release have the green shift when taking shots in relative shade. Things taken in bright sunlight have the magenta shift.
Any ideas on what is going on or how to fix this?
Thanks.kb8wfh wrote:
I just downloaded Apple's RAW 3.3 and it still made no difference.
Going back over the files, I found that going back and forth between the two, see no difference in the RAW processing headings. I did see however that in the meta data that the two pictures I have in the example of those listed above have one difference. There is a setting on the Exposure Bias for the one that was fine was -0.3 ev and the one that has the green contrast blast has an Exposure Bias of 0.3 ev. So the one that looks right is slightly negative. Doesn't seem like that should be a big difference, but apparently it is.
I did take some pictures with the RAW+JPG setting and I had the same problem with the RAW files. Some were ok, some were green, others were magenta shifted. However, all the JPG files looked just fine.
Switching from Aperture isn;t really an option for me. I have been using it for a long time and it generally works very well...perfectly with my K-200D's. It's just some bug with the RAW decoder for the K-x.
It's a known bug and I have been in touch with Apple staff over it, including engineers. It's not just the K-x. Other brands (Canon) and models suffer from the RAW processor gone wrong.
Right now there is no fix. At the pace Apple works at, there may not be one for quite some time. Use JPEG, use iPhoto, or move to Lightroom.
Another suggestion is to phone customer service and complain that their "Pro" program is not working as expected. I spent hours with an engineer going over the issue including a screen share session, only to be told to use JPEG.
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