Color changes between Lightroom and Photoshop Elements

I have a new monitor and I have the SyderPro4 calbration software. My monitor is the Dell UltraSharp U2713HM. When calibrated with the Syder my colors are different when I go into different programs. The same photo looks different in Lightroom than it does in Photoshop Elements. When I export the picture from Lightroom to Elements the picture becomes very orange. I have already talked to Dell and to Datacolor about my issue and they both are telling me this shouldn't be happening. When I uninstall my calibration software my problem goes away, and the colors of the images stay consistant between the two programs. Does anybody have any advice to what maybe wrong?

How do you export to Elements? Directly from Lightroom? If so, what profile are you choosing? What resolution are you specifying? I normally use proPhoto RGB which is the profile that LR more or less uses internally and 330.

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Can the catalog be shared between Lightroom 2 and Photoshop Elements 10?

Lightroom and PSE cannot share catalogs (although the same image can be in both)
PSE catalogs can be upgraded to Lightroom catalogs, but then changes made in Lightroom are not reflected in PSE. You cannot go the other way, Lightroom catalogs cannot be converted to PSE catalogs.
Lastly, I strongly recommend that you use only a single "organizing" application. The idea of using two (or more) different "organizing" applications will lead to confusion and errors and lack of synchronization.

Colors are different between Lightroom and Photoshop Elements

I have a new monitor and I have the SyderPro4 calbration software. My monitor is the Dell UltraSharp U2713HM. When calibrated with the Syder my colors are different when I go into different programs. The same photo looks different in Lightroom than it does in Photoshop Elements. When I export the picture from Lightroom to Elements the picture becomes very orange. I have already talked to Dell and to Datacolor about my issue and they both are telling me this shouldn't be happening. When I uninstall my calibration software my problem goes away, and the colors of the images stay consistant between the two programs. Does anybody have any advice to what maybe wrong?

I am having this problem too.
my site www.redsmartie.com looks fine on everyone elses computer but on mine the red background #660000 is not displaying right on the jpg images
see here http://homepage.mac.com/redsmartie/colourerror.png
I have rgb colour profiles managed by a Pantone Huey device and haven't previously noted a problem. This was added recently so I recreated the images which corrected things on my screen but made the red around the images too dark for everyone else.
The images were created in Photoshop so I changed the photoshop profile back to CinemaDisplay that it previously was on and now everyone else is ok but my screen shows the red around the images much to light.
I really need some help with this as its a disaster waiting to happen on work I do for other people, especially if I'm producing work that looks right on my setup but is wrong for everyone else!
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Link between lightroom and photoshop elements

Hello.
A few days ago I installed photoshop elements 6 on my Leopard 10.5.3 instance. I have also Lightroom 1.4.1 installed, but he/she doesn't seem to detect the elements installation. I can't do an edit in photoshop.
With which mechanism the Lightroom program detects if there is any photoshop installed?
Should I use the alternative editor path to call Elements 6? And if so, will I have the same functionality then?
Is the direct link only there for CSx?
In order to test in a "clean" environment, I have made a fresh installation of Leopard, Photoshop Elements and Lightroom on an external disk, but even then Lightroom doesn't detect Elements 6.
However, if I install Photoshop Elements 4, everything works fine.
Any help is much appreciated!!
Marc.
PS: this tech note doesn't help me - www.adobe.com/go/kb401629.

Kenny,
1) There are known problems of LR not recognizing Photoshop CS / PSE automatically as present. Uninstalling and reinsalling PSE might help.
If now successful, and if you're on a windows system, adding the following key to your registry might solve the problem:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Photoshop Elements 8.0\\PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe"
"Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Adobe\\Photoshop Elements 8.0"
2) You can have as many external editors as you like. Go to Preferences/External Editing, setup the executable and format you want to pass to it, then do a "Save Current Settings as New Preset". This will establish an additonal external editor for LR.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

Hi I have the old photo shop elements 10 on my computer and want to update and was wondering what the differences between photoshop, lightroom and photoshop elements are? Also when I upgrade does it have to be with a monthly membership or can I just purch

Hi I have the old photo shop elements 10 on my computer and want to update and was wondering what the differences between photoshop, lightroom and photoshop elements are?
Also when I upgrade does it have to be with a monthly membership or can I just purchase the product out right like you use to be able?

You cannot "update" from what you have to any of the applications you mention. It will have to be a straight purchase or subscription at full price.
Photoshop is a professional level application that makes no apologies for its very long and steep learning curve.
Lightroom is all about volume, and very light editing.
The Photoshop Elements forum is at:
https://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop_elements/content
Remember, you are not addressing Adobe here in the user forums. You are requesting help from volunteers users just like you who give their time free of charge. No one has any obligation to answer your questions.
I do not know where there is such a comparison table as you seek, but someone else might, or you can google.

Color spaces in Lightroom and Photoshop

I read that Lightroom uses the large ProPhoto color Space and then again, that it's gamma curve ist close to sRGB. So what is my color space when working in Lightroom? ProPhoto, or sRGb, or something else?
And what kind of a color management workflow between Photoshop and Lightroom do you advocate? Using ProphotoRGB or sRGB as color work space in Photoshop? I used to work in AdobeRGB in Photoshop. Has this to be changed to gain maximum color consistency?
Thanks again for any help!
Johann M Ginther

Hey Claude,
if it did not have an attached profile it is almost definitely in sRGB or, more rarely, Apple RGB. Lightroom always assumes sRGB for untagged files which is typically a safe bet. Photoshop generally uses the working space for untagged images. Since you had adobeRGB there, you should get a more saturated image in photoshop then in Lightroom. The same data is simply interpreted in a different color space leading to different colors. This has nothing to do with the monitor profile therefore and my initial hunch was wrong. So for untagged images in photoshop, you should usually assign sRGB to them instead of working space.
>As for calibration hardware we do use them here so I will use it but since the Mac was brand new out the box I assumed that it was ok...
Unfortunately, in general the canned calibration is not very good on Macs. I find very large differences between the shipped profile and a profile generated by a calibrator. Also, Apple ships profiles that set your display's gamma to 1.8 instead of the standard 2.2. This leads to many images in webbrowsers being too low contrast. Even Apple suggests recalibrating your screen at 2.2 if you do digital photography work (it's in their Aperture help files). In this case though the difference between Lightroom and Photoshop had nothing to do with the monitor profile but was related to photoshop interpreting untagged files in its working space instead of the more likely sRGB space.

COLOR DISPLAY IN LIGHTROOM AND PHOTOSHOP

Hi I am a new user of Lightroom but a longtime user of Photoshop.
My question is this:
When opening the exact same TIFF file in Lightroom and Photoshop CS3 is there a way to configure Lightroom so that it will display the image exactly like Photoshop ? I mean the difference that I get is not dramatic but if there is a way to make it perfect I would love to know.
Thanks,
Claude from Montreal

Hey Claude,
if it did not have an attached profile it is almost definitely in sRGB or, more rarely, Apple RGB. Lightroom always assumes sRGB for untagged files which is typically a safe bet. Photoshop generally uses the working space for untagged images. Since you had adobeRGB there, you should get a more saturated image in photoshop then in Lightroom. The same data is simply interpreted in a different color space leading to different colors. This has nothing to do with the monitor profile therefore and my initial hunch was wrong. So for untagged images in photoshop, you should usually assign sRGB to them instead of working space.
>As for calibration hardware we do use them here so I will use it but since the Mac was brand new out the box I assumed that it was ok...
Unfortunately, in general the canned calibration is not very good on Macs. I find very large differences between the shipped profile and a profile generated by a calibrator. Also, Apple ships profiles that set your display's gamma to 1.8 instead of the standard 2.2. This leads to many images in webbrowsers being too low contrast. Even Apple suggests recalibrating your screen at 2.2 if you do digital photography work (it's in their Aperture help files). In this case though the difference between Lightroom and Photoshop had nothing to do with the monitor profile but was related to photoshop interpreting untagged files in its working space instead of the more likely sRGB space.

How can I syncronize Lightroom and Photoshop Elements data?

How can I syncronize Lightroom and Photoshop Elements data?

Hi Palsaran,
As i understood, your requirement is to POST data from UI to backend.
The above code you given is not correct if you want to use model based implementation.
In UI5 you don't need to do an explicit Ajax call, for which we can use Models like OData, JSON etc.
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Lightroom and Photoshop Elements 12 transfer/sharing problem'

I'm new to Adobe Lightroom 5 and Photoshop Elements 12. I open a Lightroom image in Photoshop Elements 12 by using Photo-->Edit In--> PSE12. I make a change in PSE12, and then "save." I understand that I'm supposed to overwrite the default file name. But, when I go back to LR, my PSE changes are not saved. What am I doing wrong?

I noticed the same problem when I upgraded to elements 12 in december. Also using LR 5.3 on mac running 10.8.5. When using the save command in PSE usually the saved file was not visible in LR. I posted in the forum then without any positive responses. As I worked the problem myself I noticed that when saving from PSE if I used the "save as" command instead of the "save" command and then answered in the affirmative to overwrite the existing file the edits would save back to LR without fail. I have been using this technique for the last 6 weeks or so and haven't had any edits fail to return to LR. I have no idea why this would fix the problem as all the instructional material says not to use the save as command. I suspect it is a bug in PSE12 but because it's "only" elements no one at adobe is paying any attention. Anyway, try that and see if it solves your problem. It worked for me although I can't explain why.

How to install Lightroom and Photoshop Elements from my old pc to my new pc?

I have a new pc and want to install Lightroom 5.7 and Photoshop Elements 12 from my old pc to the new one.

For LR here is a useful link:
http://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-move-lightroom-to-new-computer/
There is also a video tutorial which covers moving a LR catalog to a new computer:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/the-complete-picture-with-julieanne-kost/how-to-migrate-lr-to-an other-computer/
For Elements you can simply install the application and then set up the Elements Editor for external editing in the LR Library prefs. I’m assuming you won’t be using Oranizer as well as LR. That can lead to confusion and broken links unless you are very disciplined.
If you do intend to use Organizer the method is backup and restore, starting with an Organizer backup on the old PC.
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.html

RGB Color management between Illustrator and Photoshop

Hi,
I have a color management issue when exporting JPGs from Illustrator and opening them in Photoshop:
In Illustrator (file is in RGB mode), I have a logo which has the color RGB 0/0/153 and I export a JPG. When I open the file in Photoshop, the color is RGB 1/0154.
I have activated Adobe CC Color Manegement via Adobe Bridge (option "Europe, Universal 3"), which should produce consistent results in all Adobe applications.
So which is the color that is actually in the file? And what do I have to do to get the color I want (0/0/153) actually exported from Illustrator? I need this color to comply with corporate design specifications of my client.
Since I have to produce a lot of files it is not possible to readjust all colors in Photoshop ...
Thank you!
Michael

First, check to make sure that the RGB working colorspace is the same for both Illustrator and Photoshop.
When exporting the jpeg from Illustrator make sure the 'embed' color profile is selected, and it is the color profile that is required for your client. If this is for web use, then sRGB is your best choice.
When you open the exported image in Photoshop, make sure that the color settings for Photoshop are set to 'Preserve Embedded Profiles'. After you open the image in Photoshop, you can double check by going to Edit > Convert to Profile... The source profile should match the embedded exported profile from Illustrator. If these match, your RGB color values from Illustrator and Photoshop should also match.
If the source profile does not match, cancel out of the 'Convert to Profile" and go to 'Assign Profile". Assign the profile that you embedded when exporting from Illustrator. Now Photoshop should have the same values as Illustrator.

Color Differences between Lightroom and Premiere Pro

I have been making color adjustments to movie clips in Photoshop or Lightroom (both of which do a great job), but when I bring the clips into Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements the colors are not the same as what I was seing in the other programs. It is as if the programs are using different color profiles. How do I resolve this problem?

bryanbrowne1 wrote:
I have been making color adjustments to movie clips in Photoshop or Lightroom (both of which do a great job), but when I bring the clips into Premiere Pro or Premiere Elements the colors are not the same as what I was seing in the other programs. It is as if the programs are using different color profiles. How do I resolve this problem?
Photoshop and Lightroom are designed for still photography. Still photographers use a color managed workflow that in general ends in a paper print. Since printers/inks/papers can in general display a wider gamut than computer monitors can display, we use tools manage it, such as soft proofing. The efficient way to control this is through ICC profiles of the printer/ink/paper combinations, of which there are thousands. Thus Photoshop and Lightroom and other still photography tools are esentially required to be color managed.
PPro and film/video have decidedly different requirements. The video workflow ends in a light source display (projection, HDTV, or web video, all are light sources, where a pigment ink print is a reflective source, which has entirely different characteristics). These end displays are not variable workspace displays. HDTV displays only in REC.709 workspace, its gamut, contrast, etc. are tightly defined. Web video uses the sRGB workspace. Etc.
I'm just sayin' that still photography and video have very different requirements. Trying to force still photography methods onto a video workflow is bound to be difficult and full of problems, as you have found.
The answer to your "How do I resolve this problem" question is perhaps to use the still photography tools for still photography, and the video tools for video. A stills workflow for stills, and a video workflow for video.
A video workflow implies doing color correction and color grading on external monitors that natively support the target work space (Rec.709 in the case of HDTV, Blu-ray, or DVD output [OK, technically DVD uses SDTV's REC.601 work space, but 709 is "close enough" that you can get by in all but the most critical applications]). IOW, use a production monitor, or at least an HDTV (calibrated of course), to judge final output.
Trying to color correct video on a computer monitor is just asking for trouble. As you well know by now.
A good place to start learning the video way of things when it comes to color correction and grading is Alexis Van Hurkman's Color Correction Handbook. Highly recommended; it answered questions that I didn't know enough to ask yet. Might for you too, IDK.

Color changes between CS2 and CS4 opacity with effects turned on

Howdie.
I don't run into issues much with Photoshop, and this one has me stumped.
I needed to drop back to CS2 in order to use a warp mesh plugin. I saved out a small portion of a file that I created in CS4 (Only containing the layer I needed to warp) and then opened that file in CS2, turned off all the effects (drop shadow, inner glow, bevel & emboss), and applied the mesh warp, then saved the file. I went back into CS4 and re-opened it there and copied its layers into the bigger, original file. What is strange is that the colors were a LOT lighter than they should be when compared to the original unwarped layer. So in an attempt to figure out what was wrong, I checked all of my layer opacities, filter settings, layer mixing mode, etc. and everything was exactly the same. I even tried deleting the layer style and copying the layer style from the original layer...no change. I turn off the effects and check the color of the object and it reads the same as the original layer. Both layers have no semi-transparency in the colors. I turn the effects on and it is all whacked out. After a while, I figured out that the problem was that the layer opacity in the effects, although reading the same between both layers (70%), is behaving as if it should be at 90% opacity in the new layer in order to match the original. Its as if the layer worked on in CS2 has brought with it some corrupted info in its definition, that never leaves and affects any Effects you try to apply to it.
Has anyone experienced this one before?

A liitle bit more info here. Apparently, the pixel data for the warped parts screws with the effect, Inner Glow, in the Choke and Size sliders. The sliders simply quit functioning and have an abrupt light/dark toggle effect roughly near about value "7".
The only way I could fix the problem was to do this convoluted solution, since Duplicate Layer does not work.
    1. Clear the effects on the problem layer.
    2. At this point you can either work on the problem layer directly or duplicate it to create a work layer. Doesn't really matter because both layers will get deleted later anyway.
    3. With Channel Mixer, and for EACH color channel CMYK, move all 4 sliders hard left, so that the result is 0/0/0/0 for the CMYK values (Do NOT use Brightness & Contrast in place of Channel Mixer because you will lose any blurred edges. Also, using Channel Mixer does not swell or choke off the pixels along any "floating" shapes' edges).
    4. With the selection tool, create two small selection boxs at two opposite corners of the entire layer. Fill them with any color.
    5. Select the entire layer (CNTL + A on a PC), and copy it to the clipboard.
    6. Create a new Alpha channel and Paste. The little boxs at the opposite corners of the file were needed to precisely position a copy of the layer when we Paste it into the new channel. The contents of the channel must be exactly registered with where the original shapes were in the problem layer.
    7. If you want, you can now delete the boxs in the corners of the channel by filling them with black.
    8. Create a new layer and load the selection (the channel) we just created.
    9. Fill it with the desired color.
    10. Copy the desired effects from the original layer before warping was done and to the new layer we just created.
    11. Delete the old problem layer.
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Color Sync Between iPhoto and Photoshop

iPhoto's retouching tool does a good job for retouching small marks in a photo, but there are times when Photoshop is needed to do rechouching work.
While making a slideshow I noticed a colorshift when moving an image from iPhoto to Photoshop and then back into the iPhoto. To be more specific there is a loss of saturation as if the color space between the to programs are not sycncronized or embedded profiles are changed when an image moves between the two. The images are five mega pixle jpgs.
This issues is made more complicated because of color differences between iPhoto's edit window and the slideshow it's self while it is playing.
Apparently I'm missing something in using these to programs together.
Photoscene

Thanks for your help. I did change the value, but have not imported any new pictures yet into iphoto. I did figure out how to get Photoshop to not color shift on save. However I'm not sure this method is a good thing, since the only way to prevent the color shift on saves, is from the photoshop save as dialog box. you must turn off embed color profile. when I do this, there is no longer a color shift. however the color profile is no longer embeded in the picture. are there any negatives for doing it this way?

Color change between copy and paste

Hi,
when I draw a rectangle or any other shape in Pages and give that objet a color (RGB: 175,217,82) and I copy and paste that objet, the color of the copied object does change to (RGB: 188,219,108). Copying the copied object stays the same (RGB: 188,219,108).
This unwanted color-change is very annoying! Help, what am I doing wrong?
Best regards.
Maurice

Maurice,
There is a difference between the RGB color assigned to the object and the color you measure when you probe the screen area of the object with the color picker tool. I presume this has something to do with the screen driver's attempt to balance the colors or something. (Not an expert here, just observing.)
There hasn't been a change in color, just a difference between the assignment and the measurement. Trust the color swatch of the Fill tool, not the measurement tool.
Jerry

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