Color Correcting but advanced!

Hey guys, here I am with yet another question. I know how to color correct pretty well but not as well as I want to. I bought some apple books to teach me but I still can't figure it out. Here's my problem, just say it's two people and any background that has many different colors, how do I leave the 2 people in full color but everything else in black and white? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I was taught that any question is not dumb, whats dumb is not to ask any questions at all.
Thanks.

In FCP, put your shot on V1 and a copy of it on V2. Select both and ctrl/right click on them and choose Send To Motion.
In Motion put a desaturate filter on the lower layer. Motion has a freehand mask tool that makes a bezier shape. Select your upper layer and then select the the freehand mask tool and draw around the "color" area of your upper layer. Feather as needed. Turn on record (red button next to Play), step forward on your timeline and adjust the control points of your mask shape. When you're done, save it, quit. Fall back into FCP and render.
Couple of points: Motion loads everything into memory - no streaming from disk - so you're gonna want to limit your shots to a minute or so... And, this isn't for the faint of heart or the uninformed, you really should do your Motion tutorials and understand it before doing this.
Good luck,
Patrick

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