Color correction on color

Is anybody graded full feature film (2k or 4k)on color.How is the result?Is there will be a differnce if i use base light or lustre?Cause i am planning to use colr with a good colorist for my feature film.

Yes, there are people who have used the application for feature-length projects. Not many in 4K, unless you count RED as 4K, and I guess you can fiddle the numbers so that it is. Small companies started using Final Touch more than 5 years ago to accomplish exactly this workflow.
It is not likely that there will be any obvious qualitative differences when compared to a Baselight or Lustre grade -- like there aren't any differences between any of the others, either, like... Pablo, Resolve, et al. They all do essentially the same thing, with similar controls, and may have different names for their tools, and different little bells and whistles like audio support or unlimited secondaries, or different FX-handling or simulation modes. Some operate faster than others -- and this might be one of the most important features. Speed is an important factor, and real-time grade-mapping and playback might be crucial to your project. COLOR is not really there with some of the big-iron offerings, but... its what you can afford that will help your decision.
jPo

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Advice for logical workflow for color correcting and color grading

I am an experienced user of PPRO CS5. I am a novice with color correcting and color grading. I am also just barely competant in AE CS5. It has been suggested that I use AE for color correcting my footage. Can you advise me as to the most logical workflow for doing this in coordination with PPRO CS5? Are there some tutorials that you recommend? I subscribe to Lynda.com and I think that they have some great tutorials, I am unsure as to where to begin looking and what to search for.
Thanks so much,
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lisaellensegal wrote:
I am an experienced user of PPRO CS5. I am a novice with color correcting and color grading. I am also just barely competant in AE CS5. It has been suggested that I use AE for color correcting my footage.
You can do it that way, sure. But you don't have to. You can accomplish quite a lot without leaving PPro. This has two major advantages. First, if you aren't using AE for anything else, it gets you out of using AE at all, so gets you out of climbing another set of learning curves.
Second, even if you are using AE for other things (I use AE to make motion lower thirds, for example), doing the work in PPro can improve exporting speeds. This is because AE gets restricted to a single processor core in some workflows as discussed in this thread and others (search around if you're interested). This can make exporting take 3x as long or longer, depending on how much footage has to be processed by AE.
So, how to do color correction without leaving PPro? Use either a luma corrector or luma curve effect to set black and white points, and contrast (use a waveform monitor to help). Then use a three way color corrector effect to get rid of any residual color casts (use the vectorscope to help, and the RGB parade, etc.).
If you find you have specific colors that need to be fixed, you can apply another three way color correction effect and use it to make that secondary color correction (for example I find the blue dyes used in many labels tend to fluoresce under fluorescent lighting, and has to be desaturated with a secondary color correction or it "blooms" on an HDTV -- IOW, it has to be made "broadcast safe").
If you want tutorials for using these tools, the ones on Creative Cow by Andrew Devis are quite good, and free. The ones on color correction with PPro cs6 start at tutorial number 47. There's a bunch of them. All good.
Finally, get a copy of Van Hurkman's Color Correction Handbook. May be the best technical book I've ever read, and it'll certainly point you in the right direction for doing color correction work regardless of which tools you use to do it.

Color correct for color correcting?

Hi
I have a film to color correct and was wondering: How do I know if the color I'm seeing on my 2010 MBP 2.66 is correct? Is there a process to make it right, or a test to test it?
I see there's a way to calibrate it, is that any better than the display profile Apple apparently created or installed last month?
best
elmer

Hello elmerlang,
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities.
To calibrate your display follow the steps in the article below:
OS X Mavericks: Calibrate your display
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH13768
Take care,
Alex H.

Color Correction: Canvas color is off from exported video

Hey everyone,
Forgive me if this has been covered before, but I've been searching around and can't find the answer I'm looking for.
When I color correct a video, I get it to where I want in the canvas, and then go to export. When I export the video, it looks different from what I did in the canvas. The exported video ALWAYS looks like its never been color corrected. It's very aggravating because I have to over color correct it to make it look the way I want. Like raise the contrast a bit more, to get the exported video to look right, while the preview in the canvas looks bad.
Any suggestions to how to perhaps change the color settings on the canvas? or how to correct this problem?
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Jonathan

It's unfortunate that the word "calibration" has been co-opted to mean something along the subjective lines of a daily set-up using a blue gun gray scale or a blue screen with NTSC or PAL or HD bars, performing white/black and chroma level adjustments by eye.
Calibration of a monitor in the literal sense is performed by an engineer with engineering tools to perform precise, objective adjustments of the r,g,b bias and gains as well as any yoke alignment in the case of one of those old fashioned cathode ray tube type displays.

Color correcting in Color or Final Cut after cutting footage?

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I'm about to begin cutting a multi-cam sequence in final cut pro with 2-3 camera angles. Is there a way to color correct in either Color or Final Cut Pro, all of the video used in a specific multi-cam angle?
In other words, if I'm cutting between Cam A and Cam B and finish my cutting, can I then go back and color correct all of the Cam A shots without having to manually click on every shot that used Cam A?
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A dedicated color correction app is on its way, maybe CS6. However, we find using the fast color corrector and the three way color corrector in PP quite effective for the basic primary/secondary color correction we do. Gotta watch your scopes though (waveform/vectorscope at the very least). Creative Cow has some tutorials on basic color correction. Here's one, but you'll have to dig around for the others by Andrew Devis. Again, don't do any color correction without checking your scopes.
http://library.creativecow.net/devis_andrew/Color-Correction-2_Premiere-Pro/1
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Color correction - matching color from two captures?

Hi, Shooting inside the same room with the same light, I seem to have got the walls a little more yellow in one of my takes. There is a subject (blue shirt) and a mechanical system (painted blue) with the background an off white paint on a block wall. I have used Color Corrector but can't seem to get it just right. Is there a way I can sample the color in a good frame, then use the sample to correctly match the incorrect segment? Thanks.

Here's a trick that may help. Try applying the 3 way color corrector filter, reducing the saturation to 0 and limiting the effect to high luma areas (the white walls). I had a shoot a few years ago with flourescent lights that created a color fluctuation that was only visible in white areas. This fixed it.

Looking for a particular color correction tutorial

I am looking for an online tutorial on how to do color correction if the video one is working with has color bars. This happens on a lot of analog videotapes that come to me. I know what my scopes are suppposed to look like when analyzing color bars, but I need something that shows me how to get from A to B.
If I Google some varient of "color correction video color bars," all I get is information on calibrating monitors.
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After effects color corrected clip not showing correctly in Premiere

Hello all,
I have recently made a short film with a few effects in Premiere and After effects CS4. I have used the Dynamic Link to accomplish this. I have added color correction with Color Finesse in After effects. The problem is I some of the color correction is not showing up in Premiere once it has finished. Some of them are adjustment layers and some are not and the ones that are showing up are diverse like that as well. I have rendered the footage and rendered the premiere time line, it fixes it at first but won't build a DVD the right way then the fixes just seem to disappear when scrolling through the timeline.
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Maybe a new codec?

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Color correction problem

Hi.
I usually work on color correction using Color, but sometimes i use CC in FCP.
I have a clip that need to low down black levels, so i tried CC and CC 3 way, but when i click with eyedrop the blackest part of the clip, instead of blancing blacks, it turns all image to blue. What's happened?
can i have some suggest about it?
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To color balance, find anything in the shot that should be white. Using the Color Corrector 3-Way filter, click on the eyedropper for the highlights (the color wheel on the right) then click the white object in the shot on the Canvas window. If you're viewing your edit on a properly calibrated external TV monitor, it should look white there. Do NOT go by what you see in the Canvas as it isn't accurate. You can also use FCP's scopes for evaluation.
If it still looks a little off on the TV monitor and/or on the scopes, use the mouse to drag the dot in the highlights color wheel toward the hue it needs to be (away from the hue that is is currently).
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Premiere Pro CS3 then After Effects CS3 for Color Correction?

Hello All,
I'm at a bit of a loss here, it seems like it's a no brainer to be able to do this. I'm trying to edit my film in Premiere and then use After Effects to do color correction using Color Finesse 2. But there doesn't seem to be ANY way to keep a project so you can continue to edit in premiere while you also keep all your color correction??
You can do color correction in AE and export a premiere project but premiere won't recognize the Color Finesse Filter so you lose all you color correction!
Or I can edit the whole project in premiere and open it in after effects to do color correction, but then if there is a single edit change that needs to be done in premiere again i've once again lost my Color Correction to bring it back.
Is this really the case that I can't use these expensive packages together this way? It seems like there has to be a solution! If Adobe just made it so Premiere kept the "links" to your filters in the project, instead of killing an unrecognizable one. Then when you opened it back in after effects after your edit your Color Correction would still be there.
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys, all good ideas.
Aanarav, Your idea to just get Color Finesse for premiere I suppose I could do. It's $545 which isn't exactly pocket change, but it would probably be worth it, if there is another way other than breaking the bank book for software I already own i'd like to try to get away with it.
Steven Gotz
Dynamic link is unfortunately a feature only of the production studio package which is like $1100 upgrade from what I have...so that's kinda out of the question for me.
Jon Sands
Great idea here. I really thought it might work since premiere seems to use what are called after effects plugin files too. But after copying and pasting for a while it doesn't look like it actually sees it as a plugin anywhere I paste it. :( If anyone knows of a way to get that to work I would be seriously grateful!
I guess it sounds like the only way out is to spend cash, sigh such is so often the case is seems.
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After Effects Rendered Color Correct Not Showing In Premiere

Hello all,
I have recently made a short film with a few effects in Premiere and After effects CS4. I have used the Dynamic Link to accomplish this. I have added color correction with Color Finesse in After effects. The problem is I some of the color correction is not showing up in Premiere once it has finished. Some of them are adjustment layers and some are not and the ones that are showing up are diverse like that as well. I have rendered the footage and rendered the premiere time line, it fixes it at first but won't build a DVD the right way then the fixes just seem to disappear when scrolling through the timeline.
Is anyone else haveing this problem?
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Maybe a new codec?

Mylenium is correct, the LE version of Color Finesse included with CS4 is for use in After Effects only. To use Color Finesse inside of Premiere or AME you'll need to upgrade to the full PI version. You can find information on available upgrade paths at http://www.synthetic-ap.com/cfupgrade
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E71 and Color Correction

I have noticed even with the new updated version firmware that when using the camera it still has a blue or purple tint and lacks sharpness.I preceded to http://mosh.nokia.com/content/4F546B0D59DD282DE040050A45300EA2 and D/l this file and installed on the E71.
I took two pictures using the normal camera on the E71 and the conditions were set that both images not use flash. The first image was taken in the living room by the door leading to the deck and the other image was taken in a room just using the overhead fixture.
I then preceded to using the installed program and went to camera-color correction and color corrected blue by adding yellow and increased the contrast slightly. I will add another post so that you might see Roomlight 1.jpg
You decide if its better or worse and i also noticed and using the installed program that the file size just about doubled.
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Somebody asked me to make a comparison of that living room photo with and without contrast.
All photos reduced to 640x480 as if they were sent mms.
Original Living room Photo
Living Room Photo color corrected by adding yellow and slight magneta
Living Room Photo same as 1. except contrast added.
Color corrections done on the spot via photoeditor
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Video tear after color correction

I'm operating Mac- CS6 build 6.0.2 and my original media is fine. After color correction ( auto color with just a little white clip boost) there is a tear or dropped frame that occurs intermittently in about 3 minuntes of my sequence. Rendering has not resovled the issue nor has a test export solved the problem. Any thoughts on what is causing the issue. All other areas in my sequence are fine with the same correction.

You're welcome.
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Grainy/"Pixelated" after color correction

Any time I do color correction or color grading (only slight adjustments), my footage appears to be very grainy/"pixelated." Has anyone else encountered this issue?

First image is raw footage. Second image is color corrected and not rendered. Third image is color corrected and rendered so I can export, but appears very grainy/pixelated. This is the case everytime I try to color correct a clip.

My HD TV as NTSC Monitor for secondary color correction

Can I use my new Panasonic HD TV model TH-42PX80U as a NTSC monitor for secondary color correction using both Final Cut Pro out of a Macbook Pro intel? What cable I can use to conect via HDMI? Will the color acuracy will be similar to that of a NTSC color correction monitor? will my TV do a decent job for NTSC? THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
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Can I use my new Panasonic HD TV model TH-42PX80U as a NTSC monitor for secondary color correction using both Final Cut Pro out of a Macbook Pro intel?
Yes, but I would only trust it if you are going to be making DVDs, and ONLY if you properly set it up. I would not rely on it for broadcast color correction. The reason broadcast monitors exist is to have a standard...HDTVs don't have a standard. Go to best buy and look at all of them....none of them match. BUT, as a nice simple solution for DVD, I'd use it.
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Will the color acuracy will be similar to that of a NTSC color correction monitor?
No...it would be similar to color correcting NTSC on your home television...because that it what it is.
will my TV do a decent job for NTSC?
I doubt it. Taking an SD image and blowing it up huge on this HD TV...scaled up. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't use it for SD color correction.
I am not sure I have this HDMI cable to be use in my macbook pro does it comes with it?
You have a DVI port on your MacBook Pro. And they make DVI to HDMI cable adapters I'm sure.
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