Color correction technique

After editing my project and publishing to a DVD , I've been a liitle disappointed in the color saturation of my final project when viewed on my TV. The video just appears a little flat.
Can someone guide me through a good color correction process that might help with this.
What role do the color bars play in calibration ?
Just as an FYI I don't have a broadcast monitor..I guess I could use a TV ?

It is possible that there could be nothing wrong with your FCE produced DVD.
Could it be that the colour settings on your TV are poor compared with your computer monitor?
Have you tried the DVD on other (possibly better) TVs?
How does your DVD compare with the normal TV programmes? It should be of a similar quality. If it is not then maybe there is some fault in your technique, either in the filming or post production stage etc.
Ian.
PS. Have you tried boosting the Contrast and Saturation on your TV?

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OLA!!!
been a while since I have been on the forum..
Right.... just going through the advanced technique apple certified manual, and going through the color correction chapters.
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