Color differences between FCP and Motion

Forgive me if I'm breaking any unwritten rules here as I posted this same topic on the Final Cut forum the other day..so bear with me as I hope to find some insight here from the many experienced (and extremely helpful) Motion users on the motion forum.
OK...here's my dilemma. I create a graphic/text page in Motion working with the RGB colors from a style guide provided by an agency. I then drop the motion project into the FCP timeline and the colors between the 2 applications are different.
I'm attaching a link to 2 jpegs that show the different RGB readings with the DigitalColorMeter application.
http://www.myphotos.yahoo.com/s/218qifk6fseemvbmprlw
In my Motion project the meter tells me that the dark blue color is RGB-11,44,99
In my FCP timeline the meter tells me that the dark blue color is RGB-4,30,79
I gather from some forum research that this may have something to do with gamma levels...my FCP setting has the Imported/StillRGB Video Gamma setting set at Source.
I'm hoping that someone can explain to me why the DigitalColorMeter readings would be different between Motion and FCP...and what I might do to feel confident that my Motion files would import correctly into my FCP timeline.
Thanks in advance to any insight....
Jay

After some more exploration...turning things on and off, changing sequence/gamma setting, and the like...I now realize what the issue is.
When the background setting in my canvas/edit window is set to black the colors are accurate between motion and FCP.
Once I change the background setting in the canvas/edit window to white or checkerboard there is definitely a shift in color/gamma. Not sure why that is...maybe someone can explain

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