Color Finesse 3 and AME CS4

I'm sorry, I'll have to be brief, but I came up with an issue regarding Color Finesse and AME.
I already had used the plugin once without problems and exported at least one video with it, but now, everytime I export a video and AME opens, the following window pop's up:
And I came across with other users with the same bug. Their solution was to upgrade the CF 2.1.8 to 2.1.11.
However I am using CF 3.02 and not 2.1.8. And I think there is no more recent version than this one...
I already tried to uninstall and install both the whole Creative Suite (deleting manually the preferences, and other files) and the plugin, but after that, the same error shows up...
Does anyone here knows a solution? Or why this bug starts to happen after some time working fine?

We're not sure why it happens some times and not others. And apparently never on our systems. We've had just a couple of reports of this on the Mac, and none on Windows since the 2.1.11 update was published (3.0.2 incorporates the change that was made in 2.1.11--I just verified that we didn't "lose" that fix in the move to 3.0).
To help us pin this down, can you let us know exactly how you are doing your export as well as the source footage format and the destination format and settings. There seems to something about a specific type of export that is tripping up Color Finesse.
We don't normally monitor this section of the Adobe Forums, so it would be fastest if you can send that information to us via support "at" synthetic-ap "dot" com. Thanks and sorry for the problem.
Bob Currier
Synthetic Aperture

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No quick answer for you. There's nothing in the manual as there's not much more to say than what the error message says: Color Finesse is attempting to initialize QuickTime and getting an error.
It looks like there are three reasons why you might get that error messag
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QuickTime fails to initialize for some other reaso
So looking at #3, do you have any third-party codecs installed which might be giving problems? QuickTime interacts with video cards and their drivers so any changes in that area could upset QuickTime. Also check the QuickTime settings and try changing them to see if it makes any difference. Something changed since the full interface was working for you, so I'd concentrate on figuring out what that is.
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-- Bob

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