Color management for Web Designing ?

I want to know what is the best settings for Web design to use sRGB or Adobe RGB ?

razorxdev wrote:
...most people seem to have more advanced monitors capable of wider gamuts...
Hmmm... rather than just saying that most people seem to have advanced monitors, how about presenting some statistical facts on how many are using wide gamut displays?
sRGB is the lowest common denominator. Most every display should be able to render at least that gamut. Catering to the lowest common denominator is what web design is all about (ie: MSIE).
Wide gamut displays certainly change things for a web designer but they cannot (and should not) change things for everyone, including the majority that are still limited to sRGB.

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Color management for web and print.

Hi there. I would like to post my images and have them print ready for clients. When I read about both of these I find one thing for web and one thing for print. I don't want to edit them twice. What would you suggest for easiest workflow? I like to post the images in an online gallery for my clients and if I really like them maybe use on my homepage. Do I have to edit twice or what is the optimal setting for a photographer. I do mostly portraits --family, baby, couples, etc.
I am pretty well versed in actual editing processes but my understanding in this portion is still lacking. I am trying prophoto rgb on photos today, but will this compromise my online quality?

brwmmw wrote:
…I knew of this option but did not know if it was optimal quality…
You define the quality of the saved image in the Save for Web and Devices dialog box.
brwmmw wrote:
…I have just been… using same files for web and print. I wanted to increase quality across the board in print and web…
That is absurd! (Sorry.) By doing that you are generating unconscionably and unnecessarily large image files. You're clients won't like that.
Remember that you have no control over how anyone sees your images on the web. Something like 97% of Internet users are running non-color-managed web browsers and uncalibrated monitor.
You and you're clients are best served when you stick to the lowest common denominator, namely sRGB images, for web.
brwmmw wrote:
…What mode do you use for prints?…
Personally, I like to stay in 16-bit ProPhoto RGB when I print my images myself. If sending them to a pro lab, I discussed it with the lab techs. But I have gathered a lot of experience by now. One really has to know exactly what one's doing to edit in ProPhoto RGB and stay in that color space. If sending my images to a cheap lab like Costco, I stick to 8-bit tagged images that I soft-proof with the specific printer profile that will be used by the local store.
You should—and probably do—know that ProPhoto RGB has a very wide gamut that includes colors that cannot be printed by many printers, and it's up to you to compensate for that. If you run into problems with ProPhoto RGB consider converting to Adobe RGB for print. Make sure the printer drivers that will be used to print actually support 16-bit printing, otherwise convert to 8-bit.
Since you're a pro, I would warmly recommend you watch the video tutorials comprising the "From Camera to Print - Fine Art Printing" series by Jeff Schewe and Michael Reichmann, that are/were available for download from the Luminous Landscape. They're working on a new 2011 edition, but the 2008 edition was just superb. Best $35 or so I've spent in a long time.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/camera-print.shtml
Wo Tai Lao Le (no connection to Adobe or Schewe/Reichmnan/Luminous_Landscape.)
我太老了

Color management for poster design?

I'm making a poster in CS6 that is composed of text, graphics and some photos that I am importing.
1. How do I decide if the .PSD should be a sRGB or Adobe RGB file? Is this based on the photos I'm importing or is it based on how it will be printed?
2. Does the quality of my image degrade each time I shift from sRGB to Adobe RGB?
Thank you!

The red arrows point to out of gamut warnings (gray areas).
I have to stop here. Teaching someone Photoshop from scratch or step by step exceeds the scope of this or any other forum.
You cannot learn Photoshop from scratch in a forum, question by question.
As I've typed countless times over the years, Photoshop is a professional level application that makes no apologies for its long and steep learning curve.
Your needs far exceed the scope of this forum.
To start learning, take a class in your nearest community college or similar educational institute, watch the Adobe video tutorials on this site, take a subscription to lynda.com, etc. There are many learning tools out there, just Google "learning Photoshop".
Good luck (and please remember this is a user site. I do not work for Adobe).
Remember, you are not addressing Adobe here in the user forums. You are requesting help from volunteers users just like you who give their time free of charge. No one has any obligation to answer your questions.

Color management for flash player with hardware acceleration

I have tested the color management for flash player 10.2 with and without hardware acceleration (GPU) on different PCs with different video cards.
Videos that are played via flash without hardware acceleration on PC have proper color as designed in After Effects.
When I switch on hardware acceleration, the color shifts, for example green becomes lighter, although grey values are OK. I have tried this by writing a small Flash programme for playing a movie; I wrote two programmes one with color management as described in the article "Color correction in Flash Player" http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/quickstart/color_correction_as3.html and another one without color management. In both cases I got the same color shift when hardware acceleration was turned on. From the result I concluded that color management does not work when hardware acceleration is on.
My question is: are there any plans to have color management for flash player with hardware acceleration (GPU) in the near future?
We need to play complex high definition movies streaming through a high speed local area network that need hardware acceleration to avoid stuttering.
V. S.

Hi, LOL at my screen moniker. That's interesting that the FF beta has an Option for that. The only problem, is that I have heard that each browser must UNcheck the H.A. I'm sure you'll find out.
Hope that works at least for FF. Let me know if you have time.
I've been checking out Apple TV and Google TV. Just saved the links and some info, haven't had time to go further. I'd prefer Apple TV over Google tho.
I have a 55" HD Sony/Blu-ray Surround Sound Speakers, etc. I hooked up the VGA cable for Internet, and WOW on the Screen/Monitor!! Now I'm thinking about the iPhone 4 with VZ too, on their pre-order list for 2/3/11!
Hard to keep up with the Technology, moving faster today for some reason.
We are under the Snow & Ice warning, getting it now. Hope I don't lose power! If so, I'll be offline for sure.
If I find anything on that H.A. for IE, I'll let you know.
Thanks,
eidnolb

Color management for flash galleries

I have recently found out that Flash 10 (currently in beta) supports color management (finally!). However, for it to work it needs to be enabled by the flash application itself. Therefore, I'd like to request the Lightroom team to enable color management for the LR2 flash web galleries.
Thanks for reading!
Simon

Bill,
I'm having the same problem. My exported web galleries are all shifted to the red.
Here's an example: http://venture-multimedia.com/photoshoots/jim/index.html
The guy looks like he has a sunburn. In lightroom he looks fine. I checked on two diff computers and the web gallery looks red on both, yet in lightroom it looks fine.
Just switched to Windows 7 and I'm wondering if that has somthing to do with it.
Suggestions please?!?!?!

A new Book: Color Management for Digital Photographers

Ted Padova and Don Mason have published a new book: Color Management for Digital Photographers for Dummies (ISBN 978-0-470-04892-4).
As the back cover of the manual states "This book is packed with examples to guide you through understanding color basics, correcting brightness and contrast, getting the exact tone and hue, and creating perfect prints - in full color, of course!" (with the tools available in PSE 4 and 5).
I had the luck to benefit from the excellent experience and the gracious help of Don Mason for a color/brightness adjustment problem in a Dafodill photo that I did not know how to solve on my own. I look forward to learn much more from this book.
Probably other PSE users could also be interested in this book.

Yes, I've tried all of the options: Printer manages color, PSE manages color. All are the same dark prints.
On another conversation on this forum, I read the following. Very discouraging to think that Adobe knows of this problem but won't give me any tech support because too much time has lapsed.
I don't know what "plugs" are--sounds like this user figured out a way around it.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Fran
Re: Color mismatch EpsonR800 and Elements 6
Adobe has admitted that there is a color management issue with PSE 6 for Mac. I have an Epson R1900 and I am now getting acceptable color-managed prints by allowing the Epson Printer driver to manage color management (ie; color management in PSE 6 turned off). The Epson Photoshop Plug In also works well with PSE6 and ICC profiles; however, I have yet to solve 2 problems with this particular plug in: (1) How to get the program to capture 3rd party ICC profiles and (2) how to print borderless prints. If anyone has seen a user guide for this particular plug in, I would be grateful to know how to download it.

Send an email to all user in Oracle Test Manager for Web Applications

I have administrator access to Oracle Test Manager for Web Applications. How can I send email to all user in the system (Oracle Test Manager for Web Applications)?
Thanks
Katherine
Edited by: Katherine on 20/12/2010 16:38
Edited by: Katherine on 20/12/2010 16:39

Hi ,
You can create a single dynamic distribution group with the condition to have only the mailboxes in exchange as its members . Then when a person send an email to that Dynamic distribution group it will get distributed to all the mailboxes
in exchange.
Note : Most important feature in the dynamic group is that the membership of that group will be maintained automatically and also along with that we can have group membership by defining the recipient types/OU /rules.
I agree with ED and also based on my knowledge you cannot achieve your scenario without Distribution groups or dynamic distribution groups.
Thanks & Regards S.Nithyanandham

ORACEL Test Manager for Web Applications' can not attach Objective document

When attach a document in OTM (ORACEL Test Manager for Web Applications), click Attachments --> add and then click 'Add', in the 'Choose file' screen, there is an Icon with Objective, but when the Icon is selected, the error message "The current application is not compatible with WinTalk" appeared.
We use a lot of document in Objective, can we make OTM compatible with Objective (WinTalk)

When attach a document in OTM (ORACEL Test Manager for Web Applications), click Attachments --> add and then click 'Add', in the 'Choose file' screen, there is an Icon with Objective, but when the Icon is selected, the error message "The current application is not compatible with WinTalk" appeared.
We use a lot of document in Objective, can we make OTM compatible with Objective (WinTalk)

Vocabulary for web design and beyond

Anyone tackling web design will encounter dozens of unfamiliar terms. I have compiled together this glossary to help them. I may update and expand in the future. Until then, feel free to use or pass along.
Some of these terms don’t relate strictly to web design, but also to computer graphics and computer programming generally, as I’ve found that such terms are also important to reading and understanding any tutorials or other materials on web design.
Asynchronous (1) General use. Not synchronous; not occurring or existing at the same time or having the same period or phase. (2) Digital communication. Pertaining to a transmission technique that does not require a common clock between the communicating devices; timing signals are instead derived from special characters in the data stream.
Bitmap image Image that uses geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and shapes, which are all based on mathematical equations. In a bitmap image, each pixel on a display screen is assigned at least one bit to indicate whether the pixel should reflect the background color, the foreground color, or some other color. each pixel in the bitmap might have 16, 24, or 48 bits of information associated with it. The more bits, the greater the resolution of the bitmap – and the larger the file. Compare Vector image.
C (programming language) General-purpose computer programming language developed in 1972 by Dennis Ritchie at the Bell Telephone Laboratories for use with the Unix operating system. It was designed for implementing system software and is also widely used for developing portable application software. C has greatly influenced many other popular programming languages, most notably C++, which began as an extension to C.
C++ Statically typed, free-form, multi-paradigm, compiled, general-purpose programming language. It was developed by Bjarne Stroustrup starting in 1979 at Bell Labs as an enhancement to the C language and originally named C with Classes. It was renamed C++ in 1983.
Cache Component that transparently stores data so that future requests for that data can be served faster. The data that is stored within a cache might be values that have been computed earlier or duplicates of original values that are stored elsewhere. If requested data is contained in the cache (cache hit), this request can be served by simply reading the cache, which is comparatively faster. Otherwise (cache miss), the data has to be recomputed or fetched from its original storage location, which is comparatively slower.
Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) Style sheet language used to describe the presentation semantics (the look and formatting) of a document written in a markup language. Its most common application is to style web pages written in HTML and XHTML, but the language can also be applied to any kind of XML document, including SVG and XUL.
ColdFusion Programming language based on standard HTML that is used to write dynamic webpages. It allows for the creation of pages that differ depending on user input, database lookups, time of day, or other criteria. ColdFusion pages consist of standard HTML tags together with CFML (ColdFusion Markup Language) tags such as <CFQUERY>, <CFIF> and <CFLOOP>. ColdFusion was introduced by Allaire in 1996, acquired by Macromedia in a merger in April 2001, and acquired by Adobe in December 2005.
Compound selector Can be used to combine two or more style rules to create a style definition that displays only when one style is contained within another. Compound styles are useful when you want to do something like use the Heading 1 tag multiple times to format headlines in different ways on the same web page. For example, you could create one style for headlines that appear in the main story area of a page and then create another style for headlines that appear in the sidebar on the page and still use the Heading 1 tag to format both. Compound styles are created by combining ID, class, or tag styles and look like this: #sidebar h1.
Contextual selector A type of Style Sheet Selector that
CRE Loaded Open source online store management and shopping cart system for e-commerce from Chain Reaction eCommerce. It is based on osCommerce, runs on any LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) web server, and is supported by an active international community of users and developers. For a monthly subscription ($10/mo. as of 2011), CRE Loaded allows small and medium-sized merchants to accept credit card payments in a web site that mirrors their own online stores.
CSS See Cascading Style Sheet.
Dynamic HTML (DHTML) Umbrella term for a collection of technologies used together to create interactive and animated web sites by using a combination of a static markup language (such as HTML), a client-side scripting language (such as JavaScript), a presentation definition language (such as CSS), and the Document Object Model. DHTML allows scripting languages to change variables in a web page's definition language, which in turn affects the look and function of otherwise “static” HTML page content, after the page has been fully loaded and during the viewing process.
ECMA International International membership-based non-profit standards organization for information and communication systems.
ECMAScript Scripting language standardized by Ecma International in the ECMA-262 specification and ISO/IEC 16262. The language is widely used for client-side scripting on the web, in the form of several well-known dialects such as JavaScript, JScript, and ActionScript.
Extensible HyperText Markup Language (XHTML) Family of XML markup languages that mirror or extend versions of the widely used HTML, the language in which web pages are written. While HTML (prior to HTML5) was defined as an application of Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML), a very flexible markup language framework, XHTML is an application of XML, a more restrictive subset of SGML. Because XHTML documents need to be well-formed, they can be parsed using standard XML parsers—unlike HTML, which requires a lenient HTML-specific parser.
Extensible Markup Language Set of rules for encoding documents in machine-readable form. It is defined in the XML 1.0 Specification produced by the W3C, and several other related specifications, all gratis open standards. Its design goals emphasize simplicity, generality, and usability over the Internet. It is a textual data format with strong support via Unicode for the languages of the world. Known by its acronym XML.
HTML See HyperText Markup Language.
Hypermedia Graphics, audio, video, plain text and hyperlinks that intertwine to create a generally non-linear medium of information. This contrasts with the broader term multimedia, which may be used to describe non-interactive linear presentations as well as hypermedia. The World Wide Web is a classic example of hypermedia, whereas a non-interactive cinema presentation is an example of standard multimedia due to the absence of hyperlinks.
Hypertext Text displayed on a computer or other electronic device with references (hyperlinks) to other text that the reader can immediately access, usually by a mouse click or keypress sequence.
Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) Predominant markup language and basic building-block of webpages. It is written in the form of HTML elements consisting of tags, enclosed in angle brackets (like <html>), within the web page content. HTML tags normally come in pairs like <h1> and </h1>. The first tag in a pair is the start tag, the second tag is the end tag (they are also called opening tags and closing tags). Known by its acronym HTML.
Hypertext preprocessor (PHP) Widely used, general-purpose scripting language that was originally designed for web development to produce dynamic web pages. It brings life to websites by communicating with external data sources, such as databases, news feeds, and XML documents. PHP code is embedded into the HTML source document and interpreted by a web server with a PHP processor module, which generates the web page document. PHP 3 was launched in 1998; PHP 4 was released in 2000; and PHP 5 was released in 2005.
Java Programming language released in 1995 as a core component of Sun Microsystems' Java platform. The language derives much of its syntax from C and C++ but has a simpler object model and fewer low-level facilities. Java applications are typically compiled to bytecode (class file) that can run on any Java Virtual Machine (JVM) regardless of computer architecture. Java is a general-purpose, concurrent, class-based, object-oriented language that is specifically designed to have as few implementation dependencies as possible. It is intended to let application developers "write once, run anywhere". Java is currently one of the most popular programming languages in use, and is widely used from application software to web applications.[
JavaScript Implementation of the ECMAScript language standard and is typically used to enable programmatic access to computational objects within a host environment. It can be characterized as a prototype-based object-oriented scripting language that is dynamic, weakly typed and has first-class functions.
JPEG Commonly used method of Lossy compression for digital photography that was named after the Joint Photographic Experts Group, which created the standard. The degree of compression can be adjusted, allowing a selectable tradeoff between storage size and image quality. JPEG typically achieves 10:1 compression with little perceptible loss in image quality.
Linux Family of Unix-like computer operating systems using the Linux kernel (central OS component). Linux can be installed on a wide variety of computer hardware, ranging from mobile phones, tablet computers and video game consoles, to mainframes and supercomputers. The development of Linux is one of the most prominent examples of free and open source software collaboration; typically all the underlying source code can be used, freely modified, and redistributed, both commercially and non-commercially, by anyone under licenses such as the GNU General Public License.
Lossy compression Data encoding method which discards (loses) some of the data, in order to achieve its goal, with the result that decompressing the data yields content that is different from the original, though similar enough to be useful in some way. Lossy compression is most commonly used to compress multimedia data (audio, video, still images), especially in applications such as streaming media and internet telephony. By contrast, lossless compression is required for text and data files, such as bank records, text articles, etc.
MySQL Relational database management system that runs as a server providing multi-user access to a number of databases. The MySQL development project has made its source code available under the terms of the GNU General Public License, as well as under a variety of proprietary agreements. Acronym for “My Structured Query Language.”
Open source Describes practices in production and development that promote access to the end product's source materials. Before the term open source became widely adopted, developers and producers used a variety of phrases to describe the concept; open source gained hold with the rise of the Internet, and the attendant need for massive retooling of the computing source code.
osCommerce Open source Commerce. It allows store owners to setup, run, and maintain their online stores with minimum effort and with no costs involved. Combines open source solutions to provide a free and open development platform, which includes the PHP web scripting language, the Apache web server, and the MySQL database server. With no restrictions or special requirements, osCommerce can be installed on any PHP3 or PHP4 enabled web server, on any environment that PHP and MySQL supports, which includes Linux, Solaris, BSD, and Microsoft Windows environments.
PHP See Hypertext preprocessor.
Rasterization The process of converting a Vector image into a Bitmap image.
Rasterize See Rasterization.
Shopping cart software Software used in e-commerce to assist people making purchases online. The software allows online shopping customers to accumulate a list of items for purchase. Upon checkout, the software typically calculates a total for the order, including shipping and handling (i.e. postage and packing) charges and the associated taxes.
Style sheet selector One of the two parts of a CSS rule (the other being the properties, or declaration block) that declares which of the markup elements a style applies to. Selectors may apply to all elements of a specific type, or only those elements that match a certain attribute (e.g., how they are placed relative to each other in the markup code, or on how they are nested within the document object model). There are many types of style sheet selectors: element selectors, which select by element name; class selectors, which select by class name; contextual selectors, which select by context based on parent elements (what the element is nested within or what precedes it in the document), etc..
Supercomputer Computer that is at the frontline of current processing capacity, particularly speed of calculation. Supercomputers are typically one-of-a-kind custom designs produced by companies such as Cray, IBM and Hewlett-Packard, who had purchased many of the 1980s companies to gain their experience. Since October 2010, the Tianhe-1A supercomputer, located in China, has been the fastest in the world.
Tag Non-hierarchical keyword or term assigned to a piece of information (such as an Internet bookmark, digital image, or computer file). This kind of metadata helps describe an item and allows it to be found again by browsing or searching. Tags are generally chosen informally and personally by the item's creator or by its viewer, depending on the system. HTML tags include paragraph, heading 1, heading 2, etc.
Unix Computer operating system originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs. The Unix operating system was first developed in assembly, which is machine-dependent and a low-level programming language. Ken Thompson created the B language in 1969 and Unix was written in the B language, a high-level programming language. The first Unix system written in C was released in November 1973.
Vector image Image made up of numerous individual, scalable objects. These objects are defined by mathematical equations rather than pixels, so they always render at the highest quality. Objects may consist of lines, curves, and shapes with editable attributes such as color, fill, and outline. Changing the attributes of a vector object does not effect the object itself. Compare Bitmap image.
Vector processor Central processing unit (CPU) that implements an instruction set containing instructions that operate on one-dimensional arrays of data called vectors. This is in contrast to a scalar processor, whose instructions operate on single data items. Also known as array processor.
Web analytics Measurement, collection, analysis and reporting of internet data, including the number of visitors and page views, for understanding and optimizing web usage. It can be used as a tool for measuring website traffic and for business and market research. Web analytics applications can also help companies measure the results of traditional print advertising campaigns. It helps one to estimate how the traffic to the website changed after the launch of a new advertising campaign.
Web design Design of the way that content is delivered to an end-user through the World Wide Web, using a web browser or other web-enabled software.
Web development Refers to the work involved in developing a web site for the Internet (World Wide Web) or an intranet (a private network). This can include Web design, web content development, client liaison, client-side/server-side scripting, web server and network security configuration, and e-commerce development. However, among web professionals, "web development" usually refers to the main non-design aspects of building web sites: writing markup and coding. Web development can range from developing the simplest static single page of plain text to the most complex web-based internet applications, electronic businesses, or social network services.
World Wide Web Consortium Main international standards organization for the World Wide Web. It is made up of member organizations which maintain full-time staff for the purpose of working together in the development of standards for the World Wide Web. Known by its acronym W3C.
XHTML See Extensible HyperText Markup Language.
XML See Extensible Markup Language.
Zend Engine Open source scripting engine (a Virtual Machine) commonly known for the important role it plays in the web automation language PHP.

Thanks for posting this!
I would only mention that your definition is incomplete for this -
Contextual selector A type of Style Sheet Selector that
and that it's most often referred to now as a Descendent selector, not a contextual selector. It's basically the same as the Compound selector that you have already defined....

Color Correction for Web

This is sort of a generic post questions. I am working on a project for the web. My final output will be to Digibeta. How do others approached color correcting in this situation? Being the computer monitors generally have such different characteristics than a traditional TV. In the past I correct as if I was going to air but this sometimes makes the online videos over saturated and contrasty. I realize there is really no web standard yet but wonder if anyone out there does a lot of web stuff that has any tips.

sRGB is the recommended color space for internet application.< </div>
You'd need to provide some documentation to support that statement.
sRGB is not necessarily meaningful beyond photographic applications. sRGB was designed to roughly reproduce color regardless of local profiling. The sRGB standard was created in 1996 to, among other things, create a smaller number of colors to increase the likelihood of correct reproduction in printing photographs, The mere presence of Microsoft on the list of supporting companies is reason enough to be skeptical.
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleI d=67719
When an RGB image from a high-end scanner or other device is imported into an SRGB environment, however, some color information is lost. What SRGB offers is a lowest-common-denominator view of images in business applications and on Web sites.< </div>
This from the wiki:
As the recommended color space for the Internet, sRGB should be used for editing and saving all images intended for publication to the WWW. Images intended for professional printing via a fully color-managed workflow, e.g., prepress output sometimes use another color space such as Adobe RGB (1998), which allows for a wider gamut.
Images intended for the Internet and created in one of the other color spaces may be converted to sRGB when editing, using a suitable editing program, e.g., Paint Shop Pro or Adobe Photoshop; ideally, the original non-sRGB file should be saved and the conversion to sRGB done on a copy, as some loss of image information occurs when converting to another color space.
Due to the standardization of sRGB on the Internet, on computers, and on printers, many low- to medium-end consumer digital cameras and scanners use sRGB as the default (or only available) working color space. Used in conjunction with an inkjet printer, an sRGB image produces what is often regarded as satisfactory for home use. However, consumer-level camera LCDs are typically uncalibrated, meaning that even though the image is being labelled as sRGB, one can't conclude that the image is color-accurate on the LCD.
The two dominant programming interfaces for 3D graphics, OpenGL and Direct3D, have both incorporated sRGB. OpenGL 2.1 incorporates sRGB textures first introduced by the EXTtexturesRGB extension. OpenGL's EXTframebuffersRGB extensionsupports rendering into framebuffers assuming either a linear or sRGB color space. DirectX 9 supports sRGB textures and rendering into sRGB surfaces using Direct3D.<
bogiesan

Converting color space for web

i shoot all my photos in adobe rgb. i would like to convert them for use on the web. i have read that they should be in sRGB color space. in photoshop i convert to sRGb color space but they still look the same as they did with adobe rgb, muddy and desaturated. can anyone help? i am getting extremely frustrated! thanks

Probably you're using a web browser that assumes monitor RGB for untagged images, and the gamut of your monitor is smaller than sRGB. So when monitor RGB is assumed, your images look desaturated.
You can get a wider gamut display. You can use a browser like Firefox with color management enabled, which assumes sRGB for untagged images. Or you can tag all your images with the sRGB profile (at a cost of 3.5k per image). In PS, you can assign your display profile after you've converted to sRGB to simulate what your browser is doing (or proof setup > monitor RGB).
In general though, don't sweat it too much. All the images you've ever viewed on the web that were prepared for sRGB have been muddy and desaturated as you're now experiencing, and it's never bothered you before. Have faith in your users' capacity for ignoring these details...
http://www.gballard.net/psd/saveforwebshift.html

Installing a printer color management for my mac using cc

Am having trouble printing, I am told I have no color management programme for my mac. What do I download?

You don't download anything. This is a configuration thing. Start by reading this and then take it from there using the links provided and an expanded web search:
My colors look different outside Photoshop. | Mylenium's Error Code Database
My printed colors look wrong. | Mylenium's Error Code Database
Mylenium

Color management for the umpteenth time

I am flummuxed by color management. I have read everything about it and still I have mixed results. Lets start at the basics:
1)I have a Canon pixma 6600d printer
2)I have calibrated by lcd monitor with Huey.
3)I use elements 5.0
4) I have assigned pictures for Adobe rgb.
5) I have read the instructions from Steves Digicam which recommends that I make the source adobe rgb and the target the paper profile that I am using. I am using the correct paper profile.
6) In Print preview, I set the color adjustment to manual, say no to icm, and none to media. This is according to the instructions of all color management gurus.
Some interesting things are happening. When I print a picture file that is Dng (adobe camera raw), the print looks terrible.Too much saturation. heavy magenta, etc. When I print a jpg file of the same picture, the result is much better although not the best. The best match is for one of 2 options. 1)Turn off icm in pe5, use printer color management. or 2) leave on Adobe rgb in pe5. In print preview: set source to adobe rgb. In printer profile, set to adobe rgb and relative colormetric. In Print driver, set color adjustment to auto. These are the most satisfying results.
Questions:
1) Are there problems in printing from a dng file or should I always try to print from a jpg file on my 6600d?
2) If I am using printer color management, should I always turn off color management in pe5 edit?
3)Is there anything else I haven't thought of that explains why I am having lousy results using the correct canon paper profiles in the print preview screen?
Thanks. I know this has been covered a million times.
Andy

Andy....
1. Same as Source - The data that's sent to your Printer is still the data that was created for the Colour Space of the Image. In your case the Source Space indicates sRGB. So sRGB colour numbers get sent to the printer.
What doesn't get sent is any profile information i.e there is nothing to tell the printer your sending it to that the colour space is sRGB. This means that if the printer is to perform colour management, it can't because it doesn't know the source profile - although there may be an option in the Printer Driver to force it to a preset.
2. In some Epson Printer Drivers there are two or more settings for Colour Management and yes they are confusing and I don't think consistent across the range.
I can't tell you all the possibilities but on my R2400, the ICM checkbox turns on Colour Management in the printer and then you have to select a bunch of other options about input profile, rendering intent, and output profile e.g. for the paper/ink type etc, etc,
However, by checking ICM ( on the R2400) it also makes visible an option called No Colour Adjust and by checking this it turns OFF colour management.
So, yes confusing, ICM appears to turn CM ON and then NCA turns it OFF. If this is the setting you use then in Elements you have to select a Print Profile that matches the printer/paper/ink i.e one of the Epson profiles.
3. The Printer Colour Management setting tells Elements to do no Colour Management but it will pass source data to the printer along with a profile.
Elements wont convert the Source Colour Space to the Printer/Paper Colour Space. The assumption then is that you set the Printer Driver accordingly to do the Colour Management Conversion. This might typically be to check ICM and select those features I mentioned in #2.
4. As for the R380 - I can't say what settings that have but take a look at the link below for more info about setting up Epson Printers.
It shows the R800 but the info may be similar for your 380
http://tech.epson.com.au/downloads/message.asp?platform=&techtips=techtips&EmailAdd=&Metri cIDReturned=1044920&submit=Search+%3E%3E&sCategory=Inkjet&id=stylusphotor800
Colin

Color Management for Epson printer using Photoshop Elements 6

I have consistently dark prints when using my new Epson workhorse 1100. It prints fine from iPhoto but not from Photoshop Elements 6. The Epson people say it's an Adobe problem. The Adobe people won't help, as it's not under warranty. I am interested in settings in PSE6 or on my Mac OSX. Or, what's a profile and how do I set it? Thanks!!

Yes, I've tried all of the options: Printer manages color, PSE manages color. All are the same dark prints.
On another conversation on this forum, I read the following. Very discouraging to think that Adobe knows of this problem but won't give me any tech support because too much time has lapsed.
I don't know what "plugs" are--sounds like this user figured out a way around it.
Any advice?
Thanks!
Fran
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Adobe has admitted that there is a color management issue with PSE 6 for Mac. I have an Epson R1900 and I am now getting acceptable color-managed prints by allowing the Epson Printer driver to manage color management (ie; color management in PSE 6 turned off). The Epson Photoshop Plug In also works well with PSE6 and ICC profiles; however, I have yet to solve 2 problems with this particular plug in: (1) How to get the program to capture 3rd party ICC profiles and (2) how to print borderless prints. If anyone has seen a user guide for this particular plug in, I would be grateful to know how to download it.

Color Picker for Web

I often do website images for developers. The problem i am having is matching the web color from a color pick in ps. I have used a method where s i take a screen shot on my MAC and then pull that into PS cs5 (I have cs6 also) and pick. Then i export for web (png or jpeg).
This method gets me inconsistent results. Is there a better way or a small utility for this?

I have Ps set up correctly as i tweaked settings the last time i had a color problem. My screen shots are LZ77 which i think carries SRGB. I have a custom calabration for my LED monitor. This adjustment was for yellow. done by a a friend with an xrite.
I do not think it is about the screen so much as how the color is being read. if i am seeing a certain purple on the web. my screen may softly tint it but its tinting everything on the screen and its effects would be universal.
its how how i am sampling i believe to be the issue.
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