Color Management in an HP C510a Photosmart printer

Hello,
I just purchased a new HP C510a Photosmart and would like to change the Color Management setting so that Photoshop CS5 controls it.
Have no clue as to where to do that.
Please help!
Thanks.
Bert

I've tried printing from both the catalog and the editor screen and I've fooled around with the color mgmt. The printing is still off. The colors are vibrant from what I can see and when it prints it's not as sharp and the colors tend to be dull or maybe leaning towards more green/blue sometimes even more reddish - orange. I've taken the liberty and reseted the printer to factory defaults on the hardware and on the pc...It's till giving me this problem. What's amazing is I can print from Kodakgallery software, photoalbum 3.2 from adobe and the colors are some what true to color. I can't get it to print right with elements.

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Color Management, Photoshop CS3 and Epson Inkjet Printer

I have been down this road before but here goes again...
Im using Photoshop CS3.
Im printing on an Epson Stylus Photo RX680 using Photo quality inkjet paper.
I know this printer is capable of very good quality prints.
Thing is I can not figure out the correct combination of color management settings to get a decent print out of Photoshop or InDesign.
I have read that you are supposed to turn off all printer color management and let Adobe manage the color. Doesnt seem to work.
I just get overly magenta images that look awful.
If I let the Epson color management control color I can get a lot closer but the print out is far from accurate or high quality.
So what the heck IS the correct protocol for printing to an Epson inkjet printer from an Adobe app.
BTW, I do seem to get a fairly decent print out of something like a PDF which I understand does its own postscript conversion before hitting the printer.
Is this what my issue is?
Does Photoshop or InDesign require postscript ripper software to get decent results out of an inkjet printer?

Have spent hours with both Adobe and Epson support people. I've read several of these forums. Is there an insurmountable problem with CS3 and Epson (2200/2400 are mine)? I have the Leopard patches and upgrade 10.5.4.
With Photoshop managing the color I get prints that are slightly underexposed and carry a pink cast. Color management is off. With the printer managing the color I get prints that are too green and dark. Epson advice here is to have color management off. There are two other choices for management but to adjust a perfectly balanced print to the printer's whim seem like cruel punishment.
Have a calibrated monitor and my CS2 works beautifully. Perhaps the best idea is to just go back to CS2 until Adobe and Epson can decide what to do. According to Adobe people, the CS3 gives much of the management back to Epson. According to Epson -- with CS3, you should choose the printer to manage the color (since this seems to be the trend between the two companies) but we users are not happy with the results.
What is the solution for right now?

Color management: Adobe RGB 1998 issues in print module

When printing to a JPEG file from the Print Module, I've noticed that the "Adobe RGB" profile differs substantially from the "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile supplied with Windows.
When viewed with Photoshop, the "Adobe RGB" images are much more saturated than the image previews from the Lightroom window. Photoshop displays the same "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile for both files.
I have tried to reinstall Lightroom, but this has not solved the problem.
It seems that when selecting "Adobe RGB", Lightroom is in fact converting the image to sRGB, but embeds the "Adobe RGB (1998)" profile.
ICC profile selection: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-a.png
This will output files that look like the previews in Lightroom: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-b.png
Profile selection pop-up: http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-color-c.png

Yeah that is completely different. My guess is that this is the bug I mentioned before. It should not happen but clearly does. It works normally on my system (I just tried again).
>Note that both dialogs do not display exactly the same name for the Lightroom provided Adobe RGB profile. http://julianchoquette.com/fichiers/forum/lightroom-export-dialog.png
That's normal and doesn't mean anything. On my computer it actually says "AdobeRGB" without the (1998) that yours shows but I believe that's simply a difference between the Mac and PC version. You can try whether it does the same thing if you select prophoto. But somebody with Vista x64 and LR 2.3 should try the same thing to see if this is a bug specific to the PC version of LR.

Printing issues with color mgmt on a HP 7180 photosmart printer - Can you help?

I've been have an ongoing issue with my Adobe Elements 6.0 and printing my pictures off a HP7180. The colors don't match what I see on the monitor as well what's on my camera. I can send the pictures to KodakEasyshare online and the pictures come back with the same colors as to what I see within my application and monitor. I've run test pages off my printer and everything is good. Help me, PLEASE.

I've tried printing from both the catalog and the editor screen and I've fooled around with the color mgmt. The printing is still off. The colors are vibrant from what I can see and when it prints it's not as sharp and the colors tend to be dull or maybe leaning towards more green/blue sometimes even more reddish - orange. I've taken the liberty and reseted the printer to factory defaults on the hardware and on the pc...It's till giving me this problem. What's amazing is I can print from Kodakgallery software, photoalbum 3.2 from adobe and the colors are some what true to color. I can't get it to print right with elements.

Color management help needed for adobe CS5 and Epson printer 1400-Prints coming out too dark with re

Color management help needed for adobe CS5 and Epson printer 1400-Prints coming out too dark with reddish cast and loss of detail
System: Windows 7
Adobe CS5
Printer: Epson Stylus Photo 1400
Paper: Inkjet matte presentation paper with slight luster
Installed latest patch for Adobe CS5
Epson driver up to date
After reading solutions online and trying them for my settings for 2 days I am still unable to print what I am seeing on my screen in Adobe CS5. I calibrated my monitor, but am not sure once calibration is saved if I somehow use this setting in Photoshop’s color management.
The files I am printing are photographs of dogs with lots of detail I digitally painted with my Wacom tablet in Photoshop CS5 and then printed with Epson Stylus 1400 on inkjet paper 20lb with slight luster.
My Printed images lose a lot of the detail & come out way to dark with a reddish cast and loss of detail when I used these settings in the printing window:
Color Handling: Photoshop manages color, Color management -ICM, OFF no color adjustment.
When I change to these settings in printer window: Color Handling: Printer manages color. Color management- Color Controls, 1.8 Gamma and choose Epson Standard it prints lighter, but with reddish cast and very little detail and this is the best setting I have used so far.
Based on what I have read on line, I think the issue is mainly to do with what controls are set in the Photoshop Color Settings window and the Epson Printer preferences. I have screen images attached of these windows and would appreciate knowing what you recommend I enter for each choice.
Also I am confused as to what ICM color management system to use with this printer and CS5:
What is the best ICM to use with PS CS5 & the Epson 1400 printer? Should I use the same ICM for both?
Do I embed the ICM I choose into the new files I create?
Do I view all files in the CS5 workspace in this default ICM?
Do I set my monitor setting to the same ICM?
If new file opens in CS5 workspace and it has a different embedded profile than my workspace, do I convert it?
Do I set my printer, Monitor and PS CS5 color settings to the same ICM?
Is using the same ICM for all devices what is called a consistent workflow?
I appreciate any and all advice that can be sent my way on this complicated issue. Thank you in advance for your time and kind help.

It may be possible to figure out by watching a Dr.Brown video on the subject of color printing. Adobe tv
I hope this may help...............

Color Managed Printing from LR 1.3.1 Inverse of Proper PS CS3 10.0.1 Behavior

Please excuse the length and detail of this post - I'm just trying to be very clear...
Also, it would be helpful if anyone having definitive information about this topic could please email me directly in addition to replying to this forum topic, in order that I might know a response is available sooner (I am new to this forum, and may not check it regularly). My direct email address is [email protected].
Bottom Line: Color managed printing using my own custom-generated profiles from LR 1.3.1 to my Epson 7600 (on Intel-based Mac OS X 10.5.2, but saw the same behavior with 10.5.1) using the current Epson 7600 Intel/10.5x-compatible driver (3.09) is broken, and appears to be doing the exact opposite (inverse) of what I would expect and what PS CS3 does properly.
I am color management experienced, and have been using my custom-generated EPSON 7600 profiles with reliable soft proofing and printing success in PS (both CS2 and now CS3) for some time now. I know how the EPSON printer driver should be set relative to PS/LR print settings to indicate desired function. Images exported from LR to PS and printed from PS using "Photoshop Manages Color" and proper printer driver settings ("No Color Adjustment") print perfectly, so it isn't the Intel-based Mac, the OS, the driver, the profile, or me -- it is LR behaving badly.
The specific behavior is that printing from LR using "Managed by Printer" with the EPSON driver's Color Management setting set properly to "Colorsync" prints a reasonable-looking print, about what you would expect for canned profiles from the manufacturer, and in fact identical to the results obtained printing the same image from PS using "Printer Manages Color". So far so good. Switching to my specific custom profiles in LR and printing with the driver's CM setting set properly to "No Color Adjustment" yields results that are clearly whacked, for both LR settings of "Perceptual" and "Relative CM". Just for completeness and out of curiosity, I tried printing from LR using the same profile (once for "Perceptual" and once more for "Relative CM") with the EPSON driver's CM setting set IMPROPERLY to "Colorsync", and the results were much more in line with what you would expect - I would almost say it was "correct" output. This is why I used the phrase "inverse of proper behavior" in the subject line of this topic. Going one step further, trying this same set of improper settings in PS (PS print settings set to "Photoshop Manages Color" with either Perceptual or Rel CM selected, but using "Colorsync" rather than "No Color Adjustment" in the Color Management pane of the EPSON printer driver) yields whacked results as you would expect that look identical to the whacked results obtained from LR using "proper" settings.
I said above that the improper settings from LR yielded results that I would almost say were correct. "Almost" because the benchmark results rendered by PS using proper settings are slightly different - both "better" and closer to each other - than those rendered by LR using the improper settings. The diffs between the Perceptual and Rel CM prints from LR using improper settings showed more marked differences in tone/contrast/saturation than the diffs observed between the Perceptual and Rel CM prints from PS using proper settings - the image itself was in-gamut enough that diffs between Perceptual and Rel CM in the proper PS prints were quite subtle. Even though the improper LR prints were slightly inferior to the proper PS prints, the improper LR prints were still within tolerances of what you might expect, and still better (in terms of color matching) than the "Managed by Printer" print from LR. At first guess, I would attribute this (the improper LR prints being inferior to the proper PS prints) to the CMM being used by LR being different from (inferior to) the CMM I have selected for use in PS (that being "Adobe (ACE)"). I can live with the LR CMM being slightly different from that use

(Here's the 2nd half of my post...)
I said above that the improper settings from LR yielded results that I would almost say were correct. "Almost" because the benchmark results rendered by PS using proper settings are slightly different - both "better" and closer to each other - than those rendered by LR using the improper settings. The diffs between the Perceptual and Rel CM prints from LR using improper settings showed more marked differences in tone/contrast/saturation than the diffs observed between the Perceptual and Rel CM prints from PS using proper settings - the image itself was in-gamut enough that diffs between Perceptual and Rel CM in the proper PS prints were quite subtle. Even though the improper LR prints were slightly inferior to the proper PS prints, the improper LR prints were still within tolerances of what you might expect, and still better (in terms of color matching) than the "Managed by Printer" print from LR. At first guess, I would attribute this (the improper LR prints being inferior to the proper PS prints) to the CMM being used by LR being different from (inferior to) the CMM I have selected for use in PS (that being "Adobe (ACE)"). I can live with the LR CMM being slightly different from that used in PS - that is not the issue here. What is at issue is trying to determine why LR is clearly behaving differently than PS in this well-understood area of functionality, all other variables being the same. (And, incidentally, why am I not seeing other posts raising these same questions?)
My "workaround" is to use "Managed by Printer" for printing rough prints from LR and to do all other printing from PS, especially given the noted diffs in CMM performance between LR and PS and the fact that printing from PS also supports using Photokit Sharpener for high-quality prints. Still it would be nice to understand why this is happening in LR and to be able to print "decent" prints directly from LR when it seemed appropriate.
Any insights or suggestions will be very much appreciated. Please remember to reply to my direct email address ([email protected]) in addition to your public reply to this forum.
Thank you!
/eddie

Print - color management dialog box - how to print

I am a bit confused
with the print CS5 color management settings...
When printing on my HP Design Jet 90 I select I click "print settings in the CS5 print dialog and select "Application Managed Color" in the prinder driver.
However the PS print dialog has additional settings on right side under the Color Management.
I select Photoshop manages colors in the Color Handling drop down to make it consistent with the printer driver selection.
However, I amn not sure what to have under the printer prifile drop down. I tried different options and they change how the picture is printed and this dialog was not as complex in CS4 so I am nont sure what selections to make in order to have the PS manage color. and select everything automatically.
Thanks for your help.

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j_iliz wrote:
Most things that I have read say to let your printer manage colors.
A while back I tested that. Doesn't turn out to be the best strategy in every case: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3421168#3421168
In my own case, with an (old) HP 932c Deskjet, the printer wants to see the sRGB profile, so that's what I have to put when I choose Photoshop Manages Colors.
-Noel

Color-managed printing to Epson 870

I have never succeeded in getting a color-managed print workflow to my Epson Stylus Photo 870 printer using PSE5 (or 4 or 3). The prints are consistently darker than what I see on screen, though the colors otherwise seem about right.
I'm pretty familiar with color management generally, and I have read the tutorials in the Missing Manual and at computer-darkroom.com. I will describe my recent experiments.
Perhaps someone who uses this printer (or a similar Epson printer) can offer some insight. What is noteworthy about these Epson printers is that they come with only a single ICC profile, rather than one profile per media type. The processing to compensate for media differences occurs within the driver. This complicates the color management story.
1. Computer setup: Windows XP SP2, Samsung SyncMaster 193P LCD display.
2. Monitor calibration: This monitor has programmable internal color conversion. I used the MagicTune utility to tune the monitor to sRGB. I then used Adobe Gamma to confirm that this is essentially an sRGB monitor; that is, the profile produced by Adobe Gamma yields an appearance that is indistinguishable from the standard sRGB profile.
3. Photos are JPEGs tagged as sRGB by the camera. I am printing them from PSE5 Organizer. Color management set to "Print" (AdobeRGB). Paper is Epson Glossy Photo Paper. Media type selected in the driver is Photo Paper.
In the following experiments, I varied the Print Space setting in PSE's Print Options and the Custom > Advanced color settings in the Epson driver.
Experiment 1: Print Space: "Same as Source". Driver: "ICM". Result: somewhat dark prints.
Experiment 2: Print Space: "Epson Stylus Photo 870". Driver: "No Color Adjust". Result: even darker prints, with a slight color cast.
Experiment 3: Print Space: "Epson Stylus Photo 870". Driver: "ICM". Result: same as experiment 3.
Experiment 4: Print Space: "Same as Source". Driver: "PhotoEnhance". Result: by far the closest to what I see on the screen, and (subjectively) the best rendition of the original scene.
Of course, experiment 4 is depending on some magic processing in the Epson driver, rather than being a true ICC color-managed workflow. I'd like to figure out why my attempts at a color-managed workflow aren't working right.

"So it seems that Organizer and Editor do color management differently when
printing.... I would not have expected this; it seems like a bug."
My Epson 870 finally died. But, while it was working I did manage to get it
to work very well in a fully color managed workflow. I calibrated my
monitor with a hardware calibration device. The generic 870 ICC profile
that came with the printer gave me prints that were too dark compared to my
calibrated monitor. I had a custom profile made for the printer for each
specific paper I use and that made all the difference. For PSE 3, I always
printed only from the editor and used a fully color managed work flow
specifying the custom printer profile as the print space. The Epson printer
driver was set to custom and in the advanced tab, the "No Color Adjustment"
setting for color management was selected.
I didn't like to print from Organizer because I didn't care for the way it
handled things. The creations portion of Organizer didn't pick up all the
organizer color settings either if I recall correctly. The different
behavior is not so much a bug as it is two different programs that are
packaged together and loosely interact -- Organizer began life as Adobe
Album.
I don't know about PSE 4 and 5 as I went to Photoshop CS2 instead of
upgrading PSE. I still have PSE 3 installed, but I seldom use it anymore.
I would have thought that the newer versions would have done something about
the Organizer printing issues but it sounds like that hasn't happened yet.

LR 2 color management printing woes with B9180

I have been going nuts trying to get accurate prints with LR2 and the HP B9180 (I use a Mac with Leopard 10.5). When I set "Managed by Printer" in LR2, and then click on Print to open up the B9180 print driver dialog, under the "Color Matching" tab the "Vendor Matching" option is selected, and there is no way to change this since it's grayed out. I thought Vendor Matching means that color management is turned off in the printer driver! That would mean there is no profile selected for the print.
Alternatively, if I choose a color profile in LR2, and then click the Print button, under the "Color Matching" tab the "Colorsync" option is selected and there is no way for me to unselect it and choose Vendor Matching instead since the selections are grayed out. In that case it seems I am double profiling.
Do I misunderstand how this is supposed to work? I have a calibrated display. I wish the B9180 just has a button that said "no color management" but it doesn't....
Thanks,
Peter

DYP,
Nope using home made profiles using Spyder3Print.
I don't need to touch the ColorSync Utility.
From what I have read about 10.5 printing and the HP, when you are using an application to color manage, 10.5 will turn off color management in the printer driver automatically. So all I do, is select the profile in Lightroom, and set the paper type/quality the same as when I created the profile (I have a preset in the print dialogue for this) and then print.
Using the CU work around is a pain and it should not have to work like that. Changing profiles should not have to go through hoops and using a bunch of different apps just to print.
Have a look at Russell Brown's video as well. It's linked on my DPReview reply.
Shrey
PS The other way of printing with profiles on the B9180 is to add the custom profiles in the Custom Paper option in the HP Printer Utility. Then in Lightroom select Managed by Printer and in the printer dialogue, select the custom paper and either AdobeRGB or ColorSmart. That worked well while Lightroom's printing in 1.4 was messed up.

FWIW: Advanced Color Management with HP printers

As I mentioned in another thread my HP Deskjet 5650 is beginning to fail so I'm in the market. As much as I like the hard won results and convenient availability of supplies I'm tired of not being able to over-ride HP's color management and let Elements control the printer's color space.
After some very frustrating research on HP's site I am surprised to learn that the following full size printers allow exactly that and quite a few of their 4x6/5x7 printers, too:
Deskjet 5420v, 5440, 5740, 5940, 6500, 6620, 6830 and 6840 Series
Photosmart 7960, 7850, 8050, 8250, 8250v, 8250xi, and 8253 Series
The research was frustrating because very few of the technical pages for those models mention that color can be managed by the application.
Finally a search of their support site for "Advanced Color Management" brought up the list.

I have the same problem - no idea what to do to correct. Yesterday I replaced the magenta cartridge and within an hour it was telling me the cartridge was empty. Turned it off and today when I turned it back on it sees the magenta cartridge as full. Useless as it is tho, with the colors all pink.

CS6: Can't switch off color management in the printerdriver when photoshop manages colors

So this is weird: I'm using CS6 Extended and Lightroom 5 on a Windows 7 Pro machine, printing to an old Canon Pixma Ip5200R. When i print from Lightroom, i am using a special printer profile for the pixma and my photopaper, so color management is switched off in the printer driver. The photos print fine.
Now when i print the same photo from CS6, it has a magenta color cast, so clearly something is wrong with the color management. Even though i am using the same printer, the same paper, the same printer profile and - of course! - had set photoshop to manage the colors, and switched color managent off in the printer driver. The magenta cast could be an indication that the photo is double colormanaged.
It took my quite a while to find out what happens, and this is really weird: When i re-checked the printer driver settings, i noticed that the color management settings did not stick. The canon printer driver offers the options "driver matching" "windows ICM" "none", e.g. having color management done by the printer driver or windows, or switch color management off. So when i go to the PS print settings and set it to "photoshop manages colors", add the correct printer profile, i have to check the settings in the printer driver and make sure that color management is set to "none". I set it to "none" and click OK. Now everything should be configured correctly. But it's not - because when i re-check the print driver settings, i see color management is set to "diver matching". I can go to the print driver settings again and agian, but whenever i check, color management is set to "driver matching". This setting simply does not stick. No wonder i get a mangenta cast on my prints, the colors are doublemanaged by photoshop AND my printer driver.
Now, this is getting weirder: Only the color management settings don't stick. I can change other settings like print quality and the stick.
But - how do i get rid of this? The culprit seems to be photoshop, not the printer driver. If i print from lightroom, i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver and they stick. When i set the photoshop print dialogue to "printer manages colors" i can change the color management settings in the (very same) printer driver - and they stick! So this looks as if photoshop stops me intentionally from using the correct printer driver settings, that is from switching off the printer drivers color management if it is set to manage colors.
I have already resetted my personal photoshop preferences, but this changed nothing. What am i missing? What is going wrong? Your help is very appreciated.
Tobias

Hi all, Just to let you know that I finally solved my problem myself.
Essentially what had occurred was that I had updated my Epson driver for my printer , but it hadn't installed, despite informing me that it had! To cut a long story short when I checked in System preferences the older driver for Leopard O/S was still the current driver. I proceeded to ask Epson support for assistance, bu despite their efforts I could not immediately resolve the problem. They were directing me to my Utilities program to remove all traces of my current driver from Printer Utility which did not exist. When I queried this they stated it was not always visible and I should proceed to the next step then install the new driver. Problem was they required me to access this invisible utility in order to complete this process, and yes before you ask I had informed them I was using an Intel Mac with Snow Leopard 10.6.2 O/S. Finally I ignored their advice and took the following steps:
1. I opened System Preferences and double clicked the Printer & Fax icon.
2. I highlighted my Epson R2400 Pinter and removed it by clicking the minus sign at the bottom of the Printers window.
3. Next I did a search and deleted any old drivers for my R2400 that were on my system with the exception of the new Driver.
4. I restarted my Mac Pro.
5. I reinstalled my new printer driver which I had previously downloaded from Epson Support.
6. I restarted my Mac Pro and found that the new driver had installed correctly and full functionality had been returned to the Print Features Dialogue box i.e I could now turn of color management and access advanced features to set the quality of printing using the full spec of the R2400.
Hope this post will be helpful to others if they have a similar problem
Regards Denis
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Color Management issues with Illustrator

Can someone help me figure out the color management issues I'm getting when printing on an Epson 3880 from Illustrator?
The image comes out severely red as evident on the face. I'm not getting the same problem when printing from Photoshop, even though I set same paper profile in printing dialog box.
I attached two printed picture (one from Photoshop CC, and one from Illustrator CC) that I took with my iphone so that you can see the printed result. Even when I try to simulate same thing using illustrator soft proofing process, the soft proof does not show me anything close to how it gets printed out. And I tried all device simulations to see if any would match it. Im using CMYK SWOP v2 for Color space in both programs.

Dougfly,
Only an hour wasted? Lucky you. Color is an incredibly complex subject. First, forget matching anything to the small LCD on the back of your camera. That's there as a basic guide and is affected by the internal jpg algorithm of your camera.
2nd, you're not really takeing a color photo with your digital camera, but three separate B&W images in a mosaic pattern, exposed thru separate red, green and blue filters. Actual color doesn't happen until that matrix is demosaiced in either your raw converter, or the in-camera processor (which relies heavily on camera settings, saturation, contrast, mode, etc.)
Having said the above, you can still get very good, predictable results in your workflow. I have a few color management articles on my website that you might find very helpful. Check out the Introduction to Color Management and Monitor and Printer Profiling. In my opinion, a monitor calibration device is the minimum entry fee if you want decent color.
http://www.dinagraphics.com/color_management.php
Lou

No Color Management will activate ColorSync?

Dear all,
I'm trying to print out the profiling target via Photoshop CS4. As usual, I made sure my target is Untagged; under print preview I choose "No Color Management"; Under Epson Printer Driver, I choose "No Color Adjustment" with the correct settings for that specific paper. After I print out the target and waited for 48 hrs, then I start to scan my sheets and creat a profile with it. But when I compare the custom made profile to the generic profile, it is almost half of the size smaller. I've tried with different types of paper, profiling software (ProfileMaker, i1Match, MonacoProfiler, Pulse) and printers including 2880, 4880 and 9880. They all came out the same way. I've been told that the ColorSync is activated by Photoshop even I've already selected "No Color Management" under Print Preview and ColorSync will automatically assign the default paper profile for that printer. Please can someone tells me is there any solution for this issue?
My settings:
Intel based MacPro
OSX 10.5.8 with the latest Update
ColorSync (The latest version)
Photoshop CS4 with the latest Update
Epson Printer (2880, 4880, 9880) with the latest driver
Thanks
Aaron

My testing would seem to suggest that the problem arises just after CS4 sends the target to the driver. What I have found, and it was also stated on other forums, was that if I assign a profile of "generic RGB" and set the colorsync default space to "generic RGB" I get a target sent to the Epson driver that goes thru a NULL profile conversion and thus unchanged. Turning color management off in the driver then prints the target with output looking like I expected. All of this seems to me to suggest that colorsync (Apple) is the issue. This would also seem to be the thoughts of others on this forum.
So... My question to Adobe, who should have far more pull with Apple than I, is what is being done to resolve this issue and that when something is sent to the driver with "NO COLOR MANAGEMENT" it truly means ZERO color management in the workflow? I understand that this issue will never be experienced by casual users of the product but it is affecting most of the professional / higher end users.
John
If you had really bothered to read all the forum threads here and elsewhere, you would be aware that old drivers or bad installs of drivers is the problem here that causes the double profiling with Apple new printing path.
My question to you is what do you expect Adobe or Apple to do about this when most all current SL drivers for current printers work correctly? Whose fault is it if the printer manufactures choose not to support new OSs for there old legacy printers?
You have a lots of choices or workarounds to print correct color.
Use old or other OSs, drivers, that support your old printer.
Use workarounds that some of us have come up with.
Print with applications that use the old print path.
Purchase new printers with drivers that support the new OS.
Complain to Epson if that is your printer of choice.

Color management, PS5 and Epson 3880

Hi
I need help with printing on my new 3880 through Photoshop CS5 on an iMac 10.6.8. Using Photoshop CS5 as 'color handling'-- the color mode is greyed out (can't change it) in the print settings. How can I change the color modes? Mostly turn off color management so I can use ICC printer profiles?
Thanks
L

I've got the Epson Stylus Pro 3880 and Color Handling > Color Mode is grayed-out in CS2 and CS3 using the Mac driver 6.6 on OSX10.5.8. I'm not sure why that part of the driver's print dialog is disabled, but no matter. Take a look at my screens below ( note: these are from Tiger OSX10.4.11 via CS2, but should apply to your arrangement:
Above just use the RGB from your PS Color Settings, here I set it for Adobe RGB and whatever paper you are using...
And above I set Color Management using "Color Controls" and again, the reference to Adobe RGB in the "Mode".
So, I believe I would use the Color Management > Printer Manages Color ( see next screen shot below from OSX 10.5.8 and CS3 )...
In all dialogs, Adobe RGB is used mainly because it was established in the document's Color Mode Settings from Photoshop.
Try these settings above, they work for me.
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Color management........again SORRY!

OK, I know this topic is like fingernails on a chalkboard, however I have not been able to understand or solve my issues after months of trying.... I have a very simple setup (and also very simple needs...):
PE 5.0
Epson RX-700 printer
Colorvision Spyder2
Nikon D70
I can NOT get prints from any image that I modify in PE. In fact, the only time I can get a reasonably matched print is if I utilize the PhotoEnhance setting within my Epson configuration and no modification has been done within PE. All of my prints come out with an apparent 2-3 stop underexposure when I print a PE modified image. Modifications range from unsharp mask to a few layers, but nothing very fancy or involved.
My question:
1. There are many options for printer color space; sRGB, EPSON sRGB, NIKON sRGB, etc. Which would be optimal? My camera is set to sRGB, though I've tried Adobe RGB with the same results.
I would rather have PE color manage, but when I set the printer to do no color management, I get the above results.
Any suggestions on things to try, things I've overlooked, or anything in general?
Any help is very much appreciated...
Dave

OK, I know this topic is like fingernails on a chalkboard, however I have not been able to understand or solve my issues after months of trying.... I have a very simple setup (and also very simple needs...):
PE 5.0
Epson RX-700 printer
Colorvision Spyder2
Nikon D70
I can NOT get prints from any image that I modify in PE. In fact, the only time I can get a reasonably matched print is if I utilize the PhotoEnhance setting within my Epson configuration and no modification has been done within PE. All of my prints come out with an apparent 2-3 stop underexposure when I print a PE modified image. Modifications range from unsharp mask to a few layers, but nothing very fancy or involved.
My question:
1. There are many options for printer color space; sRGB, EPSON sRGB, NIKON sRGB, etc. Which would be optimal? My camera is set to sRGB, though I've tried Adobe RGB with the same results.
I would rather have PE color manage, but when I set the printer to do no color management, I get the above results.
Any suggestions on things to try, things I've overlooked, or anything in general?
Any help is very much appreciated...
Dave

Color Management in an HP C510a Photosmart printer

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