Color Management: Results differ between Lightroom and ColorSync

Hi. I'm on a Mac and using LightRoom 3 with a Canon PIXMA MG5250 printer.
I have read elsewhere on the web that choosing a profile from within Lightroom's Print interface is essentially the same as selecting "Color Sync" under "Color Matching" in the print dialog (as opposed to "Canon Color Matching") and then selecting the prifile there. The only difference is in what interface you use to pass the same instructions to the driver. And sure enough, when I select a profile in LR, the options under "Color Matching" are disabled (with the "Color Sync" radio button selected). The only thing is:
Selecting the profile in Lightroom produces a slightly brighter image.
I printed the same image on the same piece of paper side by side. First one image with CM from LR. Then I refed the sheet, moved the image over to the other side and printed again with CM set to ColorSync and profile selected in the print dialog. The latter produced noticably richer (and more desireable) blacks.
Should this be possible?

Back at work and my wide gamut monitors, and now I see the problem very clearly.
Lr Develop and Photoshop are basically in agreement, although there is the weird banding in the Photoshop version. The differences are all in the red channel, so here's once again how the full screenshot looks - the first as is, the second with a curves layer to make it clearer:
So let's forget the histogram for now (although the clipping still makes me suspicious) and figure out which version is the correct one. I tend to trust Photoshop, but there is one known bug that affects Prophoto files with Open GL "on" only. All other color spaces go clear of it. This could well be it, because it causes colored banding in shadow areas. The bug is acknowledged but still not resolved.
So try to turn off Open GL in Photoshop and see if the banding goes away.
If it does, and Lightroom Develop/Photoshop are in agreement, I'd probably leave it at that and settle for Jao's explanation above. As has been said before, the fact that there is a difference is in itself no mystery, since the previews are rendered into Adobe RGB and Develop uses linear Prophoto.
And then I'd recalibrate the monitor, making sure that it's properly warmed up, just to be safe.
I'll try to duplicate this when I get time, using images with similar deep blue tones. But my monitors are Flexscans, not Coloredges, and the Eizo profiling software is different, so it's not directly comparable.

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based on ur query.. Billing and Invoice are one and the same.. the difference is that in general business terminology Billing means the process of crediting the customer to the certain sum of money either by cash or credit, for the goods or services purchased by him... this process consists of many other documents like credit note, debit note, invoice, etc.
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