Color manager bug in illustrator cs5

i try to change objects colors via the color manager with a cmyk code for the new color. the color of layers i changed already changes while i'm changing the other layers. It takes 5-6 time before the right color stay. why? is it a bug? i would like to set the same color for all layers ...thanks

Confirmed this is being generated entirely in CS5. I opened the font Sabon. I created a text box. I pasted in some generic type I had just made in text edit. I changed the font to Sabon and the paragraph to justify. I saved and closed the document and closed Illustrator. I closed Sabon and opened Sabon from another foundry. I opened Illustrator and opened the document. All looked good. I duplicated the text box over and outlined the type. I went into the font manager and closed Sabon. I opened the original Sabon. DING! Type reflow. I saved as a second document. I copied the outlined type and closed the document. I opened the original document (note the original font is open). No problems. I paste the outlined type (type outlined with the wrong version of the font active) and it lands exactly in place. I open the second document. The type that reflowed now gives me the stupid message about another version of Illustrator screwing it up. I hit OK and the type reflows back to the way it is supposed to be.
This proves that the kerning changes weren't due to differences between the fonts. This proves that Illustrator CS5 has a MAJOR type engine bug that could easily spell disaster in production.

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Major font substitution bug in Illustrator CS5

Hi all,
This took me a good long time to track down, and since I didn't find any information here and Adobe technical support was no help, I figured I'd post the result. Happy new year.
Here was the problem. Working in CS5, intermittently we would get font reflow issues. In addition, when going to edit the type boxes with font reflow, we would get the message, "This text was created in a different version of Illustrator. Editing the text may cause some changes to your text layout. Basic formatting will not be affected. Do you want to continue?" Please note it says "different version" rather than "previous version". These files originated and stayed in Ilustrator CS5! If we hit OK, the type would snap back to the original state!!! Worse, if the type was copied and pasted, or anything in character or paragraph styles was edited, it would snap back without ANY warning. Now you see it... now you don't. Major problem in any print environment.
So here is what I found, and this is a CS5 exclusive. If you are working on a file and have a font set open which includes a font from one foundry, and then opened another document and activated a font set with an identical font from a different foundry (the original font closing), the kerning for the original document (in the background now) would be set to zero (rather than auto) and the font would reflow. If you didn't notice the reflow, and saved the file, well it would create the condition as described above. Of course it isn't ideal to have the font foundry change like that, but bottom line usually you could get away with it... maybe with one or two characters moving slightly. In the new CS5 world, Illustrator decides you really don't need ANY kerning pair information and then helpfully tells you it was a "different" version of Illustrator that caused this. Heh.
What a mess. Bottom line, make sure your font management application is set to throw warnings when conflicting fonts are opened, and most importantly, leave the original font open! Do not allow the new font to be opened until the conflict is resolved.
If your font management application does not have this option (Universal Type Server 1 did not), you better upgrade or forget about using Illustrator CS5 in a heavy production environment.
Adobe, this was a major change and a major headache. You have some explaining to do...

Confirmed this is being generated entirely in CS5. I opened the font Sabon. I created a text box. I pasted in some generic type I had just made in text edit. I changed the font to Sabon and the paragraph to justify. I saved and closed the document and closed Illustrator. I closed Sabon and opened Sabon from another foundry. I opened Illustrator and opened the document. All looked good. I duplicated the text box over and outlined the type. I went into the font manager and closed Sabon. I opened the original Sabon. DING! Type reflow. I saved as a second document. I copied the outlined type and closed the document. I opened the original document (note the original font is open). No problems. I paste the outlined type (type outlined with the wrong version of the font active) and it lands exactly in place. I open the second document. The type that reflowed now gives me the stupid message about another version of Illustrator screwing it up. I hit OK and the type reflows back to the way it is supposed to be.
This proves that the kerning changes weren't due to differences between the fonts. This proves that Illustrator CS5 has a MAJOR type engine bug that could easily spell disaster in production.

Color variations from Adobe Illustrator CS5 to Acrobat 9 (PDF)

I'm a new designer who is trying to solve issues of color variations when I create a PDF file from Illustrator CS5. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to ensure that the colors match from application to application? Do I need to select certain settings for RGB, CYMK, or other color libraries (i.e., Pantone)? Thanks for the help!

If you are creating your PDF using Save As > PDF or Print > PDF; your selections in Illustrator's Color Settings should go with the file. However, it could also be the settings you choose when you create the PDF. I use Distiller where I can use the same settings from Illustrator and have them embedded in the PDF when distilled. The key being that settings match when you create the PDF.

Preview panel loses Color Management after Minimize Bridge CS5

Whenever I minimize the Bridge CS5 application window to the Windows taskbar, upon restoring or maximizing the Bridge application window the image(s) currently showing in the Preview panel no longer appear color managed (they look exactly as they would appear from a non-color-managed app.) In order to see them as color managed again, I have to either de/re-select their thumbnails or double click the Preview panel twice (once to minimize it, and once again to restore it.) Otherwise resizing the Preview panel has no impact on the color. The thumbnails in the Content panel are fine. This did NOT occur in CS4 or earlier versions of Bridge - otherwise the same environment.
I have a wide-gamut monitor, which causes many non-color-managed images to look super saturated, especially reds & greens, so it is probably much easier to notice this behavior in this environment than from a typical-gamut monitor.
Windows 7, x64, ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics card, Bridge v4.0.3.9
Anyone else notice this annoyance?

Thanks Curt,
I doubt this is a video issue as no other versions of Bridge behave this way on this system. I have the same preference settings in Bridge CS5 as for Bridge CS4 - which works fine. Nor does Photoshop exhibit this behavior post-minimizing, & Photoshop behaves perfectly for all the OpenGL Drawing settings (which I have set to Advanced in PS.) Bridge just seems to poorly manage the Preview panel color post-minimizing the application window, but otherwise everything displays fine during operation. I'd be surprised if it was just me but if it is, it's an easy enough annoyance to work around. I'd imagine that this isn't too observable on a normal-gamut monitor.
I tried your suggestion of "use software rendering", just in case, but it made no difference. Appreciate the idea though...
One more observation:
While thumbnails are being generated for the first time on large images, they also have the non-color-managed appearance until they complete their generating, at which time they take the managed appearance - but I just consider that a processing-timing final step & it hasn't changed behavior from previous versions of Bridge.

Color Management issues with Illustrator

Can someone help me figure out the color management issues I'm getting when printing on an Epson 3880 from Illustrator?
The image comes out severely red as evident on the face. I'm not getting the same problem when printing from Photoshop, even though I set same paper profile in printing dialog box.
I attached two printed picture (one from Photoshop CC, and one from Illustrator CC) that I took with my iphone so that you can see the printed result. Even when I try to simulate same thing using illustrator soft proofing process, the soft proof does not show me anything close to how it gets printed out. And I tried all device simulations to see if any would match it. Im using CMYK SWOP v2 for Color space in both programs.

Dougfly,
Only an hour wasted? Lucky you. Color is an incredibly complex subject. First, forget matching anything to the small LCD on the back of your camera. That's there as a basic guide and is affected by the internal jpg algorithm of your camera.
2nd, you're not really takeing a color photo with your digital camera, but three separate B&W images in a mosaic pattern, exposed thru separate red, green and blue filters. Actual color doesn't happen until that matrix is demosaiced in either your raw converter, or the in-camera processor (which relies heavily on camera settings, saturation, contrast, mode, etc.)
Having said the above, you can still get very good, predictable results in your workflow. I have a few color management articles on my website that you might find very helpful. Check out the Introduction to Color Management and Monitor and Printer Profiling. In my opinion, a monitor calibration device is the minimum entry fee if you want decent color.
http://www.dinagraphics.com/color_management.php
Lou

Color management bug?

Hi,
the following problem arised:
(1) Developed Canon raw file (.cr2) to BW then dual toned (in German: Teiltonung)
(2)exported to PS CS3 (with LR settings applied, I think the other options were greyed out)
The images in Lightroom and PS look significantly different. Developed to Adobe RGB (PS work color space). Color settings (preserve embedded profiles..., ask...)
I use Windows XP Home on a Dual Core 2.4 GHz, 4 GB RAM, ATI X1300 Video (256 GB), EIZO L568. Windows installation si relatively fresh (6 weeks).
Within the last years I established a consistent color management:
Soft proofs in Photoshop match very well my prints on Epson R2400 (in part using self made profiles for other than Epson paper)or on Fuji Crystal Archive (images converted to the FF Frontier PD/no convert profile, sent to the lab which whas asked to processed the image in the PD/no convert mode). I was fully satisfied - until this Lightroom behavior confused me.
Nevertheless, accepting that something might be wrong with my workflow I checked the following:
As I realized the differences between PS and LR I used a v4 icc profile for the monitor (Eye One display 2, basiccolor display 3.1, loaded into monitor LUT). I then recalibrated the monitor, now with basiccolor display 4.1, v2 icc profile loaded in the video LUT. Same difference between Lightroom and Photoshop. In a next step I used the EIZO made monitor profile: Same difference. I then completely disabled colormanagement (removing all monitor profiles within the control panel) for the monitor: same difference. Of course, PC was shut down between the experiments, video LUT loader were enabled/disabled as required for the experiments.
My conclusion:
Lightroom's color management does not work on my machine while PS is OK !
Additionally: One can assume that this is not related to the operating !
Additional observations:
Images opened in a not color managed application like Firefox are more close to the appearance in Lightroom.
The difference seems to be dependent on the colors in the image. With more naturally looking images (flesh tones in portraits) it is not so obvious.
The difference in appearance is there for psd files already stored in the database, too.
What do you think?
Uli

Hi Uli,
I can reproduce the problem on my machine as well. It's a PC laptop running WinXP MCE, with a crappy, but calibrated, screen. Sorry, I have no access to a better screen right now. Calibration software is Monaco OptixXR, as a startup LUT loader I use Microsoft's new color applet.
I can see a difference in screen representation when viewing the same file side by side in Lightroom and Photoshop CS2. It's not always obvious with generic color photos, but with split toned B&Ws it shows up very clearly, mostly in the shadows. It seems to happen with all different file types. I tested raw files in Lightroom exported to 16-bit ProPhoto PSDs and 8-bit AdobeRGB files created in Photoshop.
I also have three comments on the earlier posts:
1) The fact that subtracting a Lightroom-converted file from a Photoshop converted file gives all zeros, indicates that there is nothing wrong with Lightroom's internal color space transformations. The problem seems to be restricted to the display transformation, and limited to Windows as well.
2) It is no surprise that the Lightroom histogram deviates from the one in Photoshop, as Lightroom's histogram is calculated in a hybrid space that uses the ProPhoto primaries and the sRGB tone response curve (similar to gamma 2.2)
3) Lightroom gives no options to select the rendering intent for export. That is not as strange as it seems, because the available color spaces ProPhoto, AdobeRGB and sRGB, are all 'display color spaces'. This implies that the only two possible rendering intents are relative colorimetric and absolute colorimetric. As Lightroom is not addressing proofing needs, I figure that the choice for relative colorimetric conversion has been made for us. Not a bad thing, IMO.
I do hope that this issue will be addressed. Uli, have you submitted an official bug report?? It certainly *would* be nice if someone from Adobe could leave a notice that this thread has been read.
Simon

Placing Photoshop files in Illustrator CS5 results in wrong percentages of spot colors?

When placing a native PSD file into Illustrator CS5 that includes different percentages of spot colors they will be different than what was specified in Photoshop. The spot colors are overlaying CMYK to create a see thru look.
For example if the spot color is 40% it will end up being 16%. 100% will stay at 100%, but any other percentage will be different than what is entered in Photoshop.
We are able to see the difference when creating a PDF or when the file is output to our high end printer. It can also be visually seen when putting an Illustrator CS4 and and Illustrator CS5 side by side.
I can take the same PSD file and place it into Illustrator CS4 and it retains the percentage that is entered in Photoshop. All percentages match the percentages that are entered in Photoshop when a PDF is created or printed to our printer.
I have tried saving the PSD file out as a Tiff file and a DCS2.0 file and get the same results in Illustrator CS5.
Is there a bug in Illustrator CS5 or should we handle our Spot Color Scans a different way? We never had this issue with any previous version of Illustrator.
Any suggestions or solutions would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hi Mike,
I understand what your saying but I should have mentioned that the Spot Colors are actually overlaying the CMYK in Photoshop not in Illustrator CS5. When this scan gets placed in Illustrator the Spot Colors values are different. There is no art below the scan in Illustrator. Hope this makes it a little clearer on what were trying to do.
Also remember that it works just fine in any version of Illustrator before CS5.
Thanks

Change Default Soft Proof Color – Illustrator CS5.1

Short Question:
How to change the default soft color proof setting in Illustrator CS5.1?
Backstory:
Every time a document is opened in Illustrator CS5.1, it defaults to Working CMYK soft color proof. For those that work in web, the default soft proof color space of CMYK results in dull colors. This means that every time a new document is opened, the soft color proof settings need to be changed manually. There's got to be a way to change the default soft color proof settings in Illustrator? I know it's possible in Photoshop already.
Many Thanks!

You could try if either a custom Workspace or Document profile does the trick:
http://blogs.adobe.com/infiniteresolution/2009/05/startup_profiles_a_great_tool.html

Indesign CS5 Color Management Policies

Hello All,
I have just been having a look at Indesign CS5 Color Management Policies...
Can anyone clarify the following for me?
From my testing it looks like
1.) When placing an image into an indesign page the embedded icc profile is ignored and the "document profile" is used unless it is manually selected by the user in either (show import options) or (object > Image color Settings). This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
2.) When placing an image into an indesign page greyscale profiles are also ignored and and all mono images are simply lumped into a "greyscale" colour space with no way to assign a particular profile or keep an embedded profile etc. This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
3.) When placing an image into an indesign page there is also no way to manage the color of illustrator files. Embedded profiles are ignored in ai files. This is despite the fact that the color settings are set to preserve embedded profiles.
looks like a bug to me...
I am currently running indesign 7.0 on Mac OS 10.6.7

can you point me to any information on what is managed by the documents policy and what is managed by the application's policy?
Also, any idea what the reasoning behind having a document policy is? why not just let the application policy determine how to interpret everything?
Color Settings is a preference—there's no setting that would work for any condition (that includes Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS Off).
The Color Management Policies setting is your global preference for how newly created documents will handle document and link profiles. Having the policy preference set at creation prevents unexpected profile changes as a document is passed from one user to another. The Ask When Opening check boxes give you the option to change existing document policies, which I described in post 7.
The policies let you control if existing CMYK color is allowed to be converted to a different CMYK space or not.
If the CMYK policy is set to Off then the newly created doc is not assigned a CMYK profile and all link profiles are ignored. In this case the document colors and the links are all color managed by the current Color Settings CMYK Working Space. The preview of all CMYK color in the document will change depending on current working space, but the output numbers will not.
Preserve Numbers (Ignore Linked Profiles) assigns the current CMYK Working Space to the new document and any placed links have their profiles ignored—the document profile is used instead. In this case the preview of all CMYK color (including links) comes from the assigned document profile, which travels with the document. After creation changing the Color Settings CMYK Working Space has no effect on the doc, its assigned profile is always used.
Preserve Embedded Profiles assigns the current CMYK working space to the new document and any placed links have their profiles honored. In this case the assigned doc profile drives the preview of the document color and links with out profiles, while links with embedded profiles are previewed via their profile. If the link's profile conflicts with the document profile, it will be converted to new CMYK numbers on export or print.
If the policy is Convert to Working Space the document colors are converted to the current CMYK Working Space and that profile is assigned to the document every time the document is opened when the working space conflicts with the assignment. Links are not converted but their profiles are honored.
Also would changing my color settings to "Emulate Adobe Indesign 2.0 CMS off" be considered to be a change of "application policy" or would this also effect my "document policy"?
There's never a good reason to use this setting. It would be the same as a CMYK and RGB Off policy except the Working Space profiles are some unknown—you don't have the option of choosing them.

Color management in Illustrator CS6 and InDesign CS 6-settings & workflow questions.

I've read the color management posts and the Adobe help file regarding the Pantone + libraries and the new differences between CS5 & 6. However I'm still a bit confused as to just what my settings should be, and a few posts offer different pieces of advice, so I'm looking for clarification. I don't need to work with legacy CS files, so I don't want to swap out the old Pantone libraries for the Plus ones. However I still have my old Pantone Solid, Coated and Uncoated swatchbooks and until I can afford the new Plus swatchbooks, I'll depend on those. I'm hoping the difference between Pantone 321U and Pantone+ 321 is not great.
If I'm preparing a file for print and to be placed into an InDesign CS6 document for print, I know both document color modes should be CMYK—got that. In Illustrator CS6, I'm assuming I would use a Pantone+ Uncoated swatch (remember I'm using the old Pantone Uncoated swatch book as a visual guide and praying that the difference isn't too noticeable.)
1. In the Swatch settings pallette, should I set the Spot Color option to use the first choice—use LAB values specified by the book manufacturer, or use CMYK values from the manufacturer process books.
2. In the View menu, should I select Overprint Preview to get a (more or less-I know the drill) closer monitor color to what will be printed.
I don't want to fool around with trying to set the CMYK values as listed in Pantone Color Bridge CMYK EC (found on Scribed here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/33104/Pantoner-Color-BridgeTm-Cmyk-Ec ), and I'm not even sure of the point in doing so or what it would do for me.
What I want is to depend on a swatch book, select the named swatch from the Pantone library, have all my settings set properly, then place it in InDesign, then send the file to a digital printer and get as close an approximation to the swatch book selection as possible. I need monitor color settings to reflect the swatches as best possible.
When I can afford it, should I opt for the Pantone+ Coated and Uncoated swatchbooks, or the Color Bridge? I'm usure of the difference, and if there are any Illustrator or InDesign settings that would need to be changed depending.
As a corollary to this questions, once the settings are OK in Illustrator, what do they need to be in InDesign? There are settings for Ink Manager (all spots to process or use standard LAB values for spots, the Color palette has check options for LAB, CMYK, RGB.
I'm not sure what needs to be set in InDesign to make sure colors are consistent between what is set in Illustrator and then what InDesign does.

Let me try to help you further:
1. In Illustrator's Swatch settings pallette, should the Spot Color Mode option be set to use:
a. CMYK
b. LAB
c. Book Color (not sure if this refers to the pantone swatchbook)
- I would use "c" - Book Color. This is the file going to the printer which will use Spot Color on press. For a copy of the file to be output by your Canon, use "a" - CMYK.
2. In the View menu should Overprint Preview be checked, and why, and would it differ based on the settings for #1.
- Only if the color was transparent ( which it isn't ) would overprint preview be of any use or you use a tint value of the Spot color and a black, but even then you may not be able to detect any change in the screen view. I typically do not use any overprint preview and I do not rely on the monitor for any color deisions. You could be different and that is OK. Let me know if you are able to detect any deviates using overprint preview.
I'm sorry for being a little short. There is a lot of confusion about these issues and Adobe and Pantone are not making things any easier.
The key is your Canon will not be able to print accurate Spot color without a RIP for the necessary color tables and conversions for that particular printer. In your case, it will be necessary to build a CMYK file to print a somewhat approximate representation of that specific Spot color. Another frustrating part of this matrix is CMYK cannot match all Pantone Spot Colors.

Error Message:Can't print illustration. Color Management systems inconsistent.

I am getting this error message, "Can't print illustration. Color management systems are inconsistent." I just upgraded to CS5(from CS2) on a Dell Studio using an Epson WorkForce 1100 or an Epson Sylus NX400. I am a rank amateur in AI & have no idea how to fix this. I do not seem to have the option to turn off color management in either of my printers to default to AI. All I am trying to print are some labels using regular fonts and a few smoke brushes for color. These are not wildly colorful or complicated. I KNOW I should be using a Mac but I do not have one...sigh...
Thanks for ANY help.
Marion.

not sure I understand the core problem...but what happens if you Save As "Adobe PDF" and Convert to your Print Space there in Output (then print from Acrobat or place in InDesign, heck maybe even open the .pdf in Ai and try again):

Bug in Illustrator CS2-CS5.1 beim SVG Speichern

Mittlerweile ist klar, das ist ein Fehler im Programm, getestet mit Illustrator CS2, CS4 und CS5.1 .
Was muss man wo tun um ein Hotfix zu erhalten?
Wohin muss ich mich da wenden und was kostet's ggf.?
Eine Kollegin hat herausgefunden, dass Illustrator bei eingestellter Codierung UTF-8 nicht in UTF-8 exportiert, sondern in ANSI.
Wenn UTF-8 drauf steht, aber ANSI drin ist, passt das natürlich nicht zusammen
D.h. im XML Quelltext steht UTF-8 drin, aber es ist eigentlich ANSI, das führt dann zu Interpretationsfehlern.
Witzigerweise kann AI sein gerade gespeichertes SVG noch nicht mal selbst öffnen.
Beispiel:
Öffnet das Pseudo-UTF SVG mal mit den normalen Windows Editor, anschließend geht ihr auf "Speichern unter", der Editor schlägt vor, in ANSI zu speichern, heißt die Datei ist eigentlich ANSI kodiert. Speichert man das SVG mit dem Editor dann nicht unter ANSI, sondern als UTF-8 ab, gibt es plötzlich keine Anzeigefehler mehr, weder im IE noch im Firefox.
Habe mittlerweile die Möglichkeit gehabt es in CS5.1 zu versuchen, selber Fehler.
Gibts dafür vielleicht schon ein Fix?
Wir steigen nun von CorelDraw auf Illustrator um, zu Testzwecken habe ich im Mom zwar nur CS2 drauf, aber CS5.1 wird folgen.
Es geht darum maussensitive SVG's zu erstellen, d.h. bei einigen Objekten werden Grafikattribute hinterlegt um das SVG hinterher interaktiv machen zu können.
Problem:
Das Grafikattribut ist als "Imagemap: Polygon" gesetzt und sieht in etwa so aus: "Þg;8314;S005Þ"
Problem:
Leider werden Objekte die mit diesem Attribut im SVG später nicht angezeigt(siehe "Link mit Zeichen"). Wenn ich das Thorn "Þ" weglasse, werden die SVG's richtig angezeigt (siehe "Link ohne Zeichen").
Im IE8 werden Objekte im SVG mit diesem Thorn einfach weggelassen, der Rest wird angezeigt.
Im Firefox wird das SVG gar nichtt angezeigt und er gibt einen XML-Verarbeitungsfehler in der entsprechenden Code Zeile aus.

Confirmed this is being generated entirely in CS5. I opened the font Sabon. I created a text box. I pasted in some generic type I had just made in text edit. I changed the font to Sabon and the paragraph to justify. I saved and closed the document and closed Illustrator. I closed Sabon and opened Sabon from another foundry. I opened Illustrator and opened the document. All looked good. I duplicated the text box over and outlined the type. I went into the font manager and closed Sabon. I opened the original Sabon. DING! Type reflow. I saved as a second document. I copied the outlined type and closed the document. I opened the original document (note the original font is open). No problems. I paste the outlined type (type outlined with the wrong version of the font active) and it lands exactly in place. I open the second document. The type that reflowed now gives me the stupid message about another version of Illustrator screwing it up. I hit OK and the type reflows back to the way it is supposed to be.
This proves that the kerning changes weren't due to differences between the fonts. This proves that Illustrator CS5 has a MAJOR type engine bug that could easily spell disaster in production.

Confused about Color Management in CS5 (Photos appearing differently in all other programs)

I recently noticed this and it's been driving me crazy; when I view photos in Photoshop CS5 they appear significantly lighter/more washed out than when viewed in other programs like Zoombrowser, Digital Photo Professional or just in a regular Windows folder using Filmstrip mode (Windows XP). When opening the same photo in both CS5 and Zoombrowser and switching back and forth between the two windows the difference is very apparent...for example, one of the photos I compared was of a person in a black shirt -- in CS5 (lighter/washed out) the folds in the shirt were very obvious, but in Zoombrowser (darker, more contrast/saturation) the folds were nearly invisible and it looked like just solid black. Now, after messing around with the settings in both Photoshop and in Zoombrowser I've found a few ways to get the photos to look the same in the two programs; one way gives them both the lighter/more washed out appearance and another way gives them both the darker appearance with more contrast and saturation. My problem is that I'm not sure which view is accurate.
I use a NEC MultiSync LCD1990SXi monitor with SpectraView II calibration software and calibrate it every 2 weeks using these calibration settings (screenshot): http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8826/settingsx.jpg
In the SpectraView II Software under Preferences there's an option that says "Set as Windows Color Management System Monitor Profile - Automatically selects and associates the generated ICC monitor profile with the Color Management System (CMS)." This option is checked. Also, when I open the Windows' Color Management window there's only one option displayed, which is "LCD1990SXi #######" (the ####### represents my monitor's serial number).
I assume the above settings are all correct so far, but I'm not sure about the rest.
Here are my current default Color Settings in CS5 (screenshot): http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/666/photoshopcolorsettings.jpg
Changing these settings around doesn't seem to make the photo appear much different. However, when I go to Edit -> Assign Profile, then click off of "Working RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and instead click Profile and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" from the drop-down menu, the picture becomes darker with more contrast and saturation and matches the picture in Zoombrowser. Also, if I select "Adobe RGB (1998)" from the drop-down menu it's very similar in terms of increased darkness and contrast but the saturation is higher than with the LCD1990SXi setting. Another way I've found to make the image equally dark with increased contrast and saturation is to go to View -> Proof Setup -> Custom and then click the drop-down menu next to "Device to Simulate" and select "LCD1990SXi ####### 2011-06-21 18-30 D65 2.20" again.
Alternatively, to make both images equally light and washed out I can go to Zoombrowser -> Tools -> Preferences and check the box next to "Color Management: Adjust colors of images using monitor profile." This makes the image in Zoombrowser appear just like it does in CS5 by default.
Like I said, I'm confused as to which setting is the accurate one (I'm new to Color Management in general so I apologize for my ignorance on the subject).
It would seem that assigning the LCD1990SXi profile in CS5 would be the correct choice in order to match the monitor calibration given the name of the profile but the "Adjust colors of images using monitor profile" option in Zoombrowser sounds like it would do the same thing as well. Also, I've read that Photoshop is a color managed software whereas Zoombrowser and Windows Picture and Fax Viewer are not which makes me think that maybe the lighter/washed out version seen in Photoshop is correct. So which version (light or dark) is the accurate one that I should use to view and edit my photos? Thanks in advance for any help or info.

Sorry for the late reply;
But before we go there or make any assumptions, it's important for
you to determine whether you're seeing consistent color in your
color-managed applications and only inconsistent color in those that are
not color-managed. For that you'll need to do a little research to see
if the applications in which you're seeing darker colors have
color-management capability (and whether it is enabled).
I opened the same picture in 7 different applications and found that the 6 of the 7 displayed the photo equally dark with equally high contrast when compared to the 7th application (CS5). The other 6 applications were Zoombrowser EX, Digital Photo Professional, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, Quicktime PictureViewer, Microsoft Office Picture Manager and Firefox.
However, at least two of these programs offer color management preferences and, when used, display the photo (from what I can tell) exactly the same as Photoshop CS5's default settings. The two programs are two Canon programs: Zoombrowser EX and Digital Photo Professional. Here's the setting that needs to be selected in Zoombrowser in order to match up with CS5 (circled in red):
And here's the setting in Digital Photo Professional that needs to be selected in order to match up with CS5 (again, circled in red):
*Note: When the option above "Monitor Profile" is selected ("Use the OS settings") the image is displayed exactly the same as when the monitor profile is selected. It's only when sRGB is selected that it goes back to the default darker, more contrasty version.
So with the red-circled options selected, all three programs (CS5, ZB, DPP) display the images the same way; lighter and more washed out. What I'm still having trouble understanding is if that ligher, more washed out display is the accurate one or not...I've read several tutorials for all three programs which only make things more confusing. One of the tutorials says to always use sRGB if you want accurate results and *never* to use Monitor Profile and another says that, if you're using a calibrated monitor, you should always select Monitor Profile under the color management settings...so I'm still lost, unfortunately.
What I also don't understand is why, when the monitor profile is selected in CS5, the image is displayed in the dark and contrasty way that the other programs display it as by default but when the monitor profile is selected in Digitial Photo Professional it displays it in the lighter, more washed out way that CS5 displays it using CS5's default settings (sRGB). Why would selecting the monitor profile in DPP display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in Photoshop? And vice versa...why would selecting the monitor profile in Photoshop display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in DPP?
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here...which I probably am. Again, I'm very new to this stuff so pardon my ignorance on the topic.
By the way, I find that the way that the non-color managed programs (Windows Picture and Fax Viewer et al.) display the photos is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the duller, more washed out display that CS5 gives the photos, but ultimately what I want to see in these programs (especially PS5 where I'll be doing the editing) is the accurate representation of the actual photo itself...i.e. what it's supposed to look like and not a darker (or lighter) variant of it.
So just to reiterate my questions:
Why does selecting Monitor Profile under the color management settings in DPP give the same display results as the default sRGB profile in CS5 and vice versa? (CS5 with monitor profile selected having the same display results as DPP with the sRGB profile selected)
When using CS5 with it's default color management settings (sRGB), using DPP with the Monitor Profile selected, and using Zoombrowser EX with "Adjust color of images using monitor profile" selected this results in all three programs displaying the same lighter, washed-out images...is this lighter, more washed-out display of the images shown in these three programs the accurate one?
I noticed when opening an image in Firefox it had the same darker, contrasty look as the other non-color managed applications had. Assuming that the CS5 default settings are accurate, does this mean that if I edit a photo in CS5, save it, and upload it to the internet that other people who are viewing that image online will see it differently than how it's supposed to look (i.e. in a non-color-managed way?) If so, this would seem to indicate that they'd see a less-than-flattering version of the photo since if their browser naturally displays images as darker and more contrasty and I added more darkness and contrast to the image in CS5, they'd be seeing a version of the photo that's far too dark and probably wouldn't look very good. Is this something I have to worry about as well?
I apologize for the lengthy post; I do tend to be a bit OCD about these things...it's a habit I picked up once I realized I'd been improperly editing photos on an incorrectly calibrated monitor for years and all that time and effort had been spent editing photos in a certain way that looked good on my incorrectly calibrated monitor but looked like crap on everyone else's screen, so the length and detail of this post comes from a desire to not repeat similar mistakes by editing photos the wrong way all over again. Again, thanks in advance for all the help, it's greatly appreciated!

In Illustrator CS5, how do I change a single color in a rasterized image?

In Illustrator CS5, I have a rasterized image arranged in front of a blue rectangle on a page that is otherwise blank (screenshot below). The rasterized image has exactly 4 colors. I want to change the light grey color to green. How can I do so?
(Among other things, I have tried to copy-and-paste and export the full page and the rasterized image into Photoshop CS5, but every method that I have tried appears to resample the rasterized image, changing the pixelation and creating many more colors, effects that I do not want.)
Thanks for any help.

AdVictoriam,
Illy is very helpful, but she is no more able to deal with single pixels in a raster image than the rest of us.
Is it really impossible to export the image (as PNG24) and open it in Photoshop, then recolour the grey pixels there?

Adobe Application Manager Update fehlgeschlagen Fireworks Update auf Adobe Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.5, CS5 11.0.2-Aktualisierung, Update für Adobe Extension Manager CS5 5.0, Adobe Illustrator CS5 15.0.2 Aktualisierung

Guten Abend Community, erst einmal bin ich neu hier und leider auch hier, da ich ein Problem habe welches ich einfach nicht gelöst bekomme.
Ich musste mein System kommplett neu Installieren und habe anschließend Adobe Web Premium 5 Installiert was auch ohne Probleme Funktioniert, anschließend habe ich die Updates durcheführt welches auch fast ohne Probleme läuft qalle anderen Updates wurden Installiert bis auf die in der fehlermeldung. was kann ich da machen damit das nicht mehr auftritt ?
PS: Davor ging das auch problemlos, das System habe ich erst vor 3 Tagen neu Aufgesetzt.
Protokol der fehlermeldung
Update auf Adobe Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.5
Beim Herunterladen dieses Updates ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Schließen Sie den Vorgang und versuchen Sie es später erneut. Fehlercode: U43M1D207
Fireworks CS5 11.0.2-Aktualisierung
Beim Herunterladen dieses Updates ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Schließen Sie den Vorgang und versuchen Sie es später erneut. Fehlercode: U43M1D207
Update für Adobe Extension Manager CS5 5.0
Beim Herunterladen dieses Updates ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Schließen Sie den Vorgang und versuchen Sie es später erneut. Fehlercode: U43M1D207
Adobe Illustrator CS5 15.0.2 Aktualisierung
Beim Herunterladen dieses Updates ist ein Fehler aufgetreten. Schließen Sie den Vorgang und versuchen Sie es später erneut. Fehlercode: U43M1D207
Ja ich habe das mehrmals Versucht
Mein System:
Betriebssystem: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
CPU: AMD FX-8350 (8 x 4,00 GHz bzw. 8 x 4,20 GHz im Turbo Modus)
DDR RAM III: 12,0GB Dual Kanal DDR3 @ 664MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G43 (MS-7693) (CPU 1)
Grafik: ASUS VS247 (1920x1080@60Hz)
1023 MBNVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 (Gigabyte)
Speicher:
74GB INTEL SSDSA2M080G2GC (SSD)
1863GB Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH164 (SATA)
Installierte Programme:
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7-Zip 9.20 (x64 edition)
Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro - English, Français, Deutsch
Adobe AIR
Adobe Community Help
Adobe Creative Suite 5 Web Premium
Adobe Extension Manager CS5
Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX
Adobe Flash Player 14 Plugin
Adobe Media Player
Adobe Photoshop Elements 12
Adobe Photoshop Elements 12
Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5.4 64-bit
Adobe Pixel Bender Toolkit 2
Adobe Premiere Elements 12
Adobe Reader XI (11.0.07) - Deutsch
Apple Application Support
Apple Software Update
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BioShock Infinite
Bitdefender Total Security
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CLICKBIOSII
Clive Barker's Jericho
CrystalDiskInfo 6.1.14
CyberGhost 5
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Defraggler
Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut
DHTML Editing Component
Die Siedler 7
DiskCryptor 1.1
Duke Nukem Forever
Elements 12 Organizer
Entity Framework 6.0.1 Tools for Visual Studio Next
Entity Framework 6.1.0 Tools for Visual Studio 2013
Entity Framework Designer für Visual Studio 2012 - DEU
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Free Studio version 2014
Freemake Audio Converter Version 1.1.0
Freemake Video Converter Version 4.1.4
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GIMP 2.8.10
Grand Theft Auto IV
Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City
GRID 2
Hitman: Absolution
Homefront
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IIS Express Application Compatibility Database for x64
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Java SE Development Kit 8 Update 5 (64-bit)
Just Cause
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Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 SDK
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Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.3 Multi-Targeting Pack (ENU)
Microsoft Expression Design 4
Microsoft Expression Encoder 4
Microsoft Expression Encoder 4 Screen Capture Codec
Microsoft Expression Web 4
Microsoft Help Viewer 2.0
Microsoft Help Viewer 2.0 Language Pack - DEU
Microsoft Help Viewer 2.1
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Microsoft Mathematics (64-Bit)
Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2013
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Microsoft SQL Server 2014 Transact-SQL ScriptDom
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Microsoft SQL Server Data Tools - DEU (12.0.30919.1)
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Microsoft SQL Server System CLR Types
Microsoft SQL Server System CLR Types (x64)
Microsoft System CLR Types for SQL Server 2014
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Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.4148
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x64 9.0.30729.6161
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.21022
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Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.4148
Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable - x86 9.0.30729.6161
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x64 Redistributable - 10.0.40219
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x86 Redistributable - 10.0.40219
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x64) - 11.0.60610
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x64) - 11.0.60610
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x86) - 11.0.60610
Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x86) - 11.0.60610
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable (x64) - 12.0.21005
Microsoft Visual C++ 2013 Redistributable (x86) - 12.0.21005
Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 Tools for Office Runtime (x64)
Microsoft Visual Studio Express 2012 für Windows Desktop - DEU
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Microsoft Visual Studio Professional 14 CTP
Microsoft Web Deploy 3.5
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Microsoft-System-CLR-Typen für SQL Server 2012
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Mozilla Firefox 30.0 (x86 de)
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Mozilla Thunderbird 24.6.0 (x86 de)
NirSoft Wireless Network Watcher
Nmap 6.46
Notepad++
NVIDIA 3D Vision Controller-Treiber 337.88
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NVIDIA GeForce Experience 2.1
NVIDIA Grafiktreiber 337.88
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NVIDIA PhysX-Systemsoftware 9.13.1220
Opera Stable 22.0.1471.70
Oracle VM VirtualBox 4.3.14
paint.net
Paket zur Festlegung von Zielversionen für Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1 (Deutsch)
Prerequisites for SSDT
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QuickTime 7
RAGE
Recuva
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Sleeping Dogs™
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Speccy
Steam
TAP-Windows 9.9.2
TeamViewer 9
The Bureau: XCOM Declassified
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
TIPP10 Version 2.1.0
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Phantoms - EU
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Tomb Raider
Turbo Lister 2
Uplay
VeraCrypt
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VMware Player
Wacom Tablett
WCF RIA Services V1.0 SP2
WebTablet FB Plugin 32 bit
WebTablet FB Plugin 64 bit
Windows Azure Authoring Tools - v2.3
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Windows Azure Libraries for .NET – v2.3
Windows Azure PowerShell - June 2014
Windows Azure Storage Emulator - v3.2
Windows Azure Storage Tools - v2.2.2
Windows Phone 8.1 Emulators - ENU
Windows Phone SDK 8.0 - DEU
WinHTTrack Website Copier 3.48-17
WinPcap 4.1.2
Worms Reloaded
XAMPP
XEOX Gamepad SL-6556-BK
XMind 2013 (v3.4.1)
Zune
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Wenn noch fragen offen sind einfach fragen, ich würde gerne das Problem so schnell wie möglich lösen....

Ja wie gesagt es hat davor auch ohne Probleme Funktioniert nur war ich gezwungen das System neu zu Installieren und ab dann konnte ich die da oben genannten Updates nicht mehr Installieren. Ein Mac ist zwar eine schöne Sache kommt aber für mich nie in Frage da ich mein PC als Arbeitsrechner und Gamer Rechner nutze und das meiste läuft halt nicht auf einen Mac und man müsste manche Programme neu Kaufen, das sehe ich überhaupt nicht ein, und meine Anwendungen werden aus Prinzipien nicht für Apple Produkte entwickelt da verdient man kaum etwas... aber das muss jeder für sich entscheiden. An eine neue Version habe ich eventuell nächstes Jahr gedacht aber auch nur die CS6 ob man das brauch ist die Frage da CS 5 genau macht was es soll. Das Modell mit der Adobe Cloud hat zwar denn Vorteil das die Programme Aktuell sind aber man muss Monatlich dafür Zahlen und CS5/CS6 oder älter brauch man nur einmal Kaufen. Darüber hinaus finde ich eh das Adobe so eine richtige S*** ist wenn es um Support ältere Programme geht so zeigt Adobe meiner Meinung nach das Ihre Produkte nichts wert sind zumindest macht es den Anschein. Aber wie gesagt, bin ich hier um Hilfe zu bekommen um das Problem zu lösen ohne ein neue Version zu kaufen, das ist ja bekanntlich die einfachste Lösung, aber wenn Informatiker auch so denken würden dann würde es sehr schlecht aussehen... und als Anmerkung am Rande, es wäre ja nett wenn man mir denn Link dieser Updates zukommen lassen könnte um die Updates Manuell zu Installieren.
"Aber wie sollen wir denn Programme testen auf Hardware und OS, die es erst in ein paar Jahren geben wird."
Dies kann man in voraus natürlich nicht aber in nachhinein geht das und Software Entwickler denn etwas an Ihre Produkte liegt, machen das nachhinein auch und passen gegebenenfalls Ihr Produkt an.
PS: CS 2 läuft ebenfalls auf einem Windows 8.1 rechner ;-)

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