Color mode for exporting to EPS to be printed as CMYK or spot

I have a couple illustrations I need to export to use in a Quark file. Some of my Quark pages will be printed in CMYK, and others in spot colors. How do I create and/or export the illustrations for both color modes?
Thanks.
~Valerie

I'm still on Illustrator 12. On my copy it's called Process Color.
I have no idea why there's a button to convert to a process colour and another to convert to CMYK, since they're the same thing and both buttons produce the same result. Maybe they're rying both out while the program's still in Beta. Illustrator has been in Beta for about eight years.

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Thank you for your advice.

Colour Profiles don't have a best one. It is a way of matching colour produced by one type of device so that it is reproduced by another type reasonably well. Allan

Color Mode for Photoshop EPS images not shown...

In Bridge CS2 we can see the File Properties > Color Mode - CMYK/RGB on Photoshop EPS images.
Bridge CS3 & CS4 the Color Mode is blank. It doesn't matter if the Photoshop EPS are RGB or CMYK.
Neither color modes show. The color mode is present (RGB & CMYK) with TIFF and Photoshop (.psd) images.
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Bridge CS3 & CS4 the Color Mode is blank. It doesn't matter if the Photoshop EPS are RGB or CMYK.
Neither color modes show. The color mode is present (RGB & CMYK) with TIFF and Photoshop (.psd) images.
Why is the Color Mode blank (not present) with Photoshop EPS images in Bridge CS3 & CS4?
Thanks for any information you can provide.
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Edit Color Sync for Exports for Web Sites

Hi,
Perhaps this has been covered, but I've not found the thread. Most of the export color sync questions seem to revolve around printing or displaying on one's own monitor. Neither is an issue for me. However, I note that my RAW images exported from Aperture 2.0 as jpg's and then uploaded to web sites such as Jalbum and Orkut are washed out. Some forums have suggested this is due to those websites being optimized for sRGB. I understand that Aperture uses a proprietary color sync profile; however, my default EXIF - Expanded shows "Color Model" as simply "RGB", and "Profile Name" is Adobe RGB (1998) (my Canon 50D is set to sRGB). Again, I have seen suggestions on this forum that one can change these settings, but the process appears to be only for printers and monitors. Where/how can I change the export for uploading jpg's to the web.
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I understand that Aperture uses a proprietary color sync profile
If the profile were proprietary, it would be an illegal profile under the ICC Specification.
However, I note that my RAW images exported from Aperture 2.0 as jpg's and then uploaded to web sites such as Jalbum and Orkut are washed out.
If you did not disable embedding of an ICC source colour space in Aperture, if you did not use a non-ICC enabled browser, the OS X system level services will set up a ColorWorld and convert the pixels in your JPEGs matching from the ICC source colour space to the ICC destination colour space of your display. Thus you will get what you uploaded in the first place.
I have seen suggestions on this forum that one can change these settings, but the process appears to be only for printers and monitors.
The idea is that each and every colour device is calibrated and that calibration is captured in a colourimetric colour characterisation from which an ICC colour device profile is computed. Colourants that form certain colours one one colour device at one calibration will form other colours in the same colour device at another calibration and in other colour devices at yet other calibrations. By means of device profiles, the COLOURS can be kept constant while the COLOURANTS are recomputed to compel the device to paint the closest possible match it is capable of.
Some forums have suggested this is due to those websites being optimized for sRGB.
The issue is whether people who post pictures do or do not embed ICC source colour spaces into their pictures and whether they pick browsers that are ICC-enabled or pick colour blind browsers.
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ColorSync Profile: This defines the ICC source colour space. If there is none in the image file, the system level service assigns the Generic RGB Profile for model RGB, the Generic CMYK Profile for model CMYK and so forth. Therefore, any ICC source colour space than a Generic Profile source colour space is embedded in the image file itself.
In technical terms, the rule is that to construct a ColourWorld that does a colour space conversion through the PCS Profile Connection Space, you have to have an ICC source colour space and an ICC destination colour space (typically your display profile). It follows that the system level service ASSIGNS an ICC source colour space automatically where is none embedded. The ICC source colour space that is assigned when there is none embedded is the Generic RGB Profile for colourant model RGB, as explained.
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i have a script which export eps to jpg using below script (width is always 1276 px). Is there any way to know the dimension of the each jpg files as an alert?
#target illustrator
var i, files, sourceDoc, targetFile;
files = File.openDialog ("Hi, Please select EPS file(s)", /.eps$/, true);
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//        var docRight = sourceDoc.artboards[0].artboardRect[2] + 50 ;
//        var docBottom = sourceDoc.artboards[0].artboardRect[3] -50 ;
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//        var sourceDocHeight = docTop - docBottom;
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newName = "";
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Does this help?
I do applescript and javascript is another language but I found this by searching google:
var img = document.getElementById('imageId');
var width = img.clientWidth;
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From:
Determining image file size + dimensions via Javascript? - Stack Overflow

Which color mode in psd cs4 is best to use for 2-color project, grayscale or cmyk?

The project is a photo montage. It was 4-color, now must become 2 colors.
So I've changed each of the original 4-color photos (jpg and eps) into separate psd files (as grayscale/duotone/montage-and assigned it One pantone color)
In a new psd "montage" file, I plan to place each photo on its own layer, adjust tints, transparency, etc, to create one new montage/flattened.
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Yes it is possible in InDesign. You will have to judge whether you feel more proficient in doing something new in Photoshop or in InDesign.
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Does Print driver type (XPS V GDI) affect availability of "Color Mode Model" in Publisher 2013 to get CMYK colours

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In the Publisher 2013 stand alone software - it is possible to change from RGB to CMYK in the "Choose Color Model" area in Info.
But in the server based Publisher 2013 - in Info, the Choose Color Model is not offered :(
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Since Publisher 2013, you no longer have to choose a color model for your publication. In prior versions of Publisher, several different color modes were supported, with RGB mode for screen and desktop printers, and single, process, and spot color modes
for more specialized, commercial printing cases. We have simplified this in the new version, and now use RGB mode for all cases, enhanced to export additional color information when saving the publication.
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Just as a quick update, Melon-
Using Office 2010 I went into "Choose Color Mode" and changed to CMYK. Used the pack and go and packed it onto a stick. The Office Administrator then walked it round to the printers, who took a look. Printers are happy as the CMYK and quality (DPI,
etc) is all to what they want.
Based on the high number of posts and threads about the failings of Publisher 2013, and especially the CMYK issues - I guess someone needs to address that as a service pack ;)
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Is there a way to enable the "protect tones" box while working in Lab Color mode for dodging and burning?

Don't think so. Those algorithms are built around the RGB color model as far as I know and there is no way to achieve the same result in other color modes. It may not be programmaticalyl and matehmatically impossible, but it's probably too complicated for a quick solution due to constant color space conversion math getting involved.
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Using Illustrator CS2, on opening, the usual loading prescreen appears, after which a dialog box appears showing the following text
"Convert Color Mode"
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This dialog box appears every time I open Illustrator, even though I'm not actually opening a document.
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Correct export color space for wide gamut monitors.

Running a photography studio I have 4 typical scenarios of how clients or end users will see my photo work. I create and edit the photos using LR 3 on a HP 2475w (wide gamut) monitor. I'm aware that there are color shifts, but trying to figure out which export color space to use to be most consistent.
A) Wide Gamut monitor using color managed software or browser such as Firefox.
B) Wide Gamut monitor NOT using color managed software such as IE 8.
C) Standard monitor using color managed software or browser such as Firefox.
D) Standard monitor NOT using color managed software such as IE 8.
A) gives the best results and that's what I run myself. No matter the color space that I export (sRGB, aRGB, or my custom calibrated ICC) the images appear to be correct 100%
B) gives mixed results...the hosting site for my photos seems to oversaturate a bit when I view the photos in their preview size which is what my clients see, when I view the original photo in full resolution (this feature disabled for my clients to avoid them downloading full rez copies of images), then the images appears a bit dull (70%). When I try this same scenario using aRGB export, it looks better (90-95%). When I export it using my monitor profile then the photo is spot on 100% however my monitor profile shows the photo incorrectly when viewing it using the standard Windows Vista photo viewer, it appears lighter and less saturated which I guess I expect since it's not color managed.
C) On a standard monitor the photos all look the same regardless of color space export so long as I use a color managed browser such as Firefox.
D) This gives pretty much the same breakdown of results as scenario B above. At the moment, it appears that when I use my custom ICC profile which is the calibration of my monitor...I get the best web results.
However my custom ICC profile gives me the worst local results within my windows viewer and when my clients load the photos on their machines, no doubt they will look just as bad on theirs regardless of which monitor they use. So aRGB seems to be the best choice for output. Anyone else do this? It's significantly better when viewing in IE on both Wide Gamut and Standard LCD's when compared to sRGB.
I would guess that my typical client has a laptop with Windows and they will both view the photos locally and upload them on the web, so it needs to look as close to what it looks like when I'm processing it in LR and Photoshop as possible. I know that a lot of people ask questions about their photos being off because they don't understand that there's a shift between WG and non-WG monitors, but I get that there's a difference...question is which color space export has worked best for others.

I am saying that since images on the internet are with extremely few
exceptions targeted towards sRGB. It is extremely common for those images to
not contain ICC profiles even if they really are sRGB. If they do not
contain ICC profiles in the default mode in Firefox, Firefox (as well as
Safari btw, another color managed browser), will not convert to the monitor
profile but will send the image straight to the monitor. This means that on
a wide gamut display, the colors will look oversaturated. You've no doubt
seen this on your display, but perhaps you've gotten used to it. If you
enable the "1" color management mode, Firefox will translate every image to
the monitor profile. This will make the colors on your display more
realistic and more predictable (since your monitor's very specific
properties no longer interfere and the image's colors are displayed as they
really are) for many sites including many photographic ones. This is most
important on a wide gamut display and not that big of a deal on a standard
monitor, which usually is closer to sRGB.
It seems you are suggesting that for a wide-gamut display it is better to
try using your own monitor's calibration profile on everything out there,
assuming on images posted with a wider gamat it will get you more color
range while there would be nothing lost for images posted in sRGB.
Indeed. The point of color management is to make the specific
characteristics of your monitor not a factor anymore and to make sure that
you see the correct color as described in the working space (almost always
sRGB on the web). This only breaks down when the color to be displayed is
outside of the monitor's gamut. In that case the color will typically get
clipped to the monitor's gamut. The other way around, if your original is in
sRGB and your monitor is closer to adobeRGB, the file's color space is
limiting. For your monitor, you want to make the system (Firefox in this
case) assume that untagged files are in sRGB as that is what the entire
world works in and translate those to the monitor profile. When you
encounter adobeRGB or wider files (extremely rare but does happen), it will
do the right thing and translate from that color space to the monitor
profile.
Wide gamut displays are great but you have to know what you are doing. For
almost everybody, even photographers a standard gamut monitor is often a
better choice. One thing is that you should not use unmanaged browsers on
wide gamut displays as your colors will be completely out of whack even on
calibrated monitors. This limits you to Firefox and Safari. Firefox has the
secret option to enable color management for every image. Safari doesn't
have this. There is one remaining problem, which is flash content on
websites. Flash does not color manage by default and a lot of flash content
will look very garish on your wide gamut display. This includes a lot of
photographer's websites.

Is it ok in the long run to placing a RGB photoshop eps file into a Illustrator CS2 CMYK color mode

Is it ok in the long run to placing a RGB photoshop eps file into a Illustrator CS2 CMYK color mode document ?
I am using windows XP with Adobe Creative suite 2.
In both Adobe Photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2 have the same color settings.
If I take a RGB file that was created in Photoshop CS2 and place this file in a CMYK color mode document in Illustrator CS2, does this cause a problem for the output of the document ?
If you look at the ''Document Info'' window you can now see that the RGB file is now a CMYK file. Is this a good working habit ?
Thanks in advance. :)

>Is it ok in the long run to placing a RGB photoshop eps file into a Illustrator CS2 CMYK color mode document ?
Please explain why you would do such a thing? (Why RGB, and why EPS.)
>If I take a RGB file that was created in Photoshop CS2 and place this file in a CMYK color mode document in Illustrator CS2, does this cause a problem for the output of the document ?
Yes.
You are working in CMYK mode presumably because your Illustrator document is destined for output on a PostScript device -- e.g., a printing press. That means that your RGB image will undergo a space conversion somewhere in the process, and the questions are when and how?
The issue is compounded by the fact that Illustrator ignores color profiles embedded in EPS files by Photoshop. (Just another reason not to use EPS.)
By performing the conversion yourself in Photoshop, you take control of the process and ensure predictable color.

Why does my Bridge read RGB or B&W for the Color Mode on a file, when in Illustrator I have set it to CMYK?

I'm kind of stumped and this has been a question of mine for some time. I did some further digging on it, and did find that what it's reading is the Photoshop Color Mode XMP data, which is odd since the files were never in Photoshop, and were created in Illustrator. Is there a way to remove this info? How do I fix it?

Probably can be chalked up to one of Illustrators mysterious color issues.
Therefor it might be best to drop this question in the AI forum itself. I know to less of AI but just tried a bit with a new document, you can't convert to a new color profile like used to in PS, only select CMYK or RGB and assign a profile but that is not the same as converting.
Also in color settings it says by default to preserve numbers in stead of the profile itself.
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I am new to scripting & I need Script for Document color mode

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Please help me to create a script which should find the Document color mode. I am new to scripting. And please let me know how to use the same.
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Are you using the Extendscript Toolkit Editor (ESTK)? In the Help menu you can find all the properties for Document that can be queried/changed.
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