Color profile and 2nd diplay

quite often, when I wake my PowerBook from sleep with an external screen attached, the PowerBook's display will show an incorrect color profile (I beleive it is taking the color profile of the external display).
When this happen, simply clicking "Display" in system preference will solve this without any further step.
This is annoying and it is still not solve in 10.5.4. I'm using the external display as the main display.
Is it just me or others are also experiencing this bug?

Let us know. It always hard to determined if the modification solve the problem since it isn't always showing up. There also a mention of video correction in the last security update... I must say that the problem haven't show up yet.
I just hope that this isn't related to the video chip recall...

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Using Color profiles and exporting for web browsers

I've been trying to figure out the answer to this question. As I'm sure you're aware Safari supports color profiles while other web browsers like Firefox do not. I would like to setup Aperture so that it displays and exports images for the widest audience possible. Unfortunately it embeds a color profile and my images on the web only display correctly in Safari. I've tried changing the proofing profiles and export settings to no avail. I didn't seem to have this problem in iPhoto, a picture there looked the same on screen as it did in Safari and Firefox but I can't achieve the same with Aperture...

Thanks for that information, unfortunately I'm not really any closer to solving the issue since I've already tried that. 1) by default, doesn't Aperture automatically embed the sRGB color profile? 2) if I set view>proofing mode to sRGB shouldn't what I see on screen match what a "dumb" application such as Firefox does when it ignores the embedded profile and display sRGB? I've tried going into the preferences>export settings and changed everything to sRGB IEC61966-2.1 but I see no difference in the final image between that and the default setting.
I guess my question is more specific to Aperture since I don't have this problem with other applications. For example, in photoshop if I do Export for Web it strips out any embedded profile and when I open that image in Firefox and Safari side-by-side they are exactly the same. But not so when I export an image from Aperture, when opened in Firefox it is desaturated and flat and of course in Safari it honors the embedded profile and looks fine.

My screen went high-contrast. color profiles and calibration didn't help. It looks fine before I log in though!

My screen went high-contrast. color profiles and calibration didn't work well -
HOWEVER-
It looks fine right before I log in!
Is there a way to repair the color profiles or whatev?
I Installed Photoshop Elements and Premiere Elements a couple weeks ago that's when I think it began

I found it! "Enhanced Contrast" was set in the "Universal Access" control panel
Thanks, whoever posted that!

One again about color profiles and lightroom

I have wide gamut monitor (nec pa271w) and I tried to calibrate it. After calibration it created new color profile and make it default in windows color managment. But now all pictures in Lightroom are not so colourful as they were before. If I choose srgb(default profile for windows) the colors become as they were before calibration but in this case I see srgb color space and not full color that my monitor can produce. I read articles about calibration but didn't find how to solve the problem with lightroom.

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function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}But now all pictures in Lightroom are not so colourful as they were before.
This is probably the effect of your now calibrated monitor vs. the uncalibrated one.
Often uncalibrated monitors show highly over-saturated colors. It looks very rich and flashy and people are wowed.
But these over-saturated colors cannot be printed and do not reflect the true state of the image data.
When your monitor is calibrated properly it will display the colors as they should be.
When you chose sRGB all the colors - particularly the reds and greens - will appear more saturated. That is the effect of this color space that is much smaller than Adobe RGB or Pro Photo RGB.
LR will automatically find and select your calibrated color profile if it is saved in the right place / folder.
And you can't change that. There is no provision for a different color space in LR.
WW
PS: As Pete and other posters have said already: Set the white point of your monitor to 6500 - that is the accepted standard. Don't choose sRGB to make your photos look good. Rather work with a calibrated monitor and then edit your photos in LR to your liking. You seem to think that your photos are a given and you have to adjust your monitor to make them look good - that's not how it's done.
WW

Can I share color profiles and distiller settings with all user accounts on my imac?

Everyone in our studio is on OSX 10.8.3 with adobe cs6 (not creativecliud version).
I have installed color settings and distiller settings on to the macs under the employees user profile.
All the machines also have a general user profile which anyone can use (setup mainly for use by freelancers).
Is there a space on the macs where i can install the color profiles and distiller settings so that all user accounts have them set up?
At the moment i am having to go into each user account on each machine and do it manually.
Also once i have installed distiller settings in one user account I can't install them on subsequent users.
I have tried placing the files in the
library/applicationsupport/adobe/color/
library/applicationsupport/adobe/adobepdf/settings
and
user/library/applicationsupport/adobe/color/
user/library/applicationsupport/adobe/adobepdf/settings
any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,Russell

In that case, assuming your wife's XP User Account can access the D: drive as well, you don't have to bother with the To share your music with other accounts on the computer section of that article. That's already taken care of.
Just log into her account and head directly to the To listen to another account's music files section and follow those instructions.
If I had to emphasize one step to keep from stuffing it up, it would be:
4. Deselect the "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library file" option.
("Deselect" being a fancy way of saying "uncheck")

LCD color profile and Keyboard shortcuts gets screwed up

My macbook pro is connected to a Dell flat panel to extend the desktop. Recently, and inconsistently, the color profile of my MBP's LCD will get screwed up when I exit from the Screensaver - the external display looks right. Just clicking on display in system preferences immediately corrects the color. But I would like to fix it from not happening every now and then.
Another problem I notice pretty much in the same sporadic way is that my keyboard shortcuts (F9 to F12) for dashboard and expose gets reset to none - I am not sure if they are even related as of now (can't reproduce it at will)
Has anyone experienced something like this? Any potential solutions?
Thanks!

My macbook pro is connected to a Dell flat panel to extend the desktop. Recently, and inconsistently, the color profile of my MBP's LCD will get screwed up when I exit from the Screensaver - the external display looks right. Just clicking on display in system preferences immediately corrects the color. But I would like to fix it from not happening every now and then.
Another problem I notice pretty much in the same sporadic way is that my keyboard shortcuts (F9 to F12) for dashboard and expose gets reset to none - I am not sure if they are even related as of now (can't reproduce it at will)
Has anyone experienced something like this? Any potential solutions?
Thanks!

Color profile and 16 bit printing

I read a post that said sRBG was the best color profile for ibook. It is also the smallest gamut compared to Adobe 1998 or ProRGB. Is it really "the best" one to use? Also, can iBook printing support 16 bit files? If the answers are yes to sRGB and no to 16 bit, does anyone have a suggestion for someplace else to have only one book printed? Thank you.

I read a post that said sRBG was the best color profile for ibook. It is also the smallest gamut compared to Adobe 1998 or ProRGB. Is it really "the best" one to use?
Yes - that is the reason that it is recommended - user experience with Adobe RGB for example has been unsatisfactory
And note that iPhoto is a consumer product and the books are designed for consumers - I find them outstanding as do most users. Only you can choose what pleases you.
for more info on preparing your photo see - http://www.apple.com/support/photoservices/preparation_tips/
Generally you will find that doing less editing and doing it in iPhoto will produce the best (yes - best does mean best once again) results
Also, can iBook printing support 16 bit files?
No idea
If the answers are yes to sRGB and no to 16 bit, does anyone have a suggestion for someplace else to have only one book printed? Thank you.
Google is a wonderful resource for things like this
LN

Color Profile and ACR 4.6 (Vista)

Hi,
My monitor is calibrated with Spyder3. I have set up my Photoshop CS3 so that the color management policies are disabled and the proof conditions are set up to the .icc profile produces by the calibrator. With these settings the files that I save in Photoshop look similar in Photoshop, Microsoft Office Picture Manager, IE and on paper.
But if I decide to open a RAW file, then it is opened in ACR and looks very different: all colors are over-saturated and totally unnatural. Nevertheless, clicking on "Save Image" without changing anything produces a jpeg, which, if opened in Photoshop, looks fine.
I played with this jpeg in Photoshop and was able to reproduce those unnatural colors of ACR in the following way:
- Go to Save For Web&Devices
- Open the Preview Menu
- Chose Windows Color
Normally I have Uncompensated Color chosen there and then it looks normal.
Here are the examples. First, how the file looks in ACR ad then in PS:
Does anybody know why this might happen?
Thank you very much,
Vera

vemina39 wrote:
Thank you Ramon,
Could you please elaborate? I have looked through the page you gave me a link to. I did not see much new there.
The problem I have is with proofing. If I switch to sRGB I have consistent colors through all my applications but they look very washed out and way too cold. If I then make my picture look "natural" (whatever that means) on my screen, it looks too saturated and too warm on most of other screens I tried. (And on paper too.)
Proofing under my .icc does not give that problem, but it has the other: ACR and Photoshop proof differently. So I cannot use ACR for conversion and have to use the Canon's software, which (I suppose) uses the monitor profile for proofing.
Are you OYing about the fact that I do not convert the profile of my pictures before sending them to the printer?
Vera
Vera,
If G. Ballard's excellent, clearly written pages did not help you, you can bet I won't be able to either.
No, I was saying OY! about your entire post!
Good grief! you're turning off Color Management in Photoshop (or you think you are, but you're not "turning it off", you're just messing it up) and you're massively misusing your monitor profile.
Honestly I don't have the time, strength or inclination to explain it to you step-by-step.
CAUTION: NEVER, ever set your working space to be your monitor profile!
In very broad strokes:
Calibrate and profile your monitor, use the resulting profile ONLY in your OS and nowhere else, not anywhere in Photoshop. Set your working profile to a device-independent profile such as ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB or sRGB, embed the same device-independent profile such as ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB or sRGB, in your file (that is called "tagging your file"), work with your file and save it.
• Then, for the web, Convert a copy the file to sRGB if it's not already tagged as sRGB, then soft proof (Proof) the file with the sRGB profile to see how other people who happen to have a calibrated monitor (less than 2% of all web viewers) will see it in a color managed application.
For heaven's sake DO NOT soft-proof with your gosh-darned monitor profile!!! You're just fooling yourself that way. No one else in the entire world will see the image the same way except by sheer serendipity.
—What kind of printer are you using? Are you talking about your own inkjet printer or a commercial printing press?
• If your own printer, then your file should be created in an Adobe RGB working color space (you can move up to an even wider space once you know what you are doing), tag your file with the embedded Adobe RGB profile, and then use your TARGET (paper) profile to soft-proof your image. The Target Profile, also called paper profile, MUST be specific to a particular combination of paper/ink/printer.
• If a commercial press, ask them to provide their own profiles for their print presses or devices so you can use it for soft proofing.
In both of these last two cases, use the paper target profile for soft proofing. NEVER your gosh-darned monitor profile!
Again: If G. Ballard's excellent, clearly written pages did not help you, you can bet I won't be able to either. I'm done here.

Macbook Pro Color Profile and Calibration for Photo processing.

Hello Friends,
May be it has already discussed in many forums but somehow I got confused about different solutions of the questions and due to this asking once again here.
I am using Macbook pro of 2012 and there exist many color profiles in the Display settings.
I am a photographer who uses Photoshop for the editing as well as Canon Software.
To get the most accurate Monitor Calibration Should I use default "color LCD" profile ?
I am not using any External Calibration tool. I have manually calibrate the screen but somehow I am not 100% confident on that.
In that case should I go for default "color LCD" for my photo processing. I found some light yellow cast/warm color on that profile but I am not sure..
Any help/suggestion will be much appreciated.
I am using:- MacBook Pro + OS X Mountain Lion 10.8.5
Warm Regards,
Ari...

Which model MacBook Pro? [EDIT] my bad, didn't see it in your original post
You mentioned that there is no error message when you try to change the profile; something is probably being reported to console though. Open Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) and see if anything is reported to it while you're experiencing these problems. If so, please post it here and I'll take a look at it.
Are you using the default profile that came with the machine or did you create your own by using the Calibration Assistant?
You might try opening Color Sync Utility (in /Applications/Utilities/) and verify or repair (if necessary) your color profiles.
Hope this helps....
Dual 2.7GHz PowerPC G5 w/ 2.5 GB RAM; 17" MacBook Pro w/ 2 GB RAM - Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Color Profiles and Printing

Hi all, First timer here so please be gentle!
I have recently purchased LR3 (I know!) and having trouble printing from there.
I have a Spyder Express calibarted monitor and as instructed both in LR Help and elsewhere on the net, I select the color profile of my printer and paper (Canon MP990 with Plus Glossy II) from within LR and ensure color management is set to "None" within the printer driver. When doing this (with both Relative and Perceptual Rendering) I experience slight out of shift colors when printing. I understand I might expect this as the printer can never match what I see on screen 100% but here's the rub....When turning off the screen calibration profile using the Spyder utility on the toolbar, the colors displayed are near exact what I'm seeing on my prints. Also, I have been experimenting with many different options and when I select "Managed by printer" within LR, and then "Driver" Color Management within the printer driver I once again get near perfect match to what I see on screen using the claibrated monitor profile!??
I know this means I can just do one of the above to get prints matching what I see on screen but I also like to publish pics on the net and send some away for printing so how can I be sure which (if any) of my "workarounds" are valid or if there is some underlying problem somewhere which means that when following the instructions of LR, Canon, Windows and many internet guides, my prints do not match my calibrated monitor profile? And why is it that selecting "Pinter Managed" with "Driver" OR truning of my screen calibration and using the stated instructions result in better color rendition?
Apologies if this is not LR specific (guess could be a problem with Win, Canon or Monitor profile rather than LR) but my Google search led me here and there appears to be a wealth of expertise available here on such matters!

i once had to print on a epson P50 printer from my sister because my own printer was send in for service.
i have a full color managed system from monitor, scanner to printer.
but i have never managed to get good results with the P50 when i selected that photoshop should do the color handling.
the prints with the printer driver doing the color handling looked much better then the photoshop managed prints.
there are some ICC profiles for epson paper coming with the P50 and of course i used them (i was printing on epson premium semigloss) ..... but it did not help a bit.
and yes i know about disabling color management in the printer driver when PS does the color handling.
trust me.. there was no double color handling.
after some testprints i found out that i have to set the color handling to "printer driver" and change the color adjustment to "Adobe RGB" and "Gamma 1.8" in the printer driver.
that way the P50 produced good looking prints. not 100% perfect but much closer to my calibrated monitor display (i use a dtp94 for profiling).
that will not help you with your canon printer.. thought.. but i just want to tell you...your are not alone.
that said my Epson R2880 prints PERFECT when photoshop does the CM and i would never let the printer driver do the color handling on this printer.
i guess some printers are just not working well when photoshop (or lightroom) does the color handling.
especially cheap consumer models.
a friend had an epson R200 and complained about the same issues i had with the P50.
he always had to fiddled around in PS to adjust the images for printing and i don´t mean subtle changes.
i gave him my settings and his prints looked better, immediately with no need for PS adjustments.
i know that is against everything you might have read in books or heard in tutorial videos about printing. i wondered too and that was why i have done a few dozend testprints with the P50, trying all the different settings.
they always say that you have to let photoshop do the color handling... (and i can say it´s true for the R2880 or R3880)... but my experience with cheap epson models (R200, P50) tell another story.

Color Profile and Color Shift Headache

I am having a terrible time trying to fix a color issue. I have seen suggestions in various discussions. Here's what I have tried:
Reset PRAM
Calibrate monitor
Double checked Univesal Access
Trashed preferences file
Tried using other profiles
Created seperate user account
I even tested to see if the video card or monitor was bad but when I plugged in a Viewsonic LCD display into the ADC port (using a converter) my Hitachi CM721F CRT monitor apparently "slaved" and mirrored off of the Viewsonic profile and everything was fine. When I disconnected the Viewsonic, the problem reappeared. Since then I have also had an Apple Cinema Display hooked up and there was no problem.
In fact, just this evening I was using iPhoto and all my photos had a red shift to them. Out of curiousity I played them as a slideshow and they looked fine. Additionally photo previews in the Finder, when set to column view look fine but when I open in preview I get a red color shift
What exactly is going on here?
Thank You
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HI
Even if bit depth and color profile aren't related, we can say that a small bit depth (8 bit) can have problems with posterization effects if a large (i.e. ProPhotoRGB) color space is used.
More colors can be "reached" in a large color space, so, if many of them are in a small range of RGB values (XYZ coordinates in color spaces are translated in RGB values at the end), some "near" colors could be "rounded", practically disappearing. So some "posterization" effect could be visible (posterization stands for colors that do not "fade" between them but are clearly separated at the eye).
So, in practical use, a 8-bit color depth is better used with sRGB and AdobeRGB color space, while larger color spaces like ProPhotoRGB need a 16-bit depth. Using "dithering" (random distribution of color pixel) technique can reduce the posterization effect (for Web image for example), but is better to keep the larger color spaces with large bit depth.
Hope it helps.
Massimo

A general question about JPGs, color profiles and the web.

(Didn't get much help in the PS forum, so I'm gonna try this here.)
I save a website background image in Photoshop with its color profile (in this instance, Adobe RGB 1998).
When I view the image in IE (latest), it looks the same as it did in PS.
When I view it in Firefox (latest), it comes out darker.
I'm guessing this has something to do with one of the two browsers taking the color profile into account, and the other not.
What is everyone's solution to this problem? Should I not be including color profiles with my JPGs? And if that isn't the problem (ie, I should keep doing it), which is the color profile I should be using in RGB?
I keep hopping between Adobe RGB (1998) and sRGB 2.1 and can't decide which one to adopt once and for all.
Thanks.

You are correct. The colors differ from IE to FF because FF and Safari use the color profiles found in your images.
You might like the discussion found on Usability Post: http://www.usabilitypost.com/2008/07/30/photoshop-color-profiles-for-web-images/
I've been using sRGB 2.1 for a few years and have had no major issues with it.

Exported Jpgs - Questions with regards to color profiles and web browsers

I along with others have noted the fact that it's not possible to instruct apertrue to save images without a profile. Up until recently I've been saving my images with the sRGB profile. I noted (as has been posted about elsewhere on the forums) that safari displays the image one way, and Firefox another. As others have noted, this is due to Safari being a color managed browser, and Firefox not being color managed.
However, when I save a jpg out of photoshop with NO color profile applied the image looks identical in both browsers.
I'm considering not using profiles as all if saving an image with an sRGB colorspace profile allows me to change the behavior so that Safari matches Firefox. I would love to go the other way (to do something magical to effect the way that images appear in Firefox) but that doesn't seem to be an options here.
So, after all that, my questions are:
1.) What is it specifically about not applying a profile, that makes Safari render images identically to FireFox (in other words, what's going on?)
2.) Is there any way to apply NO profile to an exported Aperture Raw image...not the camera profile, not sRGB...NOTHING.
I would guess a good runner up would be to use Automator to strip out the profile. But before I go making changes to my workflow, I'd really like to know why exactly this seems to work.

This doesn't produce the same effect as in Photoshop.
Photoshop has the ability to 'convert to profile'– to actually change the colors in an image so that even in a profile isn't embedded, the colors have been changed. If you choose to, you can also have Photoshop embed the profile as well.
Aperture on the other hand, -seems- to only have the ability to attach a profile to an image. In other words, it relys on color aware apps to interpret the image using the attached profile. (I can't seem to find a way to 'convert' to a profile in Aperture, in the same way I can in Photoshop– doesn't mean one doesn't exist, I just can't seem to find it)

Color profiling and calibration in MacBook Pro

I work a lot in Photoshop with sRGB color space. Should I have this color profile set for my Mac display then (or which setting is recommended)?
Does the calibration in Mac replace an external calibration device functionality such as using e.g. Spyder4Pro?

I work a lot in Photoshop with sRGB color space. Should I have this color profile set for my Mac display then (or which setting is recommended)?
Does the calibration in Mac replace an external calibration device functionality such as using e.g. Spyder4Pro?

Color profiles and export presets

I shoot RAW, with the color space in the camera set to sRGB, but after importing to Aperture (3.2.4), the Profile name in the metadata inspector is always Adobe RGB. Why does this transformation come about automatically (i.e., is there some technical rationale for not letting the user decide)? Can I change some setting somewhere it so it stays sRGB and then export as Adobe RGB if I need it (i.e, rather than sRGB). I do a lot of uploading to a website (with printing at home not of primary importance), so working with sRGB all the way through without going to Adobe RGB and back again seems to make more sense.

EXIF data is really a sort of gray area, while all digital cameras and all digital image software interact with the EXIF fields to some extent there really isn't any one definitive standard of what is put where and exactly what it means apart for the few obvious ones.
So you're point makes sense but it's really not an Aperture thing. If you look at the file before importing the field is already filled out.
regards
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