Color Profile in Safari

Hello,
I'm looking for some help!
Any idea why same image is displayed different in Safari on two different computers? I have to laptops, both calibrated the same.. When I try to open image on my main computer blue colors look more purple than on my other computer.
The image should be blue and it is blue on all other computers and in all other browsers (including Safari, Firefox, and Explorer). But it is purple in my Safari It is not the monitor calibration for sure because image looks right in different editors on this computer.
It worked fine before but than one day (don't remember for sure when) it started not working. I think I probably updated my Photoshop at the same time so something may have changed there.
Any ideas?
Thank you very much!
Sergei

It worked fine before but than one day (don't remember for sure when) it started not working. I think I probably updated my Photoshop at the same time so something may have changed there.
Hello Sergei,
First of all, Welcome to the  Discussions forums!
Have you Repaired Permissions after the Photoshop update on that machine?
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