Color profiles / management in CS4

I am a freelance designer and been working with PS since its version 5. Most of my client don't have color management requirements so I never had to deal with this issue. Since CS4 install a few weeks ago, I've been having problems getting a new CMYK document to show white background. I have set my color settings to NORTH AMERICA PREPRESS 2 which seems to be the most common setting. Any CMYK document fails to show white color. It shows a yellowish color and I am unable to even overlay it with white. Sorry if I sound amateur but I never had to set anything is previous CS's. Any help is greatly appreciated.

If you look at the setting for MONITOR COLOR, it actually turns off color management. In Prepress 2, have you expanded out the MORE OPTIONS button and taken a look at your conversion options? Also, you indicate you have Illustrator, you may want to note the settings there to make sure you're setting Photoshop up the same.
BTW, if you have Illustrator I understand there is a setting in Bridge to sync color management for the Creative Suite applications. I only have PS CS4 so I can't verify this. A quick check of PS Help might help, just type in Color Management, then take a look at color intent,color settings, or keeping colors consistent.

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