Color sample outside app
In CS3 you could select the Eyedropper Tool and hover outside the app and then hit enter to get that color. I am pretty new to CS4 and that awesome trick isn't working. I'm even having problems sampling colors on the stage. Does anyone know why this is happening or what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!
I hadnt even noticed that.
I suppose it has to do with the new Adjustments-panel, so Im afraid one probably cannot change that. In the modal dialog in CS3 the readings would also only incorporate the layers up to the selected Adjustment Layer, so the new non-modal dialog necessitates that behaviour permanently, I guess.
You could deselect the Adjustment Layer by command-clicking it in the Layers-panel though.
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Just looked into this and have found a resolution. Always learning new tricks!! So forgive me I was wrong in the first post.
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Add a folder.
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Duplicate the folder, and invert the mask on the copy.
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Highlight the adjustment layer in the second masked folder.
Both samplers now show no value (incorrect).
Delete sampler #1. The new #1 now shows the current values (correct).
Recreate the other sampler (now at #2). Sampler #2 does not show color values (correct).
Highlight the first adjustment layer again.
Both samplers now show no value (incorrect).
It appears that *all* color samplers are either using the masked area of sampler #1, or combining the masked area of all lower numbered samplers, to determine if they should calculate values. The workaround is to remove all samplers every time you switch masked folders (which can get a bit insane if you have a lot of masked folders). This is not the way it worked in CS3.
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Message was edited by: achbed
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// 2012, use it at your own risk;
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// =======================================================
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