Color settings after calibrating monitor with Spyder 4Pro

Hello, Now that I got my new laptop and finally got a perfect calibration with the Spyder 4Pro , I have a question. Do I leave the color space on Photoshop and Lightroom as they are (Abobe 1998) or use the new profile? I also do a lot of my own prints with a great Epson, do I leave that on the setting as is ( let photoshop manage etc) or use the new profile?
Thanks in advance....

The profile saved by your calibration software is your Monitor Profile and absolutely nothing else..
It has absolutely nothing to do with your working color space or your printer (target) profile.
Monitor profiles are absolutely device-dependent, that means it only applies to your particular monitor unit and nothing else, not even an identical monitor of the same brand and model.
Your working space should be a a device-independet color space, such as ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB, sRGB, etc.
Your printer profile, also called target profile, is a totally device-dependent profile for your specific combination of paper/ink/printer.
You need to do an awful lot of reading on Color Management, a subject some of us have spent a very long time studying before we grasp it. A good place to start would be here:
COLOR MANAGEMENT PHOTOSHOP CC CS6 Basic ColorManagement Theory ICC Profiles Color Spaces Calibrated Monitor Professional…

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Mike Kazlow - 7:26pm Apr 2, 08 PST (#30 of 56)
Could be a corrupt preference file or corrupt job options file.
Mike
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vincent rousseau - 9:59am Apr 3, 08 PST (#32 of 56)
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I'm using a Samsung Syncmaster T220 LCD profiled and calibrated with a Spyder2Express. PC runs Vista 32 SP2, Photoshop CS4. Using Adobe RGB for workspace profile. System profile is set to the Spyder2Express profile.
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