Color settings for Photoshop prints

Not sure if anyone can help - I'm still working with CS2 but perhaps my problem has a simple answer.
I did a lot of printing several years ago but had to leave it behind for a period. I'm trying to get bak into it but i'm having trouble with my color settings. My prints are coming out with rather garish or exagerated. My brain is somewhat disconnected of what I need to be paying attenion to. Anybody with advice on where to start again?

Hi Petyer-2, welcome to the forum.
Chances are it's one or more color-management issues (having to do with profiles, monitor setup, etc.)
Are you printing yourself or sending the images out?
If the former, what color-management settings are you choosing in the Photoshop Print dialog?
If the latter, what color profile are you saving the images in that you're sending out for printing? What does the lab want?
Is your monitor calibrated and profiled? What profile is associated with the monitor?
Feel free to put a representative image up here if you'd like a judgment on whether the image itself is garish/exaggerated.
-Noel

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