Color Shift - pink tint

I own a Panasonic Lumix FZ20. The photos always look and print great in every photo program I have used except for Photoshop Elements 4.0 and Lightroom, both Adobe products. In Elements and Lightroom they always open up with a pink tint to them. In Elements 4.0 they told me to change the color profile and this did seem to work. The real question is why do the photos look and print great in every other program without having to change anything, except the Adobe products. Also, even with the pink tint, they print out normally. Thanks for your help.

I hesitate to say its the same problem I was having, but I have to wonder if its not related.
Here is the thread where my issue is discussed, so you can see if it gives you any help with your problem: http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc3b81d/9
Have you ever used your TIFF mode on you camera? if you have, do those images seem to have a pink cast to them as well? I think as a quick test, it would be interesting to capture an image (Like a evenly lit neutral gray surface) as a TIFF and take another shot of it as a JPEG and see if they both look as you would expect on import to LR.
I don't want to get you off track though, if you are new to color management, learning the basics of it it is something that will serve you well in the long run. The problem I was having could just as likely have nothing to do with your issue.
Also if you have a way to upload the test image somewhere I would be interested in downloading it and seeing if it exhibited the same behavior as the images I was having problems with.
Good Luck!
Doc.

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The Dell is a PVA panel. It also costs 1200 bucks!
Yes, the 2405FPW uses a PVA panel (Samsung LTM240M1-L01), but these
are certainly no more expensive than S-IPS panels used in 24" iMacs. Much
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