Color shift with second monitor using develop module

LR 4.1 RC2, OSX 10.6.8 - when I'm trying to use the develop module with my second monitor, the image initially looks accurate. After a second or two and before any edits have been applied, the images desaturate and look very flat. Images viewed with the second monitor in Library module look great. I can't figure out what is happening and am wondering if any others are experiencing this. Thanks.

Will be fixed in 4.1 final.
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Hi,
Please disable HDMI sound to force audio back to the laptop or use different conection such as VGA or DVI. To diable HDMI sound, please right click speaker icon > playback devices > right click and disable HDMI sound.
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Hi Civolis,
Welcome to the Apple Support Communities!
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