Color space from lightroom to flickr

Can anyone help me with this question....having developed raw images in lightroom, I then may publish some of them on my flickr account. When these images are exported directly from Lightroom to Flickr, are they automatically exported in sRGB?....especially considering that Lightroom is a ProPhoto RGB color managed application. I ask this because I know that people may look @ my images in non-color managed web browsers, like Internet Explorer, and if the images are exported in the ProPhoto RGB color space, the image colors will render poorly on that non-color managed web browser. Are they automatically exported in the web friendly sRGB?? Thanks for your comments:)

Perhaps you could help me with another question. I always shoot in raw and process using ProPhoto RGB throughout my entire workflow. However, 5 years ago, I shot in Jpeg. I couldn't tell you what colour space my camera was set to then. When editing those JPEGS in Lightroom, in what colour space should I apply to those images when I send them over to Photoshop? I know JPEGs already have a colour space applied, but the camera I used then is long gone and therefore can't remember if they were shot in sRGB or Adobe RGB. Also, whatever colour space I do use when exporting from Lightroom to Photoshop, I should set up Photoshop's working colour space to match the image's profile, correct? So, should I apply sRGB or Adobe RGB to my JPEGs when going from Lightroom to Photoshop?? Thanks:)

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I don't know how many different ways to say that you cannot change the color space for previews. The files themselves have specific image data that corresponds to a specific color profile that is Adobe 1998 you cannot change the way Aperture generates these. Changing your system has nothing to do with it.
As for work-flow - If you need this to work and it doesn't then it never has so I really don't see how it is changing your work-flow that never existed?
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Message was edited by: rwboyer

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I read that Lightroom uses the large ProPhoto color Space and then again, that it's gamma curve ist close to sRGB. So what is my color space when working in Lightroom? ProPhoto, or sRGb, or something else?
And what kind of a color management workflow between Photoshop and Lightroom do you advocate? Using ProphotoRGB or sRGB as color work space in Photoshop? I used to work in AdobeRGB in Photoshop. Has this to be changed to gain maximum color consistency?
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if it did not have an attached profile it is almost definitely in sRGB or, more rarely, Apple RGB. Lightroom always assumes sRGB for untagged files which is typically a safe bet. Photoshop generally uses the working space for untagged images. Since you had adobeRGB there, you should get a more saturated image in photoshop then in Lightroom. The same data is simply interpreted in a different color space leading to different colors. This has nothing to do with the monitor profile therefore and my initial hunch was wrong. So for untagged images in photoshop, you should usually assign sRGB to them instead of working space.
>As for calibration hardware we do use them here so I will use it but since the Mac was brand new out the box I assumed that it was ok...
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Your post has prompted me to investigate as I have recently come across the same issue.
I have a Canon 20d and have set it to use AdobeRGB colour space. I recently noticed that a JPEG image file appears as untagged in the metadata in Elements 5 Organiser but when in the editor it confirms it has the AdobeRGB space as the "Image/Convert Colour profile" instruction only offers to convert to sRGB or Remove Profile options. Furthermore the print dialogue confirms the presence of the AdobeRGB colour space. This has not been applied since importing from the camera as I have set the colour management option to "Let Me Choose" for this test.
The camera instruction book says if AdobeRGB is set in the camera the file name will start with an underscore: _MG which they do and that the ICC profile "is not appended" which may explain its absence in the metadata.
As you suggested, RAW files do not appear to carry a colour space regardless of the camera setting although the file name still starts with _MG so perhaps it does? but on conversion using Adobe ACR with Elements, it attaches the colour space to the resulting file depending on the colour management setting and will use Adobe RGB if I set it to Always optimise for printing.
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I am aware of issues when you try to print an image without taking into account the calibrated color profiles of both the printer and your monitor, but not when it comes to displaying 2 images on the same monitor.
To put it simple: I process an image in Lightroom. I get the desired result, create a JPG out of it.
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CSS Simon wrote:
You said: "I did click "Reset all default Develop settings" and reimported the JPG. Now it does look exactly the way the original RAW image looks."
So I assume you mean "why is the jpeg displayed in another program not the same as the raw (or the jpeg, for that matter) displayed in LR?". Either the other programs aren't colour managed, or the monitor isn't correctly calibrated and profiled? See Jao vdL's post.
Indeed. Now it makes sense. What totally confused me was when the JPG, reimported in LR, did not look the same as the RAW image. I thought that if LR was color managed, then both images should look the same.
After I clicked the "Reset all default Develop settings", the reimported JPG looks "correct". Not sure I fully understand what happened however
CSS Simon wrote: To your other post: Lightroom uses ProPhoto RGB as its working space during editing, so in Develop Module the image displayed is in that colour space. In Library Module, LR displays the previews which are stored in Adobe RGB, I believe. This is true whatever the colour space of the image. This is of no consequence to the user, as LR is colour managed, and whatever working space is used internally is mapped to the monitor colour space by using the monitor profile. Provided there is a correct monitor profile, that is.
Interesting. So if my monitor is not properly calibrated, it would be possible that the image in the library module could look different from the same image in the development module? Good to know
CSS Simon wrote:
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Not calibrated as of now. Will fix it soon now that it seems that it is the reason behind my problem
What you are saying is consistent with what I had read, and this is actually what confused me the most. Because I read that Firefox was color-managed, but the JPG looked the same in FF, IE, Irfanview and LR (JPG reimported before I clicked the "reset settings" button). So it looked to me like if color-managed (FF) and non-color managed (IE) software would display the JPG the same way, but yet my LR RAW image would look different. When Windows Image Viewer displayed the JPG the same way LR did for the RAW, this is where I got totally lost.

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I usually use sRGB because I produce for the web...but recently got images created in the Adobe RGB Color Space.
When I create Thumbnails and Enlarged Images in the HTML web gallery...are the images in the sRGB color Space by default possibly...Is there a way to manage this some way?
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Forgot about this question:
>but recently got images created in the Adobe RGB Color Space.
Lightroom correctly understands attached profiles. Just take it in and export to sRGB jpegs, or use the web tool, which brings me to:
>When I create Thumbnails and Enlarged Images in the HTML web gallery...are the images in the sRGB color Space by default possibly...Is there a way to manage this some way?
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I posted the following message to another thread, but at the recommendation of a member I am starting a new thread here. For a couple of answers see the thread below.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3298911#3298911
I will provide much more information hoping an Adobe support person will chime in. This is extremely odd.
System: HP, AMD, Windows 7 64-Bit, Nvidia 9100, all updates to Windows, latest Nvidia 9100 driver
Display: Samsung 226CW, Windows settings 32-bit color, correct resolution,
Calibration: Done with ColorMunki, D65 target, done after monitor has been on for more than 30 minutes
Personal: (I am adding this information with some hesitation, please excuse it if it sounds like I'm bragging; I am not). I have multiple posts on my blog, have made many presentations on color managed workflow and am very comfortable with the settings in Photoshop and Lightroom. Please take this only as a baseline information, I am not bragging. In fact, I am begging for information!
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3. Recalibrated the display
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I further tried the following:
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My deduction is that something on the problem system outlined in the opening of the message is interfering with the Adobe rendering engine and I have no idea what it could be. I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE if an Adobe engineer could chime in and steer me in the right direction. I am willing to try other things but I have run out of ideas despite the fact that I have reduced much of the problem to the lowest common denominator of sRGB and JPEG against a PSD in sRGB.
Waiting anxiously of your help.
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